Underground Knowledge — A discussion group discussion

In a series of articles first published in the early to mid-2000’s, dogged journalist Liam Scheff, who has been described by at least one mainstream US media outlet as a ‘HIV denialist’, claimed cruel AIDS experiments on children – usually orphans – were being conducted in New York’s Incarnation Children’s Center (ICC).

Scheff claimed his investigations revealed the children were being force-fed numerous drugs after allegedly testing positive to HIV/AIDS tests.

The allegations were vehemently denied by ICC staffers, and a subsequent New York State Department of Health investigation found none of the allegations could be substantiated. The department also indicated that the accusers appeared to subscribe to the unpopular theory that HIV does not cause AIDS.

One major media outlet pointed out that the allegations came from one person (Scheff) and weren’t backed up with real names or evidence of any kind.

When Scheff couldn’t get any traction for his allegations with mainstream media, he turned to online media to air his grievances.

Okay, so what does this have to do with experiments on orphans? Apparently...nothing at all. We mention it only to remind any readers who may consider themselves conspiracy theorists how important it is not to believe every conspiracy theory out there.

By the same token, if you’ve picked up anything from the other posts in this group, you’d have to agree only a fool would automatically accept as gospel everything officialdom tells us.


"Nine went on to explain the notes he’d recovered from the journalist left no doubt Omega was manufacturing a new breed of genetically-superior orphans. Kentbridge’s mind was racing as Nine brought him up to speed. The program had obviously changed out of sight since The Pedemont Project. Why wasn’t I told? Now, it appeared, the emphasis was on radical medical experimentation." –The Ninth Orphan


Liam Scheff’s apparently fictional allegations are eerily reminiscent of some of our fictional musings in The Orphan Trilogy – in particular in books one and three, The Ninth Orphan and The Orphan Uprising – in which the ninth-born orphan visits clandestine orphanages and medical labs on three continents.

And besides all the true accounts of orphan experimentation covered in this chapter, what if there are more advanced, secretive experiments on orphans and children generally that we never hear of?

Again we ask, where does the fiction end and the truth begin?

Official Stories by Liam Scheff

We should accept everything, and deny nothing. Only when we can embrace climate change AND climate denial will we be able to understand the paradox we call life. Thorazine works too.

The Hospital: How I survived the secret child experiments at Aston Hall