Nine Minutes discussion

will be spoilers ok so it was Grunts idea as it turned out and she wasnt in her right mind because of being dragged so it was rape right? because than im not as shere if i want Grunt and Kit to end tougether

It was rape either way, technically. The type of device was his idea. Devirginizing her was not. But intimidating her with the device as she grew foggy may have been his way of getting there first and making it something she requested and would keep secret.

After reading other discussions I have new doubts. I was so happy it was him with her. But now I need to reread some parts and see if I missed something.

Still hoping Grunts the good guy, but in a story like this do the good guys even exist?

I find it funnier that people don't like grunt but think Grizz is some kind of hero. I liked Grizz by the end but he was a scary dude. Grunt may have masterminded some crazy stuff, but he was more brain than brawn and would have learned quick how to get away with stuff without getting punished like everyone else. Both Grunt and Ginny were smart and were aware of the dangers. Their choices may not make them heroes, but they were certainly understandable. Grizzs only redeeming quality was his love for her. You can't really count a son you don't claim even if you treat him well. Offspring don't just accept that kind of treatment without repercussions.

i think i probebly need to reread too but i agree