Political Debates discussion

here are some links to what’s going on in the capitol right now:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politi...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-...

what are everyone’s thoughts?

This is just Trump supporters acting like 3 year olds

we have a new update. 1 person has been shot and 5 injured so far.

Vibe Raccoon wrote: "It's so funny how conservatives bash the BLM movement for those few violent protests, but this happens.

Because sometimes things are just so contradictory that it's funny."

i know right. the hypocrisy.

i actually live in dc (it’s why i’m so interested in politics), and everyone is on a 6pm curfew

Vibe Raccoon wrote: "sofia wrote: "i actually live in dc (it’s why i’m so interested in politics), and everyone is on a 6pm curfew"

Bruh

Wow"

the metro and buses are being shut down as well. it is crazy.

one explosive device has been found near the capitol. it is no longer a threat.

Mel wrote: "stay safe Sofia!"

thank you. it’s not like i actually ever leave the house though so i think i’ll be fine 😭✋

Mel wrote: "I might move to Canada"

or new zealand

✧sunrisepoet✧2021 wrote: "i will literally move to europe in a matter of seconds if trump goes any farther. btw, i already have my suitcase packed"

HAHAHA

✧sunrisepoet✧2021 wrote: "i will literally move to europe in a matter of seconds if trump goes any farther. btw, i already have my suitcase packed"

I'LL COME WITH YOU.

new jersey state police are currently on the way to assist with the riots

1100 people from the national guard are also on their way

Vibe Raccoon wrote: "Bruh trump actually encouraged them to come protest

geez"

fr

tear gas is now being used.

this is f'cking insane

a woman has been shot

I'm just as upset as you guys, they shouldn't have gone into the capitol or resorted to violence and I don't think that it was ok. But do you know why they are doing it and who's undercover in the mob?

before anyone comes out with the whole “it was antifa undercover as trump supporters” please acknowledge that this argument has been debunked. those were al, real trumpet supporters, not undercover people trying to put trump supporters in a bad light.

No, they are doing it because they are fed up with the Democratic Leftists on capital hill. They are tired of having to deal with voter fraud. If Joe Biden really didn't cheat, he would be trying to prove people wrong instead of covering everything up with lies. How do you explain the 3am spike of votes 100% Biden in 4 different states at the same time after the polls were closed. And the news just released that Antifa gang members were 'undercover' in the mob. And yes there were Antifa gang members among the Trump supporters.

it was not antifa. the fact that people actually believe that is ridiculous .

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fa...

What news source did she get it from?

Vibe Raccoon wrote: "The spike in votes was because most people who voted for Biden did mail in ballots that showed up later. It was predicted that that was how things would go."

No the mail in ballots came in earlier and they wouldn't do it when the polls were closed. Did you even see the video of the suitcases being taken out?

It wasn't on youtube, it was on the news too, I guess yours didn't show it.

That's why I took a run, It is insane.

Guys, please. No matter what their reasons were, they shouldn’t be doing it. If these were blm protestors, I guarantee cops would be firing at them. Instead, some of the cops were taking SELFIES with them. (That might not be true, I juts saw it on Instagram, but still. The cops aren’t trying to stop them that much and yk how violent that’d be if that was a blm protest?)

And then, the reason they did it is not okay at all, either. They are doing for voter fraud, and it has already been PROVEN there was no voter fraud.

I agree, they had no reason to burst into the capital and cause violence and conflict. But the voter fraud does exist. Who told you otherwise?

Yes, I know voter fraud exists. But Biden did not gain votes from voter fraud. And I get my sources from all the websites everyone in the last group gave. From both sides. I can’t list them because the old group got deleted, and even if it didn’t I don’t really want to return to that place, it was very toxic in the end. If you’d like, I can list some this week if I find some. Who told you voter fraud exists? Your pro-Trump parents? YouTube?

Actually several news sights. (I will list them in the comment below) And you tube sensors the truth (as well as Cnn, cnbc, nyt, twitter, facebook, nbc...) Both me and my parents are pro conservative, pro life, pro guns, and pro God. Trump shares the same views as us and he actually cares about America.

Did you just say Trump cares about America? Yeah, he cares about getting money from America.

Charlene wrote: "Actually several news sights. (I will list them in the comment below) And you tube sensors the truth (as well as Cnn, cnbc, nyt, twitter, facebook, nbc...) Both me and my parents are pro conservati..."

do you believe that trump respects women and truly embodies christian values?

This whole thing is just ridiculous to me. if this was a blm protest, police would be using tear gas and rubber pellets.
A woman has been shot, and she was reported dead at the hospital. This is ridiculous. And now I read an article and Fox News called this 'a peaceful protest'
peaceful my ass.

Really? He doesn't love America? Then why did he create another branch of the military? Why did he build a wall to keep the illegal immigrants out? Why would he be fighting against the election? If Joe biden won fairly, he would go on like all the other presidents, but Joe Biden cheated and lied. If joe biden had nothing to hide then show us what's on your laptop (hunter's)

Trump supports America WAY MORE than you think. Your news just doesn't tell you that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_bCN...

Charlene wrote: "Really? He doesn't love America? Then why did he create another branch of the military? Why did he build a wall to keep the illegal immigrants out? Why would he be fighting against the election? If..."
the wall was a waste of money. Maybe if america made their borders easier to pass through legally, we wouldnt have as many illegal immigration. and most illegal ones are PEOPLE FLEEING FROM THEIR COUNTRIES BECAUSE THEY ARE IN FEAR OF THEIR LIVES! People who claim to be 'pro life' are okay with people being SLAUGHTERED in their countries because they are different?

Then how would you like a president who doesn't care about America or you and only cares about undoing it all together? Do you want a president who will put in communism, another lock down, and open our borders wide open so more terrorist groups and illegals come in? If you do then vote joe biden .

trump is more concerned with himself than america.

Em J. wrote: "Trump is evil, pure evil. And I truly don’t get how people don’t see that."
trump's literally the reason why im ashamed to be in america, we are literally a joke to everyone else

Charlene wrote: "Really? He doesn't love America? Then why did he create another branch of the military? Why did he build a wall to keep the illegal immigrants out? Why would he be fighting against the election? If..."

So Charlene, what do you think about the BLM protest? Were they just angry people who went around tearing things down and Trump just so gracefully came in and threw tear gas at the protesters so the "madness" could stop? Or what about climate change? You really think this crusty old man who couldn't care less about his own fans and actually wants a better planet? Of course, he doesn't. And did you hear about the money Trump was collecting for some "Voter fraud" fund? I saw on multiple trustworthy news sources that Trump used a large amount of that money for himself and not the fund he was supposedly "fighting for". These were just a couple of reasons the top off my head on why I don't like despise Trump. But trust me hontey, there are many more reasons.

Before this group was started, on other threads, I criticized ANTIFA, BLM, Proud Boys and so forth. I am criticizing this protest too. This is bad.

This is a protest. It’s a riot. It’s a mob.

These riots are horrible! There are even people who managed to break into the White House!

and what anger me even more is at blm protests, police officers were brutally assaulting people, hitting them with batons and other horrible things AT A PEACEFUL PROTEST.
But this violent mob is walked calmly and gently down the steps by police officers.
the majority of police forces are just f*cked up.

This is an absolute shit show, and here's why:

Like BringerOfBooks said, BLM protesters are assaulted, shot with pepper sprayers, and other violent actions. BLM protests are peaceful. Then, a violent mob smashes windows, breaks through doors, shoots a woman and kills her, and is calmly walked out of the building. I see the logic here.

It's incredible to me how stupid and ignorant people are when they can't see the facts. If you call this "peaceful," please go reevaluate your life. This is how fucked up American government is right now. It's ridiculous.

It really is. this is why, every single day, I become more and more disappointed in the nation we have become.

ah jaiden i tried to send you a fiend request but it got cut off. do you mind accepting me?

thank you!!

@charlene oh dear. that’s a large number of news sites spreading “fake news” that you listed there. tell me, isn’t the simplest explanation usually true? and if that’s the case, why can’t you accept that the news is true and that biden won?

If he can prove he won fairly then I will accept it. Why on earth do you think those protesters were outside. (along with some gang members........more evidence is being found) They are FED UP with how the left is cheating and covering up the truth and lying. We were patient when the riots in the summer were going on destroying our cities. We can always rebuild. We were patient when the electoral ballots were being counted. Election day is on the 4th. When they said Joe Biden won, we knew something was up. Spike in voting at 3 am in different states when polls closed, suitcases from under the tables, 100% for Biden, not one for Trump. We have evidence of voter fraud, the left just doesn't want to accept that their political parties leaders cheated. And if joe biden gets into office (we still have 13 days to provide people with facts that they cheated) there will be chaos in the nation. Do you really want more time away from your loved ones, your friends, you really want time away from living? If joe really didn't cheat, then show us what's on your laptop. Prove to the country you didn't cheat. It's like in An Enemy of the People. We are trying to tell you that something's not right, but you just turn your head and cover it up or pretend nothing's wrong. So No Bumble I will not accept, the media doesn't decide the president. No matter what the news says, Trump is still my president and I will continue to fight for him.

Oh my gods.
They looked, and found nothing, absolutely nothing, that proves that he did anything to rig the election.
Yet some people decided to be irrationally violent to try and stop him.

There will be more if joe is in office. Lockdowns, Illegals coming in, no protection, dissolving the military, green new deal. He will undue all the good in this country.