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message 1: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 12 comments Who here thinks that you are getting reliable facts from fox noise?

Much of the confusion about the health care bill has to do with misinformation and a lot of fear.

It seams to me that republicans trust only certain people to tell them the truth and every one else must be lying.

A perfect example: the debate about Obama encouraging kids to study turns into a brainwashing speech as far as fox is concerned. Seams that they keep yelling "we don't trust him!"

This seams to be why people are more then happy to believe that the health care bill is going to pull the plug on old people and force gender reassignment.

And then you have Palin and Grasley still repeating the death panel lie. Isn't Grasley in the big six? He obviously doesn't want to work with the dems on this.

It is so frustrating seeing good little republicans mindlessly repeating lies.


Here's a fact: 33% of life-saving claims are denied by the insurance companies. Seams like the real death panel are the private insurance companies. They have all the power. Obama is just trying to give people an different option that isn't about profit.


message 2: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 12 comments I like you Nathan, I don't care what they say. :)


message 3: by Liz (new)

Liz (lizgore) | 3163 comments I hate fox news. Whenever I watch them my blood pressure probably rises to dangerous levels./


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 222 comments Nathan wrote: "It should make everyone think twice when any organization promotes itself as 'Fair and Balanced'"

I agree with you about that, but for a different reason. I think that it's almost impossible to have unbiased news. New stations shouldn't even try to claim that they are unbiased.



message 5: by David (new)

David (primemover) Its obvious that all news is biased to a degree. And thats fine, republicans watch republican news, and democrats watch democratic news. But their is a difference between controversial, and WRONG. Saying that President Obama sucks at his job is controversial, and its an opinion. Saying that he was born in Somalia, is WRONG. It's simply not true. And thats the difference between opinions, and fear-mongering.


message 6: by Liz (new)

Liz (lizgore) | 3163 comments or death panels


message 7: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 12 comments What do you all think about Obama's address tonight? I had a few more tears for Ted, but I thought it was a good overall message. I'm feeling more hopeful.


message 8: by Davis (new)

Davis (davismattek) | 3837 comments " And thats fine, republicans watch republican news, and democrats watch democratic news"

I actually think that is super false.


message 9: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
It creates ignorance.


message 10: by Liz (new)

Liz (lizgore) | 3163 comments Nicole wrote: "What do you all think about Obama's address tonight? I had a few more tears for Ted, but I thought it was a good overall message. I'm feeling more hopeful."

I also got a little teary eyed when Obama mentioned that the letter be sent when he died.


message 11: by jessi (new)

jessi (infinitevantage) | 437 comments Davis wrote: "" And thats fine, republicans watch republican news, and democrats watch democratic news"

I actually think that is super false."


Studies have shown that most people read/watch/listen to news/information that reinforces the beliefs they already hold.


message 12: by Dan (new)

Dan It isn't just Fox News, though, and that's the really distressing part. CNN is sometimes just as biased. For example, they are still lending credibility to this stupid story about Obama being born outside of the country. News organizations seem reluctant to actually present facts and only offer microphones to outside opinionators. Their concept of balanced journalism means you report what person A is saying, and you report what person B is saying, but you don't report any of the relevant facts. So a story on Obama's birth goes, "Some people say that Obama was not born in America; others say that he was." For some reason, many news outlets don't think it's their place to say, "But some of these people are demonstrably wrong."


message 13: by David (new)

David (primemover) CNN is just as biased, but they tell things with a slant, not complete and utter lies. Like SOME news stations...


message 14: by Dan (new)

Dan I guess the tragedy is that Fox News is so biased that anything else seems reasonable by comparison, and it completely skews the debate in this country. Anything left of Fox is considered "liberal," when what we really have in this country is the far right and the less right.


message 15: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 7365 comments Mod
"Studies have shown that most people read/watch/listen to news/information that reinforces the beliefs they already hold. "

The premise of why they do that is bad, however.


message 16: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 12 comments I actually do watch both sides, fox and msnbc.


message 17: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Fox news gives me stomach aches.


message 18: by Liz (new)

Liz (lizgore) | 3163 comments Fox news just plain sucks.


message 19: by Riley (new)

Riley (booksarecool) Fox news is news on fox.


message 20: by Riley (new)

Riley (booksarecool) (OMG that was sooo deep!)


message 21: by The New Maria (new)

The New Maria (emeraldmaria) | 1950 comments SFGMsbf kfszaln szaFGZ bs'znskjn What Riley?

I'm glad that no one has hated on MSNBC yet, because that station is obviously liberal. But unlike Fox, they can admit their faults and do not yell out lies of the opposite party.

Watching Fox news makes me think that they don't really have anything good to say about themselves or anything letigley (sp?) bad to say about the democratic party. It's like the Palin of news. It's just so unbelievably stupid.


message 22: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 20 comments I just like to watch a little of both msnbc and fox but we usually just end of watching cnn.


message 23: by Riley (new)

Riley (booksarecool) 'It's like the Palin of news'

Hee hee.


message 24: by Chandani (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 6408 comments Both news channels are biased, but as Muskesh said, CNN subtly favors liberals, whereas FOX blantantly lies and bashes the opposing party.


message 25: by Dan (new)

Dan CNN subtly favors liberals, whereas FOX blantantly lies and bashes the opposing party.

I don't really think that CNN favors liberals. MSNBC, maybe, but CNN is often pretty conservative, in my experience. CNN has recently been lending credibility (still!) to these stupid "birthers." When Michael Moore's Sicko came out, CNN aired a hatchet job segment that was blatantly dishonest in its attempts to discredit the film. During the 2004 Democratic debates, Larry King called accused Dennis Kucinich of being a socialist for favoring single-payer health care. CNN only seems liberal when you compare it to Fox News. When compared to common sense, it's pretty conservative; it's just conservative more in the pro-corporate, Daddy-wants-to-get-paid sense, whereas Fox News is conservative in the get-your-homo-hippie-hands-off-my-bible sense.


message 26: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 12 comments Did you guys hear about the full page ad fox took out in major newspapers claiming that only fox covered the 9/12 protests?

Cnn had a commercial to say the oposite, that they had reported it. Msnbc reported it too, they just reported the good stuff, like the "Billionaires for Wealthcare" hilarity.

Fox just doesn't report facts, they report rumors and gossip and lies.

Isn't Lou Dobs the one on cnn that is a Birther? Wishful thinking?


message 27: by jessi (new)

jessi (infinitevantage) | 437 comments Nicole wrote: "Isn't Lou Dobs the one on cnn that is a Birther? Wishful thinking? "

I don't really know. I don't watch Lou Dobbs. He is pretty crazy, so not much would surprise me.


message 28: by David (new)

David (primemover) At least CNN doesn't have it's anchors scream.


message 29: by Diana (last edited Dec 01, 2009 03:04PM) (new)

Diana Nathan wrote: "Fox News is an evil little station. It should make everyone think twice when any organization promotes itself as "Fair and Balanced." If you were, would you really have to say it? It's like anno..."
Hello? Fox News isn't an evil station. MSNBC is! Their reporters drive me crazy. Look at CNN. Lou Dobbs reported on fake headlines and one of their reporters rudely interrupped and walked away from a man stating his views. The only channels I ever watch are HLN and Fox.




message 30: by Diana (new)

Diana Nathan wrote: "The only channels I ever watch are HLN and Fox.

And you're a moron. FOX News, doesn't report news. They make bullshit up or invite guests on who they talk over and don't let state their opinions..."


Thanks for calling me an idiot. It is a complete compliment when coming from an actual idiot!




message 31: by Diana (last edited Dec 01, 2009 03:21PM) (new)

Diana Nathan wrote: "Thanks for calling me an idiot. It is a complete compliment when coming from an actual idiot!

That's the best you have? You attempt to insult an individual using the exact same insult they insult..."

I like cake.




message 32: by Diana (last edited Dec 01, 2009 03:29PM) (new)

Diana Nathan wrote: "Like I said, fucking pathetic moron with nothing to say. Why don't you spread some more of your right wing bullshit?"
Thanks Nathan! That is a great idea!
Oh, and I have plenty to say and you don't have to listen.



message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

I'm sorry, I'm completely ignorant about Fox News, we don't get it over here. What's the story with it? The only thing I know is that they don't really like athiests...


message 34: by Michael (new)

Michael Nor do they like people who think, or hope for facts. They hire anchors who shout instead of discussing issues, and push a paranoid version of the right-wing agenda.

You don't even need to analyze their discussions to see their bias; you can just listen to the snide way they say the word "liberal" and basically know where they stand.


message 35: by Diana (last edited Dec 15, 2009 12:15PM) (new)

Diana Just like CNN and MSNBC snide the word republican.


message 36: by [deleted user] (new)

I encourage everyone to go here and take the test:

www.politicalcompass.org


message 37: by David (new)

David (primemover) Surprise! I'm liberal in both aspects!


message 38: by [deleted user] (new)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowHM6...

Especially 2:14. Just saying.


message 40: by Anony-miss (new)

Anony-miss a-non-y-miss | 10 comments *shudder* Fox News ..


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