Heartless discussion

I think we'll probably find out more secrets about Ali that make us form new theories there seems to be something about Ali that sara is hinting at but i doubt its that she has a twin because thats too obvious she wants us to believe theres a twin but i think theres something else that was wrong in Ali's life.

if i remember correctly ,, at the beginning of the first book , ali is hypnotizing the girls . so what im thinking is they're all hypnotized . because this whole ali thing is making no sense to me AT ALL !!!

okay i think that wilden is A because in killer he was loading propane into his car and then he set the woods on fire because ian told the girls that jason and wilden killed alison. but then they found ali. I think that emily will go out with maya again, and i think that Aria wont go back out with jason because he was a mental patient at the Radley. the place that was being turned into a hotel.

oh, and when ali runs out of the barn, she goes down the path, fights with spencer, and then spencer pushes her, and then she gats up and walks away ,and then shes fighting with someone, and i think that its jason, and that he and wilden threatened her so that she would run away. and then they make her come back to those woods so they could kill her for real. and wilden isnt helping them because he doesnt want them to know anything, so that they dont make any assumptions and so then they wont find out thatr he is a, but i think that they will in heartless.

I feel like Ali is alive. Or maybe I just really want her to be! Whatever! Plus in Killer, it said that the body was never DNA tested so maybe it wasn't Ali. The twin theory is too Sci- Fi to me. Something is up with Melissa! Anyone have any theories for that? Wilden is such a killer! CANT WAIT FOR THIS BOOK!!!!

apperantly nobody believes them. i think that Ali is alive and A is tricking the girls. it makes sense that wilden was the killer. cuz of the propane and stuff.

i agree

i feel like melissa has something to do with A... or even is A... because A is no longer really trying to hurt them but help them, and the only A's really hurting is Spencer and thats a family issue... I really really really hope that who they see during the fire is Ali... i spazed when i read that part... ooohh this series is going to be the end of me i swear!

i feel that maybe ali is alive and she was a, trying to get the girls to figure out what was going on so she can try to come back but when wilden set fire to the woods he ruined her plan. something is way up with melissa she's up to something, maybe she already knew ian was alive and trying to help him or she's serectly dating wilden and helping him.... i dk, but i am so anticipating on heartless to hurry up and come out like new moon!

and plus they did say that the person in the picture must be naomi, it could've been a twin or maybe jason. you never know....

Okay I agree with Nikki b/c I think the girls are still hiptonized, but if that is not right I hope that Ali is that girl and the twin thing does not make sence!!! I think also Mellissa has something to do with it!!!!! I am really excited btw I am a girl just saying.

Nikki wrote: "if i remember correctly ,, at the beginning of the first book , ali is hypnotizing the girls . so what im thinking is they're all hypnotized . because this whole ali thing is making no sense to me ..."

THAT would be awsome

OKAY! i'm so excited to buy this one, im getting it for christmas off Amazon,
i think Maya is A, and she somehow found out loads of shit about Ali's murder,
I dont think the Ali in killer is the real Ali, cos if it is then what about the body they ID'd in the whole when Maya first moved in.
Also, I think Melissa is definately involved somehow, Jason maybe was like in love with her, and she got with Ian, and Ian also liked Ali, so Jason thought Ian was taking everything away from him and started to hate him,

I knew wilden was up to somethin in Flawless or PLL when he got a phonecall and left the room when he was interviewing the girls and all of them got a message from A which was actually Mona,

maybe it has something to do with the Hypnotizing thing, but i definately dont think it's the real Ali

OMG I CANT WAIT FOR THIS BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN KILLER THEY LEFT YOU HANGING WITH ALI BEING ALIVE IT MADE ME SO MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN NOT WAIT THESE BOOK ARE THE BEST!!

I think that maybe Maya could be A... only becuz she has been acting really suspicious lately... and i agree that wilden and jason were behind all thins crap but i think there actually might be another person behind who made ali disappear for so long. and what was wilden talking about in jason's yearbook over ians picture about his offer still standing?? the sara shepard is so amazingly twisted she makes you think really hard. like maybe she made it someone obvious knowing that you would think it wouldnt be some one obvious and you think harder or if ur just simple minded like some u think its someone obvious but she actually picks someone u wud never think of... does that make sense?? lol i just dont know anymore

At the end of the last book they found Ali right so I think we will learn a lot of the secrets she kept from them, and we will learn about more about all the girls.

i first wanna say i LOVE these books! i think they find Ali and find out what really happened that nite and who that person they found in the hole really was. i think emily and maya might talk more in this book. i also think jason and wilden will try to stop them from finding out too. i think melissa is some how behind this Ali thing too and that maybe she told spencer that she has a different mother just to get her away from finding out the truth. i actully think jason and melissa might have had something going on. i also agreed wth taylor and lots of other ppl too. i pretty much think there are many different theries. i wish we could read the book right now!

i think that the people spencer said she barely remembered in the woods after ali ran away was ali and melissa fighting bbecause she found out ali was going to meet up with her bf.

and i think that either some time after that wilden killed her.

or that maybe she was still alive and wilden might be keeping her hostage in the woods like a sphyco and so during the fire she was already in the woods.

but does anyone have any idea of who was dead in the hole if its not ali?

has everyone forgotten about jenna? she is helping jason. they got into that fight emily saw and it is possible she may not even be blind. Maya and Jenna seem to have a close friendship. Who's body was in ali's backyard if it wasn't hers. When aria was in jason's apartment way did he want to make sure she didn't go into the main house what if ali's parents were hiding her in the house or even if jason was. Ali's whole family seems to be hiding something. spencers sister knows something and isn't telling. Ian had to fake his own death but why? all the evidence seems to be pointing to wilden but what was his motive?

I think that Wilden is too obvious to be A. But i do agree with Nikki, that maybe they are all hypnotized. But you never know. All i know is that i cant wait for Heartlesss!!!!!!! yayyyy

this is what i believe:

Love theories: melissa and wilden had/have something secret going on.
jason WANTED to have something with melissa.
ian and melissa had something public going on.
ian and ali had something secret going on.
but then, ian and spencer had something and maybe still did...

ali is definitely alive: remember near the end of killer, when spencer thinks she saw a blonde haired, blue eyed, pretty girl outside her window doing something on the ground? she thought it was melissa. maybe, im thinking, it was ali.

wilden is the new a: there was all that crap from a about "dont tell the police, because i will know." wilden IS a police officer. he could have told mona when the girls told him about A. and then, after mona's death, he automatically knew.

kate is evil: well, we all know this. and in heartless hanna and kate will have their final showdown in which kate's secret will be revealed and hanna's dad will see her evil side. then a will get involved with kate, and something bad is gonna happen to her.

yupyup, that's what i think. in conclusion, melissa is an evil slutty bitch, wilden is a bad guy, ali lives, and something bad happens to kate.

tell me, you guys-- do you think this will be the last book in the series??
ahhhh I CANT WAIT! <33333

i definitely think ali is still alive. i think jason was keeping her hostage in his apartment and that melissa knows about it. i think the new A is Wilden and he is working with ian and jason. however in every book youu are led on to think something, and it ends up being completely wrong so i really have no idea. cant wait til jan. 19th!

its me again i jst wanted to say i agreed wth u guys. i think it was melissa and ali fighting & that ali is alive cuz didnt they see her at the end of killer. i think melissa & jason maybe might of find out bout the ali & ian secret. she to get revange wilden, melissa, & jason all teamed together & some how mona, jenna, & mayb even maya & kate even too. cuz rember the first A mona we still dont really knw y she even was A really in the first place and how she in all this too. mayb she had something too do wth it & mayb jenna is helping jason cuz aria, spencer, emily, & hanna killed her used to be best friend as revenge. mayb they all want revenge. i also agreed wth like everyone so i really dont knw wat to think. CANT WAIT 4 THE BOOK!

alright: so I have a bunch of different theories but they all have holes... :( well here goes: A) so Ali has a twin. The twin has problems so she was in the mental hospital. The reason Jason was written in the sign in book is cause he was visiting her and also Sara did an inerview and she said this A is more sinister than the old A so A is just trying to make the girls think that they're helping them. theory B) Ali and Spencer are sisters. thats why their parents got all wacko when they would say they were sisters. One of Spencers parents cheated with Ali's parents and voila Spencer! haha but seriously it might be true... ? AHH I CANT STAND THIS YOU PUBLISHERS ARE SO EVIL!! gosh I hope they make a movie of this !

I am confused!
*If you havnt read Killer yet dont read because this might spoil the book for you*

*this is what i think happend/ going to happen*

I think that ali is alive and was never dead, she also dose not have a twin! where did evryone get that idea from? i think they could of just used any body even a fake one to put in the hole, i mean in killer it even said that the DNA results werent even in when they buried the body. Also i think that Ali was hiding in jasons and his parents house just at the top. Thats why jason freaked out when he saw aria in his house. Also, when spencer saw someone with blond hair and blue eyes in the woods and thought it was melissa it could have been ali lookin for somethin and she stayed in the woods that day and she was there when the fire happend and thats why she got stuck under the tree trunk/branch. I dont think Jason or Darren are A its too obvious, i think it might be Jenna or Maya because they seem to be acting weird together, but mostly Jenna. im not even sure if she is blind... Jason was at Jennas house and so was Darren... I know Ian is alive and he and Mellisa are tryin to help the 4 figure out who A is. Mellisa left because she knows who A is and wants to tell Spencer but knows if she does spencer will get hurt, so thats why she left so fast. As for Jason he has mental issues, thats why he is in the log in book for the renolds (i think thats what its called) which is a hotel now, thats why he used to go to the schools phyciatrist dailey, and thats also why sometimes he can be extremly nice then turn into an angry monster any second. Ali's parents are also trying to hide some stuff from the media because they have already said too much. hmmmm... Kate? She is down right evil, when Hanna and Ali went to visit her once Kate noticed how strange Hanna acted around Ali, so Kate tried to turn into Ali she became friends with neomi and riley, and totured Hanna. Aria... Meridith is nice and is trying to connect with Aria. Xaviar and Aria will begin seein more of each other and Ella will find out or see them doing somethin, then Ella and Arias relationship will hit rock bottom again. Mike, i feel bad for him he is being used. He and Hanna will break up and not go to prom together. Emily- she will stop seeing Isaac and start having feelings for Maya again. Which will result in more problems with her family and with A. The lax boys will still be annoying, hot, dirty-minded boys that can manage to get away with anythin... hmmm... As for Darren, he will gat caught for causing the huge fire and he will be fired as a cop. He will then want his revenge on the girls. Im still not sure what he ment when he wrote in Jasons yearbook over Ian sayin "my offer still stands"... So yea im confused..
I cant wait for Heartless!! But mad it dosent come out till January 19 and then the 8th and final book comes out June 29th.... WANTED!!! dun dun dunnnn!
Can't wait! Thnx to anyone that took the time to read this! Please feel free to comment or reply to me if yu agree on something, disagree, or if i have any facts wrong, or anything else. Thanks again!

Does ANYBODY!?!?!? know a leak website or something. I did find one but they haddent had it yet and I really need 2 read it or im going 2 like idk cry or sumthn is there ANY websites at all please let me know asap

ok i think that the ali at the end of killer is the real ali cuz i remember in one of the books when i think aria went into the TOP part of jason's house and he caught her and he said DID YOU GO INTO THE BOTTOM PART? so like maybe ali was down there PLUS maybe A is trying to help them because A sent aria t there probably to find ali and i remember in the beginning of the first book says
and i quote

"and your minds on your crush, the boy who goes to that other prep school whose name we wont mention and who folds jeans at the abercrombie mall. You're eating your coco krispies just the way you like em-doused in skim milk- AND YOU SEE THIS GIRLS FACE ON THE SIDE OF THE MILK CARTON. MISSING. SHE'S CUTE-PROBABLY CUTER THAN YOU-AND HAS A FEISTY LOOK IN HER EYES . YOU THINK, HMM MAYBE SHE LIKES SOGGY COCOA KRISPIES TO. AND YOU BET SHE'D THINK ABERCROMBIE BOY WAS A HOTTIE AS WELL. YOU WONDER HOW SOMEONE SO....WELL SO MUCH LIKE YOU WENT MISSING...."

DUH!!!!! well i think ali is in the bottom part of jason's house which was why he was all in killer did u go into the bottome part. and she's probably got memory loss something like that hit on the head (gosh im going really out their arent i lol) and has this whole thought in her head!!!!!! like she just some other person which is y at the end of killer she didnt recognize the girls!!!!! gosh im gettting so excited lol

oh and jason was in a mental hospital for touching ali cuz in one of the books toby used to touch jenna and ali had helped jenna get rid of toby because jenna said ali had "sibling troubles to"

what puzzles me alot and idk if its really big or just sumthing is that in one of the books one of the girls is thinking about why ali dumped riley and naomi and that ali told the girls not to talk to riley and noami

DUN DUN DUN!!!!!!11

i agree that alli is alive and jason was holding her hostage because he was crazy and liked her which was why he was in the mental hostpital but why didnt alli remember the girls at the end of the last book maby almost like brain washed i.d.k cant wait for the next book to come out

I'm nearly 100% sure that Jenna actually isn't blind (and Ali definitley shot the firework at her on purpose because Jenna knew something about her and Jason, and was possibly taunting her about it?)And it's possible that the reason Jason and Wilden were talking to her and stuff was because they wanted to know stuff she knew about Ali, or something. I also think Ian is dead, and someone is impersonating him.How could be alive if he was blue, and one of his eyes seemed to bulge open and the other stayed too closed? I was suspicious of Wilden since Wicked.He probably only got a job as a policeman to make himself look like a good guy! As for the hypnotizing thing, I think it's possible Ali learnt how to do it from Jason or something, not those older friends she was talking about. I have some more theories about Mona and Maya and Ali too, but they're very bizarre and extremely unlikely :-)

Hanna's trading in her Dior trench for a straitjacket. Aria's trying to contact the dead. Emily's dumped her boyfriend and is skipping town . . . again. And Spencer thinks someone in her family has gotten away with murder.

What if Ali has a twin sister who was a mental patient and jason used to go and see her until she disapeared . . . then showed up later to kill ali and be a.

Hey someone might've siad this before, but what if the guy Ali was telling Emily she was seeing but couldn't tell her who it was because she would freak out wasn't Ian?

Jazmin wrote: "I am confused!
*If you havnt read Killer yet dont read because this might spoil the book for you*

*this is what i think happend/ going to happen*

I think that ali is alive and was never dead..."

I think that Ali is actually messing with the girls and maybe she is A also i think that Ali is whith Ian because remember when Spencer thought she saw Melissa in the woods looking for something, and later on she found Ians ring... maybe it was Ali and she is with Ian hahahah idk im just guessing

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I CANT WAIT FOR HEARTLESS TO COME OUT!!!! SOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!! are these books going to b movies cause i reallllllllllllyyyyyy HOPE so!!!!!!!!!

i definatly think Ali is alive!!! because...at the end of one of these books...at somones funeral.. emily looks out the door and sees a white car with the window slightly rolled down where she could see eyes and the eyes reminded her of ali's!!! and there where much more signes of her being alive!!! i think the body in the hole was a look a like of ali! like wilden and jason had killed someone that looked like ali by mistake!!! ut who knows!! but all i know is that i cant waot for HEARTLESS!!!! i am absolutley in love <3 with these books!!!!!!

i think that this whole thing definately has something to do with naomi zeigler. i was suspicious of her from the very beginning. i think that out of her, jenna, and ali in that picture a sent the girls, naomi is the one that doesn't belong. also, at the radley party, kate and riley are happy for hanna and mike while the narrator says that naomi looked mad. i don't know... something just seems off with her.

and also, naomi is blonde. maybe she was one of the two blondes in the woods...

I think Ali is really back but that doesn't explain where she was and who the dead body with her ring on it is! Melissa is so suspicious she could be the helpful A. I think the person who led them to the barn which was lit on fire was from Wilden or Jason pretending to be A. And what is up with the flag no jason was he abusing Ali? Jenna C. is definatly keeping something extremely important from us, is she really bind or has she been watching the 4 some all along giving them tips. And how did Ian fake his death like that?

Marisa wrote: "and also, naomi is blonde. maybe she was one of the two blondes in the woods..."

I don't think it was her I mean I guess it would fit in with Mona, but it doesn't fit. What about Jenna or Melissa they both have blonde hair and both are acting odd hiding something.

Ellie wrote: "i definatly think Ali is alive!!! because...at the end of one of these books...at somones funeral.. emily looks out the door and sees a white car with the window slightly rolled down where she coul..."

I totally agree she is alive I just don't see how she was able to hide unless the police like Wilden were hiding her in the Poconos house. Why would she go in a limo to watch "her" funeral? what if it was Jason?

NO NO NO okay so Ali was living in a town with no electrons so it all makes so much sense. Omg i can't believe it. those pages above give it away!!!!!!!!!! ahh now i can rest.

Ali is alive
Jason & Wilden are A (in cahoots)
Melissa knows EVERYTHING
Jason & Wilden kidnapped Ali to keep her quiet about Jason’s secret
Toby & Jason shared the same shrink in Rosewood
Ian was the white coats and was threatened by A to leave town didn’t listen & was arrested
Wilden knew Ian escaped & drugged him to make him look blue and set a delayed text to make it seem like A was there
Wilden & Jason kidnapped a girl around Ali’s size to plant & make seem like Ali was dead
Ali never left Rosewood (or possibly in the Poconos house)
Jenna knows more then it seems

Okaay I have sooooooooooooooooo many theories.
First off, I think that Ali and Wilden were having a fling and HE saved her and got away from whoever was trying to kill her.
I think that Melissa was the one who tried to kill Ali. All the evidence is there. I forget which book, but during a flashback, Melissa walks by the whole and it says that she looks likes she's trying to figure out the dimensions, which would only make sense if she was gonna put something in the whole, like, for instance, a 13 year old girl. Also, she told Spencer that she didn't remember her mother being pregnant with Spencer. She was most likely trying to throw her off because she thought that Spencer was onto her. Also, Melissa is always trying to make it clear to Spencer that she's better and that the parents love only her. In the fourth book, she tells Spencer that it take a "unique" person to kill someone, and that it's not Spencer. I think she was trying to say that she's the unique one, and Spencer's not. Caitlin, Jason and Toby were not in the same shrink. Jason was in the Radley place and Toby was sent to a reform school in Philadelphia. Oh, and also, I don't think that it was Wilden and Jason who killed Ali. I mean, I did at first, but now that when I think about it, its totally unlikely. Ian is OBVIOUSLY dead, and the person instant messaging Spencer had Ian's screen name. It's definitely a fake, and they would lie to throw them off. Wilden overheard the conversation between the girls at the Radley party and burned burned down the woods because of that BECAUSE he doesn't want them to know what really happened that night (possibly him saving Ali). Also, they say that Ali, Naomi, and Riley used to be best friends but they stopped talking to each other. I really don't think that it was a big deal or a key part in the story. Aria, Emily, Spencer, and Hanna thought that Ali was gonna dump them for a new group of friends during the summer that she disappeared. Maybe she just dumped them for Hanna, Aria, Spencer, and Emily. You never know. I also think that the DiLaurentis family know more than they're saying. Why in hell would a family move away when they have a child missing? Logically, they would stay because that's where Ali would go back to if she was alive and got away. This may be a little silly, but I think that Jason is gay. I know that he kissed Aria in Killer, but that doesn't mean anything. He was supposed to be super hot, yet he never dated, and he said that Ali was always teasing him about girls, possibly because he didn't like them, he liked guys. Jason could have killed whoever died because he was pissed at Ali, or because he liked Ian or something. Maybe that's why it said he looked so mad when he saw Melissa with Ian in the hot tub. Not because he likes Melissa, because he likes Ian. He also could be a hermaphrodite. In the third book, Lucas tells Hanna that once Ali asked him if he was a hermaphrodite. Maybe, she learned what that was because of her brother. I know it sounds sort of silly, but it's a possibility. But, there's definitely something screwy about Jason because you don't get sent to a shrink because "you're not good at making friends". Maya very well could be "A", but I have no idea how she got the information. I think that Wilden could possibly be the new "A" because Ali's diary was sent to the police station, so he would see it. I know that everything I'm saying is crossing everything out. It's sooooooooooooo confusing. I really want to know what's gonna happen! Can't wait until Tuesday!!!

Lara wrote: "Okaay I have sooooooooooooooooo many theories.
First off, I think that Ali and Wilden were having a fling and HE saved her and got away from whoever was trying to kill her.
I think that Melissa w..."
yeah i am counting down to tuesday

.. okaii . so I think Jason is Bipolar.. which would explain why he was sent to the mental hospital, and the counciler and why he was nice to aria and then changed and freaked out on her. I dont think Ali is dead, i think maybe Jason hurt her then thier family didnt want anyone to find out about Jason being bipolar so they covered it up. i think ali and Spencer are half sister's but not twins (one of them could've been born in january and the other born in December- it works, trust me) And Ali's mom is Spencer's real mom. and the girl who posed as her "real mom" is Ali's aunt .. (it has a lot of holes but oh well right?) and if you want to know some spoilers click here http://prettylittleliarsss.webs.com/a...

hey maybe someone mentioned this before, but- remember one time Emily was in Maya's house and she noticed a picture of an Amish girl on the wall in the bathroom? Maya is definitely very suspicious, maybe she has some connection to Leah!