Opposition discussion

THIS DISCUSSION WILL HAVE SPOILERS

here you can discuss anything you want to about the lux series.

my goodness so many things to talk about how shall I start.... hmmm how about did any one hate blake from the beginning cause I did, I never trusted him. then he through the knife at her and I was like wtf r u mental! then when he put her with the arum I was like... okay u r mental. and u have a death wish cause if daemon found out about this you are going to die. then when he killed adam I was like that's right bitch you better run! but then when he came back I was like WHAT THE HOLY HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!!! right then I deemed him as a walking corps. and then when he slept in katy's bed all I could think was " PERV ALERT! PERV ALERT! PERV ALERT!" how about you all?

oh and when he died I had only one thought in my mind : hallelujah!!!

I was pissed to when he came back, they should have never trusted him, and I get why they did but still. Abigail, just saying your comments crack me up. PERV ALER PERV ALERT,*laughs and shakes head*

I try, I try.

anyway, I really would have liked to have seen katy tell daemon about him sleeping in her bed. he would have full out luxened his ass, daemon style. and blake would have been gone forever and the world would be peacefull. cause if you think about it if blake hadn't off been a traitorous coward then katy wouldn't have been caught and then all of the main characters wouldn't have had to do that stuff in vagas then the luxen might not have came and katy's mom, Andrew, ash, and adam all wouldn't be dead. now that I think about it all of the deaths would not have happened if blake had had a stroke or gotten a blood clot or died in a car accident.

I know, daemon's reaction would have been priceless, for him to know blake was sleeping in Katy's bed.

a lot of people don't find Daemon that appealing in Obsidian and I can see why, but he hooked me in as soon as he opened his mouth and Katy said he had abs. Those people who give up after the first book because of Daemon just need to give him a chance wait for the second book. what do you think?

Yeah, Daemon in the first book really did scare a lot of people away and I really hated Blake. There was actually something else that really upset me throughout the series. Everyone was always blaming Katy and Beth for everything and I just don't think that's fair cause if it's anyone's fault it was Daemon, Dawson, and Dee. They were the ones who knew not to get involved, but they did anyway and they were the ones with the powers and who attracted the Arum. Also, they always acted like they were the only ones in danger, but the humans were in danger too and it was kinda their fault. Don't get me wrong, cause like you guys said, it was Blake who caused all the problems. I also agree about wanting to see Daemon's reaction to Blake sleeping in Katy's bed. If only she had told him.

i know, if only...

in a way they are to blame, but you know I don't hold grudges, and I'm happy that they all got involved, because if not none of this would have happened. like Katy said this whole chain of events started with Dawson and Beth and ends with Katy and Daemon.

btw did anyone cry or tear up when the series ended? or did anyone have a book hangover, I need to know I'm not the only one.

I loved daemon the second that the mom said he was a hottie. yes it was a wee bit early but I had a really good feeling about him and loved him immediately!

I teared up... cryed... okay maybe I bawled a tinnie bit. and I was sulking for like a whole week. (I really wanted a lunchable with capri sun and oreos! but I could only find them with the stupid kit kat bar and no juice. it really pissed me off)

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "I teared up... cryed... okay maybe I bawled a tinnie bit. and I was sulking for like a whole week. (I really wanted a lunchable with capri sun and oreos! but I could only find them with the stupid ..."


think those lunchables are impossible to find:(

I could not read another book, because the series ended. I teared up and when the realization that the series was over over,hit me I started crying and ....it was not a pretty site.

did you guys think that kat's mom being turned was kind of obvious?

it was, like, u r going into a town infested w/ luxen and u didn't even fear ur mom was gone? but it was still really sad):

my mascara was running down my face, and i couldn't get it off! i looked like a fricken raccoon!

i luv all of J.L.A books! they r all so funny!

my BFF(book friend forever) is going 2 a signing 4 J.L.A. SSSSSSSOOOOOOOO NNOOOOOTTTT FFAAIIIRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

i am making her bring my copies 2 get them signed also. but i really would like to meet her.

So I TOTALLY agree with everything said above! Blake, her mom, Daemon! When the series ended I did cry and I was depressed about it(I've probably reread them 1,000 times already! I'm just not ready to let go!) Did anyone else start to freak out when Daemon got shot? Because I was having a heart attack! All I could think was "this can not end up like Allegiant! THIS CANNOT END UP LIKE ALLEGIANT!!!!!" plus there was a lot of crying before I read that he was okay. Also did anyone cry for Ash and Andrew? I hated them in the beginning but when they died I realized that I did end up liking them at some point, maybe around when Ash help Dee when she lost Adam and Andrew well... I felt bad for him about losing his brother. Did anyone else feel the same about any of this?

I totally agree with all of what u said! I bawled until ( I may have skipped to the next chapter) I read that he was okay. and I was really sad when ash and Andrew died. not as sad as I was for adam but still really sad.

my friend read this before me and she said luc dies and I swear to god I slapped her I was like " bitch u did not just say that" ( in my head of course) but the reason I didn't have the book before her is that my parents didn't have the time to drive me. so I jumped on my bike and biked the 20 km to the store and bake to buy it. yes I was that desperate and then I read it and wouldn't talk to her for days, I was supremely pissed off. she made me worry so much i could've cryed( but I didn't) luc is my second favorite character in the whole book!

1. daemon( duh)
2. luc
3. katy
4. lesa and Carissa<- poor Carissa!
5. dawson& beth

I really didn't like dee in the end. she really scared me!

Bailey wrote: "So I TOTALLY agree with everything said above! Blake, her mom, Daemon! When the series ended I did cry and I was depressed about it(I've probably reread them 1,000 times already! I'm just not ready..."

i was thinking the same thing,THIS CANNOT END LIKE ALLEGIANT! Daemon getting shot scared me so much,i hd to close the book,nd i was in tears.

i totally agree with you about the whole ash and Andrew,thing. i didn't realize i liked them until they died.

how did everyone feel about Lotho?

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "I totally agree with all of what u said! I bawled until ( I may have skipped to the next chapter) I read that he was okay. and I was really sad when ash and Andrew died. not as sad as I was for ada..."

dee was different to me,i guess it was because of the luxen "invading" her mind,but she wasn't the same innocent girl she once was to me

i was pissed when i didn't get my book with in the first 2 weeks it came out. i had to wait until the beginning of September. i was kind of mad at my self because i finished it in 1 day,i kept telling myself take it slow this's the last book,but like all JLA books they go by super quick

OMG Ruthanne I totally had your problem. I was on vacation in Mexico and wouldn't be home until 3 days after it came out! I (sadly) finished it in one day as well. I tend to do that with a lot of the final books in series. I get sooo torn, one half of me is like "read, keep reading, must find out what happens and how it ends!" while the other half is like "take it slow, Bailey. Cherish the awesome book in your hands, because once you finish you'll realize that there won't be anymore books and all you'll be able to think is that it's over and start to bawl your eyes out. plus you'll have a bad book hangover for weeks". And my thoughts on Lotho? Well... Don't hate me for saying this. But I kinda enjoyed his character (though I don't like any other Arum except for Hunter and them). I mostly liked him because...

1. He totally gets the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and he knew that he had to help the good Luxen out which in my book anyone who helps out Daemon and Katy is awesome.

2. He did save Katy at the end of the book, so have to like him for that.

3. His sense of humor!


Thoughts on Nancy and/or Archer and Dee being together anyone?

Don't worry I like lotho to, i found him weird in a good way.

dee isn't the same to me. I have an edge whenever I read a scene shes in. she kind of scares me. Ever since she was like "if you don't hurry up I'm going to throw you down the stairs." like WTF?

but archer. I love him,not as much as daemon but close second or third.

as of the prospect of him and dee together I like it?
if dee goes all murder-happy on him, archer can handle her without killing her, so I guess that's a good thing...

nancy I don't know she was an interesting character. I always thought that maybe she would change her ways but she didn't. did the thought not occur to her that maybe what she's doing is wrong,like "making" origins,and taking them away from there parents,and then breeding them in a factory isn't wrong.
then she tries to kill daemon and I'm like what the hell?!?!

Was anyone else dissatisfied with Blake's death? I know that makes me sound morbid, but this guy bugged the crap out of me this entire series, and I really feel cheated out of a death (yes, Katy got to kill him that was cool), but I mean he pretty much caused every single problem that happened after the first book, I think he should get SOMETHING bad. At least from Daemon, that I was looking forward to (again, that makes me sound totally morbid, but it's how I feel).
Plus...Katy really aggravated me with the whole BLake situation, did any one else think this? OK, first he throws a knife at you, and h you shake it off and defend his actions. Then he pretty much leaves you to possibly die in a group of aroms, you shrug it off, no big deal. THen a whole lot of other crap, including catching him in making someone disappear, kills your best friend's boyfriend and nearly kidnaps you to god knows where, and you let him run off into the sunset. THEN he comes back and "blackmails" (come on Katy, they already knew about you he had little on you) you into doing something and you let him and trust him again.
...
Really Katy? Really?

The first thing that bothered me in this series was Dee. Don't get me wrong, I adored the writing style, plot, and everything else except for Dee. I loved her in the first book, but by the second she started getting on my nerves. Don't you agree?

Lujain wrote: "The first thing that bothered me in this series was Dee. Don't get me wrong, I adored the writing style, plot, and everything else except for Dee. I loved her in the first book, but by the second s..."

dee started to tick me off the third book and the end of the second, she wasn't putting thing's into perspective. she wasn't in katy's position. she should have understood. what if daemon had died because of dee, and katy treated her the way she did when adam died, gave HER the cold shoulder.

i was just glad that blake died. i do wish he had his back cut open and i really wished that there was a daemon blake face off but u know hes dead and that made me really happy. (:

did any one have trouble starting to read it?? i got it a few days after it came out but i couldn't read it i just looked at it for like 4 dats until i finally opened it and read it in under 7 hours.

i swear that was probably the fastest i have ever read a book. it was kinda crazy. but after i finishe i couldn't read another book until the end of September.

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "i was just glad that blake died. i do wish he had his back cut open and i really wished that there was a daemon blake face off but u know hes dead and that made me really happy. (:

did any one hav..."

SAME, it was so bad,everytime I wanted to read another book,i was always just like,hmmm... I feel like reading opposition. I miss the series SOOOO much. I'm happy though with the way it ended,it. I don't want anyone to touch it. everything was resolved,and it was just perfection.

how did everyone feel at the end of opal?

It was so obvious when she first mentioned how Daemon had been coming late at night that it was that perv Blake. But I kind of wanted Daemon to kill him. And I still cried my eyes out when Katy killed him, because it was like you poor unsuspecting son of a biscuit you really thought she wouldn't kill you? And then I cried for her. YOU ARE A MURDERER! BUT IT WAS SORT OF SELF DEFENSE! Right?

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "my goodness so many things to talk about how shall I start.... hmmm how about did any one hate blake from the beginning cause I did, I never trusted him. then he through the knife at her and I was ..." I know right as soon as she said that a certain scent remained on her bed and that he only came when she was sleeping I was like that is so blake. That is just so messed up. I hated him in the first place. Infact I don't even like his name. I wanted daemon to kill him, But I still cried when he died because it was like you poor unsuspecting son of a biscuit you really didn't think she would kill you?

Ruthanne wrote: "I was pissed to when he came back, they should have never trusted him, and I get why they did but still. Abigail, just saying your comments crack me up. PERV ALER PERV ALERT,*laughs and shakes head*" Me To that would have been good.

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "I try, I try.

anyway, I really would have liked to have seen katy tell daemon about him sleeping in her bed. he would have full out luxened his ass, daemon style. and blake would have been gone fo..."
But Dee would never meet Archer!

And what about Dawson?

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "I try, I try.

anyway, I really would have liked to have seen katy tell daemon about him sleeping in her bed. he would have full out luxened his ass, daemon style. and blake would have been gone fo..."
I think your right because as the series progresses we learn more about daemon. And I was kind of happy with the change of character for the male lead. because I liked daemon way better than Aiden. Aiden was just to good. sometimes it's better to have a dark side. Seriously I loved the characters from the lux series so much that I was afraid of reading any other books because I knew that no other book would be able to feel that empty place in my heart where the lux series had once occupied. this always happens after reading a good series or book i'm in a rush and I finish it in a week tops and then I mourn the book (cry myself to sleep like a baby) and regret reading it so fast. And then I get hooked on the author.




Same here after reading a book it's like I am mourning over a lost life. It's kind of like burying an important part of me.

I have to agree with Shannon, If anything it was Dee's fault I mean she was just so needy and was always like "You don't want to be my friend" but at least daemon actually attempted to keep them away. And Dawson and Daemon were the ones who healed them. Ash and Andrew were just jerks because seriously Dawson is supposedly "dead" because he chose love over his people that is not Katy or Beth's fault. It's Dee's fault for going all I'm friendless. And Dawson and daemon made the final decision that brought this all down. And how about the origin they would still be suppressed if it hadn't been for Blake everyone would still think Beth and Dawson were dead if it wasn't for Blake. You can't just delete Blake from the equation.

I finished the whole lux series in a weekend tops and that was with my homework. so yeah, the series was pretty great.

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "my goodness so many things to talk about how shall I start.... hmmm how about did any one hate blake from the beginning cause I did, I never trusted him. then he through the knife at her and I was ..."

I agree with you although at first I kind of liked Blake but when he though the knife at Katy I was like YOU Jerk (thinking of meaner words$$$$) I will kill you!

Ruthanne wrote: "Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "i was just glad that blake died. i do wish he had his back cut open and i really wished that there was a daemon b..."

OMFG. I have a lot to say about the end of opal. lets start things of with " blake you fucking son of a bitch" oh and then " fuck you blake" and finally " I am going to fucking kill you blake" so ya.

when I read the last chapter in daemons POV I bawled my eyes out like an emotional baby on crack. I was so heartbroken it hurt my chest. and then when he is like" I love you katy. always have. always will. I will come back for you. I will-" ya I kinda sorta screamed. then when he was like " shes gone, kats gone" I kinda sorta screamed again.

Yeah what I loved most about Katy was that she didn't just forgive and forget just because Daemon kissed her and was hot(unlike some people who are all like "Oh he kissed me it explains it all. I will just totally forget about how he treated me like crap because he's SOOOOO HOT and he kissed me!!! ) No Daemon had to prove that he really wanted to be with her because he really believed that she would make his life all the better. Make him a better him. That he needed to be with her because of what's on the inside. Because how she makes feel (Mentally not physically. okay well that to I guess) How she makes him laugh when he's sad and sets him straight when he's being a jerk, not because of lust looks or some stupid connection but because she completes him. She made Daemon prove that she just wasn't going to be some fling or one night stand before she gave him her heart completely. Because she knew she felt something and if he didn't feel the same then she'd end up with a broken heart.


And hearts can't be bandaged or given medicine. Because when your heart breaks it has to heal and in some cases that can take forever. No Matter The Amount Of Glue. (Sorry I'm crying )

I know Ash died saving Beth and her babies and all. But I wished that she would have lived. Because I felt like Jennifer L. Armentrout gave her a martyr's death. And please excuse me for talking ill of the deceased but that girl was a bitch to every one who wasn't Luxen especially Katy Like seriously. Although she did get better throughout the series. I actually would have preferred her and Katy becoming close. And Andrew was a total bitch to her. Only he didn't really have that big of a heroic death did he? And I sorta kinda thought that maybe just maybe Ash felt like she had nothing left to live for I mean Adam got killed and then Andrew. Katy has Daemon so she would sorta kinda be all aloe unless she was up for just being with Daemon, Dee, and Dawson.

Em wrote: "Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "my goodness so many things to talk about how shall I start.... hmmm how about did any one hate blake from the beg..."
It was pretty obvious to me that blake was evil from the begining. He was mostly there just to set off the unfortunate chain of events. And to piss Daemon off by making him jealous.

Did anyone else think that in this book that Dee was a real bitch? I mean when she was fighting Katy I was hoping Katy would say fudge it and stab her. It's wrong to want her to be stabbed but I would have stabbed her like twice once she came to her senses, one for annoying me with apologies and another because I felt she needed it for the bitch she was during that time. I didn't expect Dee to be that horrible.