Goodreads Librarians Group discussion

All books listed on James Matthew Barrie need:

J.M. Barrie as Primary Author on ALL records
James Matthew Barrie as second author where that form is on the cover.

Unfortunately for us, J.M. doesn't contain James Matthew, and the author used his initials.

EDIT: There are also a lot of combines needed, but they will most likely time out. Don't panic!

Edith Nesbit

E. Nesbit as Primary Author
Edith Nesbit as second author where that form is on the cover.

Also appears as:
James M. Barrie
J M Barrie Barrie
BARRIE J.M. (author)
Barrie J M (James Matthew)
Barrie J. M.
Barrie J.M.
Barrie J.M. Hollindale

Names in #3 merged.

Scott wrote: "Names in #3 merged."

Thanks. Should make easier for whomever tackles #1.

Ok, I started to tackle #1, and on the very first book got the primary author changed, but now it won't let me add James Matthew Barrie as a secondary author. Can someone please explain what I did wrong?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

Samantha (AK) wrote: "Ok, I started to tackle #1, and on the very first book got the primary author changed, but now it won't let me add James Matthew Barrie as a secondary author. Can someone please explain what I did ..."

It looks at the last name, which the system thinks could be a duplicate entry so ignores it. Enter just the first name and then you can go back in and edit.

Different author but note E Nesbit when fixing #2.

Also e nesbitt empty.

Samantha (AK) wrote: "Ok, I started to tackle #1, and on the very first book got the primary author changed, but now it won't let me add James Matthew Barrie as a secondary author. Can someone please explain what I did ..."

Apologies, I should have said you will need workarounds. I suggest personally putting the whole name in without spaces. Its easier then to remember what you planned to put in :)

Liz V. wrote: "Different author but note E Nesbit when fixing #2.

Also e nesbitt empty."

Merged.

#2 done

Emy wrote: "I suggest personally putting the whole name in without spaces. Its easier then to remember what you planned to put in :) "

Indeed.
And the author profile without space can just be merged into the profile with the space once all titles are corrected.

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "It looks at the last name, which the system thinks could be a duplicate entry so ignores it. Enter just the first name and then you can go back in and edit."

Emy wrote: "Apologies, I should have said you will need workarounds. I suggest personally putting the whole name in without spaces. Its easier then to remember what you planned to put in :) "

Learn something new every day! Thank you

Arenda wrote: "Indeed.
And the author profile without space can just be merged into the profile with the space once all titles are corrected."

Well, it's not letting me add spaces so that might have to happen...

Scott wrote: "Liz V. wrote: "Different author but note E Nesbit when fixing #2.

Also e nesbitt empty."

Merged."

I was trying to caution not to merge E Nesbit, author of Vietnam War inadvertently. Sorry didn't make clear. Separate author with two spaces?

Arenda wrote: "And the author profile without space can just be merged into the profile with the space once all titles are corrected. ."

I had not thought of this. Of course, it *used* to be that the script would delete empty profiles so thinking of future merging wasn't necessary. (I wonder when they'll get that fixed?)

Got about half of #1, although a number now have "JamesMatthewBarrie" as a workaround secondary author until that can be merged into the spaced name or edited back into such... I'll stop in again later if no one else picks this up.

Liz V. wrote: "I was trying to caution not to merge E Nesbit, author of Vietnam War inadvertently. Sorry didn't make clear. Separate author with two spaces?"

Sorry, I was running on autopilot. I separated it again and tried to find the real author. Unfortunately Amazon and every other site have the same blurry scan, but I did find it credited to a Katie Daynes on one, and it looks like it might say that on the blurry image. I leave it at that for now; it's definitely not Nesbit.

Edit: Found another edition with a clearer scan on here that was not combined with the one above, and Daynes is correct. Who knows how Nesbit got in there?

RE: My note in #17
I'm still making headway on #1, and I finally found a workaround that doesn't use "JamesMatthewBarrie." The unspaced name has been merged back into the spaced author and is no longer an issue.

On a related note, there are a lot of Peter Pan editions, many of which are adaptations. I'm noting the obvious ones as I go through (Children's adaptations are easy to spot), but I'm not familiar enough with the main work to be comfortable combining any of them.

New one for Russian / Cyrillic users
(I will do this one if I get time)

Джордж Гордон Байрон is Lord Byron

In addition to setting Primary Author to Lord Byron, they possibly also need covers checking for the version used.

Ok, now James Matthew Barrie is done. I'll start chipping away at the other J.M. Barrie pseuds listed in #3...

Juan de la Cruz - Default Profile

These profiles need all works on them setting with Juan de la Cruz as Primary and then the cover version as Second.

1. St. John of the Cross
2. Jean de la Croix
3. São João da Cruz
4. Giovanni della Croce

Whilst editing, keep an eye open for works by authors whose names CONTAIN Juan de la Cruz, but are different people, e.g. Juan C. de la Cruz

Regarding Juan de la Cruz did the policy change or do all just take on these projects without consulting the manual?

This does not follow the Manual as currently written! I was seeking to add a new version of The Dark Night of the soul and found them listed under several names Juan de la Cruz being the most "popular". I asked about it in this thread.

the manuel says.

Authors with books published in multiple languages should have their names dealt with similarly to those with pen names. All editions should have the primary author name as the standard or most common Roman (that is, English-language) version of the author's name.

This says John of the Cross should be primary author.

I guess it is another project if anyone is willing...

Mikey wrote: "Regarding Juan de la Cruz did the policy change or do all just take on these projects without consulting the manual?

This does not follow the Manual! I was seeking to add a new ve..."

Also, the Portuguese version São João da Cruz is wrong. It should be just João da Cruz (we do not add versions of Saint to the name, at least when it is a title and not part of people's actual name).

lethe wrote: "Also, the Portuguese version São João da Cruz is wrong. It should be just João da Cruz (we do not add versions of Saint to the name, at least when it is a title and not part of people's actual name)...."

I standardized the Portuguese version of the authors name according to current policy João da Cruz

*added John of the Cross to these titles as [primary.]

I standardized the Lithuanian version of the "name" Šv. Kryžiaus Jonas as Kryžiaus Jonas simply removing Šv. (St.)
Croatian Ivan od Križa removed Sveti
German Johannes vom Kreuz
Polish Jan od Krzyża

That post dates from January 2019, and I can honestly say I've not checked back at it since.

Emy wrote: "That post dates from January 2019, and I can honestly say I've not checked back at it since."

In my original post on this thread I included the date so as to show that it has been 21 months since this request. I used the reply feature and it automatically included the 'Emy wrote..."

Someone thought I was attacking you so I edited the post. I don't know if you felt I was attacking you but I meant no disrespect. I was merely pointing out the confusion as to the policy.