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On page 32 proctor said “your grandfather had a habit of willing land that never belonged to him, if I may say it plain”. Proctor was throwing shade at both Putnam and Putnams grandfather. He was saying how they are basically stealing land by selling it if it doesn’t even belong to them. When you read this scene you can sense tension between the characters and you see that proctor clearly does not like Putnam or his grandfather during this particular scene.
An example of throwing shad during the book is “Mrs.Putnam, glancing at Betty: How high did she fly, how high”. Mrs. Putnam is throwing shade at Parris and Betty saying that Betty is a witch. Parris wants believe that Betty is not a witch. Mrs. Putnam purposely throws this shade saying also that it’s a stroke of hell upon Parris
An quote that shows an example of a character of throwing shade at another character or reading another character is on page 27 when Proctor says to Putnam "This society will not be a bag to swing around your head". This show tension between Putnam and Proctor because Proctor is saying that Putnam is lying about the children dying and he cant just play around with the society. Proctor is throwing shade a Putnam about his choice of character.
Emily wrote: "An quote that shows an example of a character of throwing shade at another character or reading another character is on page 27 when Proctor says to Putnam "This society will not be a bag to swing ..."Another example of Proctor throwing shade at Mr.Putnam is when Putnam tell Paris he will look for witchcraft when Reverend Hale arrives and John says "You cannot command Mr.Parris. We vote by name in the society, not by acreage" (page 28). This is a good example of shade because despite Mr.Putnam's large land holdings he is not held in high regard by most because they have suspicions about how he got the land. It connects to the larger theme of peoples names holding a large weight throughout the book and if they can be believed.
Tituba throws shade at Mr Parris, when she says "Mr. Parris no goodly man, Mr. Parris mean man and no gentle man, and he bid me rise out of my bed and cut your throat" (47). Tituba is calling out Mr Parris' character and calling him a terrible man and this is proven later in the book when Parris accuses many innocent people of being witches.
It is clear that Proctor does not like Parris. Most people would keep there thoughts to themselves but Proctor does otherwise. He says he will not let his child be baptized by Parris because "I see no light of God in that man. I'll not conceal it" (65). Proctor uses the opportunity to shade Parris and insult him even though he is the minister of Salem. It was a risky move to make on Proctors part because many people look up to and trust Parris, but Proctor isn't afraid to expose who he really is.
On page 28 Putnam says, "I never heard you worried so on this society, Mr. Proctor. I do not think I saw you at Sabbath meeting since snow flew." This is Putnam throwing shade at John Proctor and it is easy to sense her growing edge of sarcasm. Putnam says this because Proctors religious habits do not relate to his apparent concern for society
Arthur Miller writes that Parris constantly objects to Proctor speaking. Parris claims that Proctor has “come to overthrow this court”(88) and that it was “a lie be spread in open court!”(89). Parris is throwing shade by clearly not respecting Proctor. Parris does not even let Proctor talk in court.
Jessica wrote: "On page 28 Putnam says, "I never heard you worried so on this society, Mr. Proctor. I do not think I saw you at Sabbath meeting since snow flew." This is Putnam throwing shade at John Proctor and i..."I believe that Putnam is one of the most sarcastic characters in the book. Another example of Putnam throwing shade is when she says "Why, we are surely gone wild this year"(32). By saying this, she is indicating that Proctor stole lumber
Kailee wrote: "It is clear that Proctor does not like Parris. Most people would keep there thoughts to themselves but Proctor does otherwise. He says he will not let his child be baptized by Parris because "I see..."Proctor and Parris's relationship is obviously bad. I definitely agree when you said that Proctor is not afraid to expose Parris. When he said "Can you speak one minute without we land in Hell again?"(30) to Parris, He was denouncing Parris's preaching and revealing that all Parris goes on about is how the villagers are going to hell.
Reid wrote: "An example of throwing shad during the book is “Mrs.Putnam, glancing at Betty: How high did she fly, how high”. Mrs. Putnam is throwing shade at Parris and Betty saying that Betty is a witch. Parri..."It is clear that Mrs. Putnam enjoys throwing shade at others. Another time she did this, was when she stated "There are wheels within wheels in this village, and fires within fires!"(28). However, this time, she is throwing shade to all of the people practicing witchcraft.
Jessica wrote: "On page 28 Putnam says, "I never heard you worried so on this society, Mr. Proctor. I do not think I saw you at Sabbath meeting since snow flew." This is Putnam throwing shade at John Proctor and i..."I like this quote that you found because even though its an evident example it is one of the best quotes to answer this question. I respect how Proctor is not scared to say how he truly feels and by having a sense of sarcasm, it makes the readers more intrigued and want to become more involved in his story.
Gabriella wrote: "On page 32 proctor said “your grandfather had a habit of willing land that never belonged to him, if I may say it plain”. Proctor was throwing shade at both Putnam and Putnams grandfather. He was s..."Throughout the book Proctor has not been afraid to throw shots at other people and it has lead to more conflict throughout the characters relationships. Putnam finishes this conversation with Proctor and Giles by saying "You load one oak of mine and you'll fight to drag it home" (34). Putnam uses this opportunity to take a dig at Giles and this is a main way the characters get their point across throughout the book.
Gabriella wrote: "On page 32 proctor said “your grandfather had a habit of willing land that never belonged to him, if I may say it plain”. Proctor was throwing shade at both Putnam and Putnams grandfather. He was s..."You can see the use of shade throughout the whole text but i saw that as a huge part of shade being thrown. It showed proctors feelings towards Putnam. This conflict was not the end of being shade thrown around at all. Relationships were broken and truth got out because of shade being thrown
Another example of a character throwing shade at another is when John Proctor is first introduced in the book. He says "Take it to heart, Mr. Parris. There are many others who stay away from church these days because you hardly ever mention God any more". He is throwing shade by saying that he and many others dislike Parris's preaches. This relates to the larger themes in the book because it describes how many people are straying away from the church at the time. When Parris realizes this, he uses the Witch trials to scare people into attending church again.
Jessica wrote: "On page 28 Putnam says, "I never heard you worried so on this society, Mr. Proctor. I do not think I saw you at Sabbath meeting since snow flew." This is Putnam throwing shade at John Proctor and i..."I believe that Mrs. Putnam is trying to use any excuse to blame on the fact that many of her children died after childbirth. I think that she went along with the Witch accusations because she desperately wanted to believe it was true. However, on the other hand, this did not happen to Proctor so he refuses to align with the church because he knows that it is all false. I believe that this is why they disagree.
Kailee wrote: "It is clear that Proctor does not like Parris. Most people would keep there thoughts to themselves but Proctor does otherwise. He says he will not let his child be baptized by Parris because "I see..."I agree it is very clear Proctor resents Parris. When Hale questions proctor about Proctor's attendance in church, Proctor testifies that Parris only cares about money and resources and tokens like "golden candlesticks" (page 65). proctor says "I labor the earth from dawn to day to blink of night, and I tell you true, when I look to heaven and see my money glaring at his elbows- it hurt my prayer sir" (65). Proctor is angered because he labors all day and hates Parris's superior attitude because of his status.
Reid wrote: "An example of throwing shad during the book is “Mrs.Putnam, glancing at Betty: How high did she fly, how high”. Mrs. Putnam is throwing shade at Parris and Betty saying that Betty is a witch. Parri..."I really agree with this example of throwing shade. Especially because she is even hinting about Betty being a witch which means that she is not a fan of Bettys' right now, and wants everyone to know it.
Jessica wrote: "On page 28 Putnam says, "I never heard you worried so on this society, Mr. Proctor. I do not think I saw you at Sabbath meeting since snow flew." This is Putnam throwing shade at John Proctor and i..."This example is very important. This is because religion during this time was very important, especially because of the witch trials that are going on. And since Proctor has not been going to church, and is still concerned about his town, it makes the other members of the time question if his priorities are straight. So i really liked this quote t prove the characters throwing shade at each other, and a rising tension between them.
Emily wrote: "An quote that shows an example of a character of throwing shade at another character or reading another character is on page 27 when Proctor says to Putnam "This society will not be a bag to swing ..."I agree this quote is showing shade being thrown and how tensions are growing as more women and accused of being witches. Another example that goes along with this one is when Putnam tells Proctor "I've never heard you worried so on this society..." This was an attack on Proctor for not being religious anymore. These two men kept throwing shade at each other which shows from the very beginning of the book, that they do not like each other, and things only get worse as the trials began.
Lili wrote: "Arthur Miller writes that Parris constantly objects to Proctor speaking. Parris claims that Proctor has “come to overthrow this court” and that this was “A clear attack on the court”. Parris is thr..."Proctor and Parris do not have a good relationship with each other. They dont have a very civil relationship, they never quit see eye to eye. Many times in this novel there are parts where proctor and parris are arguing with each other. Another part where parris is objecting proctor is on page 30 when parris states "there is either obedience or the church will burn like hell is burning!". Then proctor says "can you speak one minute without we land in hell again? I am sick of hell." Then parris proceeds with saying "It is not for you to say what is good for you to hear!". This shows that parris believes that she has more power over proctor and can just rule over him. She literally tells him that he cant be in charge of whats good for him.
Gabriella wrote: "On page 32 proctor said “your grandfather had a habit of willing land that never belonged to him, if I may say it plain”. Proctor was throwing shade at both Putnam and Putnams grandfather. He was s..."I strongly agree with this quote and i believe that in this same scenario Giles is also throwing shade at Putnam and Putnams grandfather because he is agreeing with proctor when he says "Lets get your lumber home John. I feel a sudden sense will to work coming on." He agrees with proctor that the land wasnt his grandfathers and that on a different occasion putnams grandfather willed away his north pasture. In addition to showing that Giles was helping Proctor throw shade at Putnam and Putnams grandfather it also shows the friendly relationship between Proctor and Giles.
Lili wrote: "Another example of a character throwing shade at another is when John Proctor is first introduced in the book. He says "Take it to heart, Mr. Parris. There are many others who stay away from church..."John Proctor knew from the beginning that Parris was trying to scam for money and wasn't an honest priest.
Kailee wrote: "It is clear that Proctor does not like Parris. Most people would keep there thoughts to themselves but Proctor does otherwise. He says he will not let his child be baptized by Parris because "I see..."This characterizes Proctor as a strong minded individual because he wasn't afraid to speak his mind. He let it be known that he disliked Parris.

