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What is NOTHING?
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Lorna
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Sep 16, 2009 02:48PM
I guess 'nothing' is the absence of whatever you're looking for...?
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Nothing is what my dog barks at 24/7.
Nathan wrote: "Nothing is what you experience when you die."
well, you wont know until you die...
well, you wont know until you die...
Nathan wrote: "well, you wont know until you die...
Incorrect. You won't know when you die."
??? wtf?
Incorrect. You won't know when you die."
??? wtf?
*Maria*the cat spirit* wrote: "Nathan wrote: "well, you wont know until you die...Incorrect. You won't know when you die."
??? wtf?
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You can't know anything when you are dead.
So 'nothing' is a temporary state? I still think it depends on the context. Kira, we need a context...
Yes. You might see it coming in your last moments.I don't want to know, anyway. It'd only depress me X)
Kira wrote: "nothing cannot be the absense of what you are looking for. if you are locking a pond and you wnat to find a frog, but find a fish, is that fish nothing? and nathan, who said you know what happens w..."I meant that's how we use it. That's how everyone uses it in everyday conversation.
What do you think nothing is?
Kira wrote: "nothing cannot be the absense of what you are looking for. if you are locking a pond and you wnat to find a frog, but find a fish, is that fish nothing? and nathan, who said you know what happens w..."Let F be the case in which you have found the frog (or a frog?)
Let ~F be the case in which you did not find a frog.
According to what Lorna's definition, ~F would be nothing, or the absence of the small reptilian in question.
You have found a fish. Nobody ever said anything about a fish. A fish is most obviously not nothing. It is a fish. I like it best when its roasted or fried with light spices.
It was me that said that nothing is the absence of what you're looking for. And the context for my suggestion is everyday language. Technically and scientifically Lauren is right. A vacuum.
Zeppelin wrote: "*Maria*the cat spirit* wrote: "Nathan wrote: "well, you wont know until you die...
Incorrect. You won't know when you die."
??? wtf?
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You can't know anything when you are dead."
unless theres an afterlife
Incorrect. You won't know when you die."
??? wtf?
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You can't know anything when you are dead."
unless theres an afterlife
And here she thought she'd stumped you. Ha hah.
Nothing is the abscence of something in a place where there should be something, but that place could be something, nothing is not something and something is not nothing, nothing =/ something, but something can be nothing, therefore it is not commutative, but still nothing will not be something no matter what that something is and your state of consciousness is how we envision something and it is physically impossible to imagine nothing.Nothing is what blind people see, what deaf people hear, what misers spend and spendthrifts save, what the rich don't have, the poor require, what men carry to the grave and Buddhists desire. "D
Freedom's just another word for NOTHING left to lose. Oh wait ... I said that already.Il n'est rien.
J wrote: "And here she thought she'd stumped you. Ha hah."Lol I know Nathan well enough to know he won't ever be stumped.
Nice theory, Nathan. Emphasis on theory.
Lorna wrote: "J wrote: "And here she thought she'd stumped you. Ha hah."Lol I know Nathan well enough to know he won't ever be stumped.
Nice theory, Nathan. Emphasis on theory."
Is there anything that would make you think otherwise? ;) Like evidence of a cognitive spirit, for example? Oh, be right back. I'm going to go watch Doctor Who for a bit :P
Does there being an afterlife need physical conciousness? Of course you're not concious after you're dead - your brain is dead. But you can't prove that people don't have souls, which (apparently) is what lives on in an afterlife.
To be conscious, you need a brain. If your brain doesn't work, you aren't conscious. If you aren't conscious, you aren't living. If you aren't living, you don't have life. If there's no life in the afterlife, then there's no afterlife.
If not your consciousness, what is a soul?
"But you can't prove that people don't have souls, which (apparently) is what lives on in an afterlife. "
Your brain controls everything. There is nothing for a soul to do ergo it is silly to assume there is sucha thing.
Your brain controls everything. There is nothing for a soul to do ergo it is silly to assume there is sucha thing.
I have no idea. I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just pointing out that you cannot disprove the existence of an afterlife, or souls for that matter.
Yes you can. In this case, the absence of evidence is enough. If you assume souls exist, so many illogical and unanswerable questions pop up, it's folly to continue with that line of thinking.
So the absence of evidence is enough to disprove something? Bullshit. You can assume, but you cannot prove. And God forbid the birth of some difficult questions. We wouldn't want our scientists and goodreads debators to feel inadequate, would we?
"1935279 So the absence of evidence is enough to disprove something? Bullshit. You can assume, but you cannot prove. "
The absence of evidence means an innocent verdict instead of guilty. The absence of Santa means he's not real.
"If you assume souls exist, so many illogical and unanswerable questions pop up"
Souls have nothing to do, as everything about your mind and personality can be found in your brain, even the electric impulses that keep you alive can be observed
The absence of evidence means an innocent verdict instead of guilty. The absence of Santa means he's not real.
"If you assume souls exist, so many illogical and unanswerable questions pop up"
Souls have nothing to do, as everything about your mind and personality can be found in your brain, even the electric impulses that keep you alive can be observed
Ok. You say you fell down the stairs. I didn't see it. There's no evidence. Therefore, it didn't happen.People believed that the earth was flat. There was no evidence that it was round.
Just because there's no evidence, that doesnt prove ir disprove something.
'The absence of evidence (of a soul) means an innocent (possible) verdict instead of guilty (false).'
I really don't even know why I'm bothering.
If someone fell down the stairs, there would be evidence. They would probably be hurt, there might be other witnesses, etc.
If there is no evidence and no reason to think something exists, why waste your time thinking it does?
If there is no evidence and no reason to think something exists, why waste your time thinking it does?







