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Battle Ground (The Dresden Files, #17)
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message 1: by Darkcain11, Merlin (new) - rated it 5 stars

Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
Well, first Maggie is a year away from getting a stepmother. Will she have any contact with Lara? Is it a good idea to have an impressionable Maggie close to a succubus vampire nope, but if you look at Maggie following in harry's shoes becoming a wizard and treading a world of grays. Building a prior relationship with one of the most powerful women in the country would be a great start similar to Harry's relationship with Lea.

Ok, so with the white Council disavowing Harry. Who will train Maggie when she awakens her magic? My Pick was always Yoshiro. Harry always respected her, she's female and younger than Luccio. That can't happen anymore since she's dead.
Ramirez and Luccio are out because of the Council.
Molly is too engrained as a fae. Dresden wouldn't want Maggie to share the fate of Molly in Cold Days.
Harry's out cause it's his daughter.
It Leaves only one viable option. Elaine Mallory is the only person whose independent from the council.
Share your thoughts on who should train Maggie and how her and Lara will interact not at all or at arms reach.


Christian | 148 comments Elaine might be a good, comforting choice, but her outlaw status with the council doesn’t help. Luccio is possibly a better choice of mentor.


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Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
Luccio is what 200 how does she relate with Maggie. She even told Dresden how she failed Morgan. She might find it easier with a woman but I think she's far too distant for that.


Christian | 148 comments Ebenezar was apparently over 200 when he took Harry in. Can we agree that wizards getting so old is Bs. Luccio new body, also affected her mind and worldview. It’s what made her susceptible to mind magic in the first place


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Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
Ebenezar, mostly taught Harry values. Which turned out to be kinda a lie. Everything he taught Harry about Magic he was doing the opposite as the blackstaff. His world view is too rigid. That's part of the reason the council will fall soon. Even with Luccio having the new body she's just as rigid.
Elaine being independent is better equipped to navigate the modern world. In my opinion.


Christian | 148 comments I’m still somewhat on the fence if Elaine is ultimately going to be on Harry’s side. There are fan theories out there seriously questioning if Justin is actually gone. Necromancy seemed to be one of his hobbies, if Justin makes a comeback it’s going to be interesting to see if he still can enthrall her again.


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Darkcain11 | 324 comments Mod
Elaine might be Kaori, so that would put a damper on that.


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James | 81 comments Darkcain11 wrote: Who will train Maggie when she awakens her magic? My Pick was always Yoshiro. "
We already know Butcher is sending Maggie and Mouse to an academy for special children like Hogwarts. Might be the next book out as he plans these things pretty far in advance. Edit St. Mark's Academy for the Gifted and Talented.


Christian | 148 comments SMAGT is still just a regular school, it just caters to the supernatural crowd. It’s the same Scholl Irwin Pounder attended.


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James | 81 comments Christian wrote: "SMAGT is still just a regular school, it just caters to the supernatural crowd. It’s the same Scholl Irwin Pounder attended."
Not much use having a Gifted and Talented academy if you don't study any of those subjects.


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Caryl Huffstetler | 90 comments James wrote: "Darkcain11 wrote: Who will train Maggie when she awakens her magic? My Pick was always Yoshiro. "
We already know Butcher is sending Maggie and Mouse to an academy for special children like Hogwart..."

The Maggie and Mouse book has been talked about as a YA series set at St. Mark's where Irwin and Connie Pounder will be instructors.
There's also a strong hint at the end of Job Placement, the mirco-ficton posted this year featuring Irwin and Connie, that they feel a sense of obligation to Harry for making their relationship possible. Which leads to a whole host of questions: Will that sense of obligation lead to a protective relationship with Maggie? Does Irwin know enough about his father's people's magic to share it with Maggie? Etc., etc. etc.


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Caryl Huffstetler | 90 comments Caryl wrote: "James wrote: "Darkcain11 wrote: Who will train Maggie when she awakens her magic? My Pick was always Yoshiro. "
We already know Butcher is sending Maggie and Mouse to an academy for special childre..."


Connie and Irwin are going to be protective of Maggie if not her instructors. Kind of like having an early warning system or a 'bat-signal' for Harry in case Maggie needs his intervention and having two clued-in sounding boards Maggie can turn to for problems not requiring Harry's level of kaboom.
I personally don't believe either one would be able to take her on as an apprentice. I don't think their magic is wizard appropriate.


message 13: by Monica, White Council (new) - rated it 5 stars

Monica T. Rodriguez (monicatrodriguez) | 374 comments Mod
Do we know if Maggie knows about the alphas? Has she met Will or Georgia yet?


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Caryl Huffstetler | 90 comments Monica wrote: "Do we know if Maggie knows about the alphas? Has she met Will or Georgia yet?"

I can't recall an actual interaction between the Alphas and Maggie in canon, but the Alphas know about her.


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Matt | 10 comments Haven’t read the micro-fiction yet, getting to now.

IMHO, I think when it comes to wizard training, Harry will lead most of it like he did with Molly. He’s a good teacher and he enjoyed it.

Also, White Council will be a moot issue by then. New organization, New rules.


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Angie ~aka Reading Machine~ (wolffaerie17) | 289 comments Mod
Great thoughts!


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