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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
What do you think will happen in this book?


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
I don't want this to end!! I'll probably cry more than I ever have in the last book. I'm starting to tear up just thinking of Shadowhunters ending... Imma go cry now


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
This is how much we know so far-
https://shadowhunters.fandom.com/wiki...


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Janus, Ty, Kit, Dru, Jamie, and Dru's new friend Thais are going to be major characters


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Yes!


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments I’m interested a lot in the Shadowhunter nusery rhyme and how they say ‘bronze to summon wicked powers’ . To me that means that perhaps only nephilim can summon wicked powers, so then one main villain has to be a nephilim. I also think the 9 princes of hell will tie in somehow. What do you guys think the Wicked Powers are ?


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Maybe it’s a demon or demonic force of some kind? Since you summon it.... unless you can summon an object.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Also since you must have bronze, maybe bronze is the only thing that can slay the demon (if it is the wicked power). I mean, you must have bronze to summon it , in case it gets out of control.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments And- Cassie says the series will forever change the Shadowhunter world, so maybe it means they all get stripped of their runes? I personally want it to end in the way no demon can ever get back in the earth realm so their isn’t need for shadow hunters, but I don’t think Cassie is that nice with our hearts😥


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
yeah. Janus (Thule Jace) is supposed to play a big part in it


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
☀︎Elena In Oz☀︎ wrote: "And- Cassie says the series will forever change the Shadowhunter world, so maybe it means they all get stripped of their runes? I personally want it to end in the way no demon can ever get back in ..."

I will always worry for my babies I don't want anything to happen to them that I won't be able to hear about. To me, every last one if them is real. I will write loads of fanfiction about the end, and I suspect others will too


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Yes! I don’t want to imagine how it will end because Cassie could always return to this world, but if this is the permanent ending... but I am here for her writing more series that come before TWP so we get more Shadowhunter content👏🏼


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Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments I want a series on Jem's daughter after TWP, but I know that's too much to ask for.😅


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
But Kit is part of it, so maybe Tessa and Jem will be like worried or something that their son is going into battle and Mina might be part of it


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alex (alexthebookish) | 7 comments Didn't Cassie say that one of the original TMI squad is going to die? (Not 100% sure about that but I saw it somewhere) Who do you think it would be?


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
*gasps* no not my babies!! I don't want to think of any of them dying!


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Alex wrote: "Didn't Cassie say that one of the original TMI squad is going to die? (Not 100% sure about that but I saw it somewhere) Who do you think it would be?"

Read number 16- https://www.buzzfeed.com/farrahpenn/c...

I'm screaming


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alex (alexthebookish) | 7 comments Tessa wrote: "Alex wrote: "Didn't Cassie say that one of the original TMI squad is going to die? (Not 100% sure about that but I saw it somewhere) Who do you think it would be?"

Read number 16- https://www.buzz..."


Well that does sound like either Jace or Clary dies- or both. I don't know if Cassie has it in her, and I'd be impressed and horrified if she did.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments I think she won’t kill Clary or Jace, but I think if/when they have kids maybe they’ll be named after/in honour of someone who dies. I’m thinking Alec, Simon, or Izzy.


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
☀︎Elena In Oz☀︎ wrote: "I think she won’t kill Clary or Jace, but I think if/when they have kids maybe they’ll be named after/in honour of someone who dies. I’m thinking Alec, Simon, or Izzy."

I swear to god, if it's Magnus I will... Well I have to decide what to do


message 21: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Alex wrote: "Tessa wrote: "Alex wrote: "Didn't Cassie say that one of the original TMI squad is going to die? (Not 100% sure about that but I saw it somewhere) Who do you think it would be?"

Read number 16- ht..."


I don't think it'll be them, but I think it'll be Magnus. Yes. That is my theory. If it happens, I will literally break


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments So who do you guys think the villain/villains will be? I think one will be a shadowhunter, and i still think the princes of hell will be big.


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Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Definitely Janus and I think maybe the Seelie Queen, but I don't know if Ash Morgenstern will be a villain or not.🤔


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
I think the Thule people will be big, but maybe not the seelie queen


message 25: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Yeah, good point.


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
I think the Seelie Queen is done now. Hopefully


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Lia wrote: "Yeah, good point."

I agree but I hope they aren't. I can't express how much I hate alternate dimension plots because they never end well. The only time it ended well was in Gemina.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Tessa wrote: "I think the Thule people will be big, but maybe not the seelie queen"

I think the seelie queen will be big, she's always the annoying person stirring up drama.


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
I don't want her to be big she's done enough in my opinion


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
But I do agree with your point about the princes of hell. And that leads to my theory that Magnus dies because his father is a prince of hell. Or one of the immortals dies. I strongly believe it'll be one of the immortals


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
So, Magnus or Tessa. I don't know which one I love more and who's death I'd be broken by more


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mjraves (bookscoffeeandimalesbian) | 74 comments I agree that one of those two is likely going to die 😭😭😭😭😭no matter who it is I’m going to have a mental breakdown and never stop crying about it


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
~ izzy lightwood (lesbianloverofbooks) ~ wrote: "I agree that one of those two is likely going to die 😭😭😭😭😭no matter who it is I’m going to have a mental breakdown and never stop crying about it"

It would destroy Jem, Kit, and Mina if Tessa dies, and Alec, and maybe the crew of TMI if Magnus dies. I don't think anybody except from Alec would be destroyed if Magnus died though


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments I think it’ll be Tessa. I think somehow Jem will be killer end of book 2 or middle of book 3, and Tessa makes a sacrifice and gets killed by a prince. And in the epilogue we’ll see the three of them reunite. Really idk, but I want Jem and Will to reunite.


message 35: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
*gasps* No not both of them!!!!! But maybe... they've lived long enough.... but their kids!


message 36: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments I'm getting anxiety thinking about the possibility of any of these characters dying.😭😖


message 37: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Lia wrote: "I'm getting anxiety thinking about the possibility of any of these characters dying.😭😖"

Lol same


message 38: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Yesterday I ranted to my mom that the series was going to end. She said "It'll be okay honey"


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Tessa wrote: "Lia wrote: "I'm getting anxiety thinking about the possibility of any of these characters dying.😭😖"

Lol same"

sameeee


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alex (alexthebookish) | 7 comments I'm actually kinda ok with the idea of Tessa dying IF Jem also dies. Because then they can go see Will and be happy together and yeah- I'd be totally fine with that if Mina didn't exist.


message 41: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Franz wrote: "Alex wrote: "I'm actually kinda ok with the idea of Tessa dying IF Jem also dies. Because then they can go see Will and be happy together and yeah- I'd be totally fine with that if Mina didn't exis..."

Wait again? Tessa's pregnant again? I thought she already had Mina!


message 42: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments No, I think Franz hasn't read Ghosts of the Shadow Market yet.


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J .ೃ (astascen) | 25 comments I want jem and tessa to live like a happy family with mina and kit cuz they deserved it, they been through A LOT, will already had that with tessa so I think he can wait I little bit longer for them to reunite


message 44: by J .ೃ (new)

J .ೃ (astascen) | 25 comments and I love clary but I think cc in qoaad, for example, it's already preparing us to say goodbye to her


message 45: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Maybe... and then both Jace and Janus will be Clary-less. That’s sounds terrible


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments It is awful but it feels like that may be the only way to solve Janus’ problem. Also- does anyone else think that their will be an epilogue that features all the Shadowhunters from all the generations? Or this could be the last chapter(s). Tessa and Jem get to see Will and Tessa sees her kids. I think if the Shadowhunter universe is forever changed, they either all die or all are stripped of their marks. So maybe this is in heaven? Or the dead Shadowhunters come to give strength to the MCs as they prepare for the final battle. Like in HP *SOPILER* before he faces Voldemort he uses the resurrection stone to see his parents, Sirius, and Lupin again one last time. Idk, but it seems to me that would be a heart breaking but satisfying ending if we got to see all the generations as one.


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
That would be amazing! Now I really want that to happen.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Looking through tumblr, the riders of Manon (or however you spell taht) are described using the colour bronze (clothes, weapons, appearance) often (and you need bronze to summon wicked powers). Cassie said she couldn’t elaborate on this as it was a spoiler. Why do you guys think it is a spoiler?


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Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Ohhhh maybe because Ty and Kit associated with them and they’re the MCs of TWP, that has something to do with it?


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Yeah, that would make sense! They might also help summon the powers...


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