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message 1: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Help & Discussion


Museum 13. Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna


1. Location - Vienna, Austria
Task: Read a book set in Austria or written by an Austrian author.

2. About - Housed in its festive palatial building on Ringstraße, it is crowned with an octagonal dome.
Task: Read a book that has a geometric shape of circle, square, triangle, or rectangle on it. This task excludes moons or planet shapes as circles.

3. Collection - Mars, Venus and Amor
(view spoiler)
Task: Read a book that has a main page genre of romance.

4. Interactive item - about the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna
Task: Your choice based on your selection from the collection. Required - link to the picture and explain connection.


message 2: by Christina ❤️M❤️ (last edited Dec 06, 2020 08:37PM) (new)

Christina ❤️M❤️ (christir1159) | -1 comments Would The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes (The Hunger Games, #0) by Suzanne Collins work for geometric circle?


message 3: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Christina wrote: "Would The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes (The Hunger Games, #0) by Suzanne Collins work for geometric circle?"

Yes. That's a great example.


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Katrisa | 4570 comments For the circle task can it be a ring that is viewed at an angle?

The Power That Preserves (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, #3) by Stephen R. Donaldson


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Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Katrisa wrote: "For the circle task can it be a ring that is viewed at an angle?

The Power That Preserves (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, #3) by Stephen R. Donaldson"


Hmmmm.... I'm torn on that one. I think you can do better than that. So back to the drawing board.


message 6: by Kristie, Moderator (last edited Dec 15, 2020 03:06PM) (new)

Kristie | 19688 comments What if the ring is straight on? I'm guessing if it looks like a circle it's ok?

The Marriage Lie by Kimberly Belle


message 7: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Kristie wrote: "What if the ring is straight on? I'm guessing if it looks like a circle it's ok?

The Marriage Lie by Kimberly Belle"


Yes, that would be more acceptable.


message 8: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21509 comments I think I am confused by task 2. Is the requirement for a geometric shape ok if it is a single shape, or does it have to be multiple shapes? Is this want you want, Janice, or is this example what Rusalka was specifying for YOU on her interactive task? The Museum of Modern Love by Heather Rose or The Kind Worth Killing by Peter Swanson .

If single, would this watch apply for the circle? Somewhere In Time by Richard Matheson or this cup The Storyteller by Jodi Picoult or this lense The Crack in the Lens by Darlene A. Cypser ? What about this for a square/rectangle Caveat Emptor The Secret Life of an American Art Forger by Ken Perenyi ?


message 9: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments It can be multiple shapes.

I would prefer shapes rather than objects unless the object looks more "geometric". Your watch one doesn't work as well as the Jodi Picoult one because you sense more of the object than you do of the shape. Kristie's example looks more like a shape than a ring.

If you look at the cover and think 'circle' rather than 'watch', you're on the right track.

Does that make sense?

I'm reading Flight for this task.
Flight by Sherman Alexie


message 10: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Here's some more:

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes (The Hunger Games, #0) by Suzanne Collins One Word Kill (Impossible Times #1) by Mark Lawrence The Devil Aspect by Craig Russell Waiting for Columbus by Thomas Trofimuk


message 11: by Ayacchi (last edited Dec 16, 2020 12:08AM) (new)

Ayacchi | 1729 comments So I guess All the Bright Places - Tempat-Tempat Terang by Jennifer Niven fits the task?


message 12: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15795 comments I had to think of The Circle by Dave Eggers . I abandoned it though, so this is not a recommendation ;-)


message 13: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Ayacchi wrote: "So I guess All the Bright Places - Tempat-Tempat Terang by Jennifer Niven fits the task?"

Yes, it works.

I was scrolling through todays Kindle Deals and there was:
Earth Abides by George R. Stewart How to Manage Your Home Without Losing Your Mind Dealing with Your House's Dirty Little Secrets by Dana K. White


message 14: by Marie Claude (new)

Marie Claude (mariecg2001) | 1030 comments I was thinking about The Last Equation of Isaac Severy for task 2 (geometric shapes)

The Last Equation of Isaac Severy by Nova Jacobs


message 15: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Marie Claude wrote: "I was thinking about The Last Equation of Isaac Severy for task 2 (geometric shapes)

The Last Equation of Isaac Severy by Nova Jacobs"


That works.


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Shirley | 1537 comments Is this ok for geometric shape? I think it’s actually a shield so I’m not sure. The New Achilles by Christian Cameron


message 17: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Shirley wrote: "Is this ok for geometric shape? I think it’s actually a shield so I’m not sure. The New Achilles by Christian Cameron"

Yes. It will work.


message 18: by Jayme, Moderator (new)

Jayme | 4715 comments Hi Janice - for Task: Read a book that has a geometric shape of circle, square, triangle, or rectangle on it.
Are we limited to those geometric shapes? I was thinking about an octagon... You've Been Volunteered A Class Mom Novel by Laurie Gelman


message 19: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Sorry, Jayme. Reading the task again, it was specific to the named shapes. I checked to make sure I wasn't using them as examples.


message 20: by Jayme, Moderator (new)

Jayme | 4715 comments Janice wrote: "Sorry, Jayme. Reading the task again, it was specific to the named shapes. I checked to make sure I wasn't using them as examples."

No worries. I had a book chosen for this task that had a beautiful circle on it, but have since discovered that it is a very dark, depressing book. I can't do that right now, so I'm am strictly looking for and planning on reading fun, light, escapism reads for the first part of 2021. :)


message 21: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19688 comments Jayme wrote: "...I'm am strictly looking for and planning on reading fun, light, escapism reads for the first part of 2021. :) "

That's a good idea, Jayme. I should try to weave some lighter reads into my plans as well. I really enjoyed some of my lighter reads this year and think I'm more in the mood for those.


message 22: by Cherie (last edited Dec 22, 2020 01:28AM) (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21509 comments Thanks, Janice. I have a better idea of what you wanted now.

Apparently, covers with shapes vs things is not my thing. ;o)


message 23: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Cherie wrote: "Thanks, Janice. I have a better idea of what you wanted now.

Apparently, covers with shapes vs things is not my thing. ;o)"


Yeah, it could be one of those more conceptual type things.


message 24: by Viji (new)

Viji | 1595 comments 2. About -
Task: Read a book that has a geometric shape of circle, square, triangle, or rectangle on it.

Could The Rise of Sivagami (Baahubali Before the Beginning, #1) by Anand Neelakantan be used for this task? There are some rectangles and triangles but am not sure if these are the required ones.

Thanks.


message 25: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Viji wrote: "2. About -
Task: Read a book that has a geometric shape of circle, square, triangle, or rectangle on it.

Could The Rise of Sivagami (Baahubali Before the Beginning, #1) by Anand Neelakantan be used for this task? There are some rect..."


It's not the best example, but it would work.


message 26: by Viji (new)

Viji | 1595 comments Janice wrote: "Viji wrote: "2. About -
Task: Read a book that has a geometric shape of circle, square, triangle, or rectangle on it.

Could The Rise of Sivagami (Baahubali Before the Beginning, #1) by Anand Neelakantan be used for this task? There ..."


Thanks, Janice.


message 27: by Viji (new)

Viji | 1595 comments Museum 13. Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna
1. Location - Vienna, Austria
Task: Read a book set in Austria or written by an Austrian author.

Want to know if The Girl with the Golden Scissors by Julia Drosten would work for the task above.

The synopsis mentions:
"Christmas 1889. A baby is born in the early hours at Vienna General Hospital, only to be abandoned by her unwed mother and entrusted to a foundling home and its loving caretaker.

Fanny Schindler grows from a precocious girl into a strong-willed young woman. Undeterred by the rules of her station, she’s determined to rise above her humble origins and pursue her dreams at all costs, becoming an apprentice to one of the most glamorous fashion houses in Austria-Hungary. All the while, as Fanny searches for a sense of belonging, her path crosses with those of three people who will change her future. "

MPG lists this as Cultural > Hungary but it is tagged as Vienna twice in the first page of the Top Shelves (https://www.goodreads.com/work/shelve...)

I would also like to know if this would work for any other task if it does not fit this task. I am not sure about the language used in the 'About Julia Drosten'. It looks like German.

Thanks.


message 28: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19271 comments It is German, and I just right clicked n my Chrome window and hit Translate to English (or whatever your default language is). So I am not sure of the quality of the translation but it is:

"Julia Drosten

The author couple Horst and Julia Drosten live in the beautiful green Münsterland and have always had the desire to write books. Research is almost as much fun for both of them. They have already flown together in an old biplane, looked over the shoulder of a land butcher or let a beautician pamper them.

Her bestseller "The Lioness of Mogador" made it to number 1 of the historical novels on Amazon in June 2014.

Julia Drosten prefers to write historical novels. With "Die Honigprinzessin" you wrote a contemporary novel for the first time, which is about love, honey and entanglements in Berlin."


message 29: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Viji wrote: "Museum 13. Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna
1. Location - Vienna, Austria
Task: Read a book set in Austria or written by an Austrian author.

Want to know if [bookcover:The Girl with the Golden S..."


It looks like it will, but the book must be set 50% in the country specified. It may be one that you will need to read to make that determination. The authors, as Rusalka, pointed out are German, so you could use the book for Museum 32, location, where the author can be German.


message 30: by Viji (new)

Viji | 1595 comments Thanks a lot, Rusalka and Janice, for the help.

I have been looking for a book for the Museum 32, location task. As this book clearly fits this task, I would use this book for Museum 32, location task and find something else for the Museum 13, Location task.


message 31: by Viji (new)

Viji | 1595 comments The GR Book Main Page link: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...
mentions the Setting as -
German Democratic Republic (Germany)
Innsbruck (Austria)
for The Secret Crown (Payne & Jones, #6) by Chris Kuzneski .
Could this be used for the Location task:
Read a book set in Austria or written by an Austrian author ?

Thanks.


message 32: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15795 comments The book has to be set for 50% in Austria. You might have to read it to see if it qualifies.


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Annerlee | 2886 comments I'm thinking this might be ok for a geometric shape?

Night Film by Marisha Pessl


message 34: by Annerlee (new)

Annerlee | 2886 comments Peggy wrote: "The book has to be set for 50% in Austria. You might have to read it to see if it qualifies."

Ludwig II was a Bavarian King, so if they're looking for his treasure, I think the book is probably set mostly in Bavaria (Germany). I haven't read the book, so I can't say for sure.


message 35: by Annerlee (last edited Jan 21, 2021 04:22PM) (new)

Annerlee | 2886 comments It looks like I'll be visiting this museum, but the idea of reading a romance sends shudders down my spine. Anyone read a good (non-fluffy-soppy / non-classical) romance recently? Even better - a romance with elements of horror, gothic, sci-fi or slapstick? Or am I expecting too much?

(And NO - I am NOT reading another Mills and Boone, not even especially if it's written by a princess. I did that for a toppler challenge once - and still bear the emotional scars. I am not willing to repeat the experience (~UGGHRRGH~)

- sorry. It's past my bedtime. Getting grumpy. Going to turn in....


message 36: by Lanelle (last edited Jan 21, 2021 04:59PM) (new)

Lanelle | 4109 comments Annerlee wrote: "Anyone read a good (non-fluffy-soppy / non-classical) romance recently? Even better - a romance with elements of horror, gothic, sci-fi or slapstick?"

If I need to read a romance and am not in the mood for fluffy/soppy/gushy stuff, I turn to Georgette Heyer. Her historical books are classified as 'romance', but they are not the typical kind.

Some of my favorites are: The Unknown Ajax, The Toll-Gate, The Reluctant Widow and The Quiet Gentleman. They all have elements of mystery and adventure to them, and the last one has some Gothic tones to it. They are fun books, in my opinion :)


Christina ❤️M❤️ (christir1159) | -1 comments Annerlee wrote: "It looks like I'll be visiting this museum, but the idea of reading a romance sends shudders down my spine. Anyone read a good (non-fluffy-soppy / non-classical) romance recently? Even better - a r..."

I recently read Blue Dahlia. Yeah, there is some mush, but there is also a paranormal aspect.


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Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Annerlee wrote: "I'm thinking this might be ok for a geometric shape?

Night Film by Marisha Pessl"


Great choice!


message 39: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Annerlee wrote: "It looks like I'll be visiting this museum, but the idea of reading a romance sends shudders down my spine. Anyone read a good (non-fluffy-soppy / non-classical) romance recently? Even better - a r..."

Here's a couple of YA, LBGT reads - Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe and I'll Give You the Sun.


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Peggy (pebbles84) | 15795 comments I've read several books that are shelved as romance but are definitely not those sappy cheesy shuddery books with those typical romantic covers! I think they get shelved that way because people do fall in love in the book, but that's about it.

I'll have a look for specific titles later, but they're not gothic or scifi so not sure if you're helped with this.


message 41: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15795 comments Later has come very soon ;-)

I read a couple of historical fiction books recently that also say 'romance' on the main page, but I would not shelve them as such myself
Daughter of Fortune
The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo (looks to be a group read next month too)
Blackberry & Wild Rose

I think there are plenty like this, you might even have some on your tbr!

Like I said, I'm not into romance at all, but I did enjoy these 2 books, which are more chicklit and feel good
The Flatshare
The Switch


message 42: by Annerlee (new)

Annerlee | 2886 comments Thank you for your 'romantic but not slushy' suggestions. Some of the historical novels sound interesting. I think I'll be able to find something after all 😅


message 43: by Annerlee (new)

Annerlee | 2886 comments Janice wrote: "Annerlee wrote: "I'm thinking this might be ok for a geometric shape?

Night Film by Marisha Pessl"

Great choice!"


That's cool. It's been on my tbr for an age and the challenge has prompted me to finally pick it up. I have it on audiobook and ebook, but the narrator is so good, I think I'll be sticking with audio.
It's excellent so far... Feeling all creeped out already and I'm not sure why. I think this will be my kind of book...


message 44: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments I enjoyed the story, Annerlee. It earned 4 stars from me.


message 45: by Katrisa (last edited Jan 22, 2021 08:51PM) (new)

Katrisa | 4570 comments Annerlee wrote: "It looks like I'll be visiting this museum, but the idea of reading a romance sends shudders down my spine. Anyone read a good (non-fluffy-soppy / non-classical) romance recently? Even better - a r..."

I don't know if you like fantasy/paranormal books, but I also hate "romance" books but really enjoyed the Mercy Thompson books (Moon Called is the first) and they are all tagged as romance.

Also - the covers turned me off from reading them - but I ended up reading the whole series with my husband and neither of us can tolerate "romance"


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Cherie (crobins0) | 21509 comments Lanelle wrote: "If I need to read a romance and am not in the mood for fluffy/soppy/gushy stuff, I turn to Georgette Heyer. Her historical books are classified as 'romance', but they are not the typical kind..."

Too funny, Lanelle. I have not read her yet, but I have five of her books on my TBR list. I think all of those you noted are there plus one other. I seem to have collected them for other challenges.


message 47: by Cherie (last edited Jan 23, 2021 12:31AM) (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21509 comments Katrisa wrote: "I don't know if you like fantasy/paranormal books, but I also hate "romance" books but really enjoyed the Mercy Thompson books (Moon Called is the first) and they are all tagged as romance.

Also - the covers turned me off from reading them - but I ended up reading the whole series with my husband and neither of us can tolerate "romance" ..."


Annerlee - I agree with Katrisa on the Mercy Thompson series books. I read them all!

Personally, I like Nicholas Sparks books for my romance reads. So many of his books have been made into movies.


message 48: by Katrisa (last edited Jan 23, 2021 06:57AM) (new)

Katrisa | 4570 comments Would
Outliers The Story of Success by Malcolm Gladwell
work for circle on cover?


message 49: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60637 comments Katrisa wrote: "Would
Outliers The Story of Success by Malcolm Gladwell
work for circle on cover?"


No, sorry. There are a couple of reasons. They look like objects (marbles) and not like a circle. They are in circular shape, but they're too 3-D. The other factor is that they are not prominent and not the focus of the cover.


message 50: by Katrisa (last edited Jan 23, 2021 12:17PM) (new)

Katrisa | 4570 comments How about this one for circles?
The Future We Choose Surviving the Climate Crisis by Christiana Figueres
or
A Deadly Education (The Scholomance, #1) by Naomi Novik


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