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Group Reads archive > Final Impressions: Suttree, by Cormac McCarthy August 2019

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message 1: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tom Mathews | 3418 comments Mod
Comments on this board are made with the assumption that readers have finished the book and may include spoilers.


message 2: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
Here's my review from a couple of years ago. No spoilers, and I haven't changed my mind about anything.
Here is a review by Diane: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


Sara (phantomswife) | 1495 comments And my review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Not an easy book to review. It is full of unsavory subjects and scenes, and in some other contexts those would have been enough to send me scuttering, but they are so much a part of what McCarthy is addressing, that they never have that effect. We really know little of Suttree's background, and much of what we know of him is unpleasant, and yet he manages to be someone we feel we know and understand by the end of the book. I think McCarthy is a genius and will be seen as an important writer a century from now.


message 4: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
McCarthy's genius lies in his ability to write about ugliness and evil in such a beautiful way. Suttree saw the life of a water rat as a truer way of life for him than the one he emerged from. And I think McCarthy saw it that way in order to make those passages you shared show it to his readers.


Sara (phantomswife) | 1495 comments That is exactly it, Diane. We somehow sense, even if we are not given the details, that Suttree is living a better life on the river and one that is true to the man that he is and that he is in some way superior to those he left behind, although they of course would not think so. If McCarthy were not able to convey the beauty underneath the squalor and use the language so deftly, you would have a completely different book and one that might be just too hard to take.


Judi | 473 comments I am slowly climbing Mount Suttree and it's August 30th. What a climb, but I am lovin' it. Every step! Five Stars!


Sara (phantomswife) | 1495 comments I understand what you mean about the climb, Judi, but the view from the top of the mountain is spectacular. :)


message 8: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
No rules here about how long it takes to finish or a deadline to make. It takes what it takes. Suttree himself would scoff at deadlines.


Judi | 473 comments The climb of Mount Suttree will continue!


message 10: by Judi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Judi | 473 comments I am finished! This is one of my favorite "climbs", "reads" of all time! I would give it six stars were that an option. The Mount Everest of books. Cormac McCarthy is a beyond gifted writer. My final thought on Suttree is "Life Sucks And Then You Die." I will follow with a formal review soon.


message 11: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
Yea, Judy! Good quote, but great books make life less sucky.


message 12: by Judi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Judi | 473 comments Diane wrote: "Yea, Judy! Good quote, but great books make life less sucky."

Indeed. Or, you find a voice that you can relate to.


message 13: by Sara (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sara (phantomswife) | 1495 comments Ah, Judi, I knew you would like the view from the top. I'll be watching for your review.


message 14: by Lawyer, "Moderator Emeritus" (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lawyer (goodreadscommm_sullivan) | 2668 comments Mod
Congrats to reaching the summit, Judi! Here's my review from back in 2012. https://www.goodreads.com/review/list... .

I hope to see us tackle more Cormac McCarthy.


message 15: by Judi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Judi | 473 comments Lawyer wrote: "Congrats to reaching the summit, Judi! Here's my review from back in 2012. https://www.goodreads.com/review/list... .

I hope to see us tackle more [aut..."


Me too!


message 16: by Judi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Judi | 473 comments Submitted Formal Review.


message 17: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John | 550 comments Well Judi. Sucking and Dying. I'll let you know in a few years unless someone beats me to it.

I've kinda had my fill of his dark side so I didn't reread Suttree. Blood Meridian left me wondering what kind of sick f### could write that.

Now.
I thoroughly enjoyed
Cities of the Plains. A terrific story. Not too much pontificating, lots of dialog and character development. Violence at the right moment and not overdone. A look into a cowboy's life in the SW. I enjoyed it.

Not so thrilled w The Crossing. A good first section w the wolf but then it bogs down in section 2 where I am stuck now.

On this cricket filled night you brought me a chuckle Judi.


message 18: by Judi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Judi | 473 comments I hear you John. Thanks for your comment. I too am circling the drain.


message 19: by Judi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Judi | 473 comments Darkly


message 20: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
John and Judi, you both gave me my morning laugh.


message 21: by Sara (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sara (phantomswife) | 1495 comments I'm laughing too. I can go to the dark side only so often, so I have to space these reads.

I agree completely with your thoughts on Cities of the Plains, John.


message 22: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John | 550 comments Diane and Sara. Holy Smokes, are you early risers, or is 4:30 and 5:00 AM my receive your post time rather than your send time.
It's always nice to see you. I have so many books I want to talk about but I can't seem to find the keyboard time.

Yours to the last page.
Jt


message 23: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
I never get up til at least 6:30 every morning, read the paper, drink coffee, then go on GR. So it must be your receiving time you see. But I think the same thing when I see posts from very early. I think there are a lot of insomniacs among us.


message 24: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
John, I'm stealing your sign off... "Yours til the last page". I love that.


message 25: by Sara (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sara (phantomswife) | 1495 comments My husband had a very bad night and I was up with him, so it was an unusually early morning for me. My post says 5:04, which seems impossibly early though. Most days you wouldn't find me up at 5:00 and I'd think Diane would have noticed if she was up at 4:20, which is the stamp on hers. Very strange indeed.

I like the sign-off as well, John. You should use it on all your posts!


Zorro (zorrom) | 205 comments John wrote: "I've kinda had my fill of his dark side so I didn't reread Suttree. Blood Meridian left me wondering ..."

I wondered the same after reading his Tennessee novels and then Blood Meridian, John. No Country for Old Men was my favorite, I guess because it took place in my part of Texas -- Val Verde County, Del Rio, Eagle Pass. Loved the movie too.

I have read all the CM novels, stories, but not all the screen plays. I need to find those to round it all up.


message 27: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John | 550 comments You gurls. Too funny
OK Diane we can share. Every time I see it I'll feel good.
I'll have to write it down so I don't forget.
Now JUDI you must come up w a good one! I feel like you started this whole thing.

Yours till the last page
Jt

Now i gotta find an alter ego. those are reserved for moderators. As it should be.

Oh, Cities of the Plains has started to pick up. Billy has come home. He and Boyd are on the trail again, headed for Casa Grande, which is four hours away from me. Wolves, dead cattle, horse thieves, sleeping in the cold, adobe houses melting into the dirt from which they came.
I may start reading some Zane Grey. His cabin burned down in The Dude Fire 1990.
( dang, I don't know how to stick a picture in. I'll have to ask Mike)

Yours
Jt


message 28: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John | 550 comments Alrighty then, I'll consider my alter ego to be Billy Parham. This will be our little secret because I won't sign off this way. I choose him because Now is the time. Additionally; I wish I was a cowboy riding the range as a younger man. They are the epitome of rugged individualism. live and die by your own wits. Don't get me wrong. City Wits are just as demanding. Just a different skill set. Physically demanding occupation. Logically inclined yet intuitive enough in understanding a horse, his primary partner. Out here in Trump Country I don't follow their creed but leave me alone and we'll be fine. I'm a progressive redneck. I liked Obama.

I wax poetic. I must be lonesome
jt


message 29: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new) - rated it 4 stars

Diane Barnes | 5597 comments Mod
John, I'm reading one now you might like. Sweet Promised Land, by Robert Laxalt. A memoir about an immigrant from the Pyrenees around the turn of the last century. He is a sheepherder in Nevada, and goes back to Basque Country for a visit after 47 years, accompanied by his son. A different kind of cowboy.
Yours til the last page!


message 30: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John | 550 comments be still my heart


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