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message 1: by Kailee (new)

Kailee Tetrault | 28 comments What appeals are made and are they effective?


message 2: by Gabriella (new)

Gabriella Modica | 27 comments The main appeal made in this episode is an appeal to pathos. This is because the girls gave very in depth details about the murder and the situation. For example, they gave the details about how Jamal decided on how and why he was going to murder the girl and the exact story, such as him being invoked by her ideas of divorce. They gave the details about the following investigation, even involving Jamal's brothers involvement to the case. They gave the story of the fire and how Jamal got away with it. This horrifying situation appeals to pathos because the listeners feel bad and are disturbed for the girl. The story and the social activism aspect of this murder is what makes the listener so connected and upset and emotional around this issue. The appeal to pathos created is very effective in this episode.


message 3: by Kailee (new)

Kailee Tetrault | 28 comments Not only did this episode appeal to pathos but it made the listener question logos that kept occurring, or should I say lack there of. It made the listener question what was the logic and reason? But in reality there was none. Co hosts Ashley Flowers and Britt Prawat bring to light the little logic that was used in these scenarios. The culprit ultimately came forward and confessed to the crime. And what was most concerning was that they didn’t have a motive, or at least not a clear one.


message 4: by Vincent (new)

Vincent Ziccardi | 23 comments It appeals to peoples desire to hear horror stories endings. These podcasts all attract viewers because they create a suspenseful story. This story in particular also makes us feel bad for the wife that she was murdered by the husband but also makes it suspenseful by including extra details. Without the suspense, horror, and the story actually being real it would not appeal to such a large audience.


message 5: by Emily (new)

Emily Scheibly | 29 comments Kailee wrote: "Not only did this episode appeal to pathos but it made the listener question logos that kept occurring, or should I say lack there of. It made the listener question what was the logic and reason? B..."

The fact that the killer confessed and was sick enough to have no reason to kill her and just did really appeal to pathos because it makes you feel terrified and disturbed. Since he had no real reason that was good enough to kill her makes you terrified because theyre could be so many people out there as sick as this an that have no reason to kill except for the pleasure of it. It also makes you scared if you are a women because the idea is based around the growing issue of femicide in Turkey.


message 6: by Emily (new)

Emily Scheibly | 29 comments The main appeal that are made throughout this episode that make it effective is pathos. The pathos in this podcast make the listener so intrigued in the episode. When they talk about having to file a missing person's report and someone because off about the whole situation is terrifying and makes you want to hear what happened to her. It makes it even more terrifying because its a girl who went missing and usually in these situations they don't end well. In addition this episode through pathos creates a very mysterious, questionable tone. When the hosts talk about the police questioning Jamal about going to the gas station not to get gas but to get two gas cans, you feel the need to keep listening to know why he is going to get them, you become very curious. It makes you feel disturbed because of the fact that this man killed his wife and that she trusted him and felt safe with him. It makes you question who you can actually trust.


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Emily Scheibly | 29 comments Gabriella wrote: "The main appeal made in this episode is an appeal to pathos. This is because the girls gave very in depth details about the murder and the situation. For example, they gave the details about how Ja..."

I agree with the idea that the social activism really makes you feel emotionally connected with the issue. It makes you feel extremely connected because you see all of these stories on social media about these horrible crimes committed to these women and it makes you feel pity for them and it also makes you feel a sense of unsafely because you yourself are a women. Since this trend of crimes committed to women in Turkey was all over social media you feel very knowledgeable about the idea since it was everywhere and because of this it makes you feel disgusted because of how many women this has happened to and that most of the men prob were not caught and aren't getting the punishment that they should have got.


message 8: by Gabriella (new)

Gabriella Modica | 27 comments Emily wrote: "The main appeal that are made throughout this episode that make it effective is pathos. The pathos in this podcast make the listener so intrigued in the episode. When they talk about having to file..."

I really agree with what Emily said. I think that pathos was the most effective appeal they made especially the part where they filed the missing persons report. This is because most people know how after 24 hours of a missing person was reported they are most likely to be found dead. This makes the listener very scared and on the edge of their seat to hear what happens next.


message 9: by Reid (new)

Reid Paoli | 24 comments The appeal made in this podcast is pathos. This whole situation connects back to women's rights. This story lead to a whole movement on social media. This movement went through all social media. This sparked emotions because a women was murdered because she was mad at the man. The rate of femiiscited, 474 women killed in 2019 because this a women. This story made me sick just because of a persons gender does not mean they should be killed.


message 10: by Reid (new)

Reid Paoli | 24 comments Kailee wrote: "Not only did this episode appeal to pathos but it made the listener question logos that kept occurring, or should I say lack there of. It made the listener question what was the logic and reason? B..."
You made me look at this podcast in another way. at first I didn't hear the logos but after a little bit I definitely picked up what you were putting down.Also the motive part really makes me angry, how can you take a life for no reason.


message 11: by Jake (new)

Jake Pace (jakepace) | 20 comments Mod
This story made a strong appeal to pathos. It went in depth about a girl who went missing and was killed just because someone felt like it. because their was no motive it was very disturbing and showed that crazy people are out in the world and it makes you realize that anyone, especially women, should be careful when going out.


message 12: by Reid (new)

Reid Paoli | 24 comments Vincent wrote: "It appeals to peoples desire to hear horror stories endings. These podcasts all attract viewers because they create a suspenseful story. This story in particular also makes us feel bad for the wife..."
to piggy back off that idea... The amount of detail and facts these two women present is great. they make their listeners want more and more and I cant blame them. After this story I'm ready for more podcasts, and that's how they draw in more listeners.


message 13: by Jake (new)

Jake Pace (jakepace) | 20 comments Mod
Emily wrote: "The main appeal that are made throughout this episode that make it effective is pathos. The pathos in this podcast make the listener so intrigued in the episode. When they talk about having to file..."

I strongly agree. The idea that even the people you feel like you can trust can betray you is very scary. By listening to this it showed to me that you have to always be careful of who you hang out with as well as be careful of your surroundings because it is very easy to end up in a bad situation.


message 14: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Burke | 24 comments The main appeal in this episode defintely focuses on pathos. It can evoke emotion due to the fact its telling the story of a young girl who went missing and also goes on to tell a twisted story about a man killing his wife. A person who may be sensitive could definitely be affected by this story because it leaves the listener with a very disturbed feeling. He even eventually revealed he was guilty and admitted to killing her with no motive. These specific details make the podcast that much more disturbing but very interesting to many people because again It is such an eye opener


message 15: by Vincent (new)

Vincent Ziccardi | 23 comments Jake wrote: "Emily wrote: "The main appeal that are made throughout this episode that make it effective is pathos. The pathos in this podcast make the listener so intrigued in the episode. When they talk about ..."
I agree with what you said and I also feel it appealed to pathos very effectively. The emotions this podcast successful evoke are horror, disgust, and a little fear. The stories are purposefully trying to do this and the fact the listeners feel these emotions means they were successful


message 16: by Vincent (new)

Vincent Ziccardi | 23 comments Gabriella wrote: "The main appeal made in this episode is an appeal to pathos. This is because the girls gave very in depth details about the murder and the situation. For example, they gave the details about how Ja..."
I agree and all the details are what make the appeals. If we were just told about the murder most people who probably be disturbed. But the fact that the podcast tells the reasoning behind the murder, the wife wanting a divorce, and the way he did it makes it more disturbing.


message 17: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Burke | 24 comments Emily wrote: "The main appeal that are made throughout this episode that make it effective is pathos. The pathos in this podcast make the listener so intrigued in the episode. When they talk about having to file..."

I like how you put this. Social media acitivsm is a very current practice and exposes many current issues in the world that would not have reached audiences it could without social media. Media activism for sure evokes the emotions of viewers which could result in more people striving for change. The several crimes committed against woman in turkey were exposed through the internet and reached several peoples emotions. this episode exposes how common it is for women in countries foreign to us go through these horrible experiences where in many cases they do not get saved or even heard of.


message 18: by Lili (new)

Lili Marcus | 38 comments The main rhetorical appeal in this podcast is pathos. You feel two emotions in this podcast: fear and empowerment. While the speakers tell the story of the two murders in detail, listeners become engulfed in unease. However, as a woman hearing about this movement against femicide, you feel happy. This is effective because listeners are feeling different kinds of emotions because of their appeal of pathos.


message 19: by Lili (new)

Lili Marcus | 38 comments Jake wrote: "This story made a strong appeal to pathos. It went in depth about a girl who went missing and was killed just because someone felt like it. because their was no motive it was very disturbing and sh..."
I agree. Listening to this podcast, I was scared by how in depth they went. Knowing that there is people in this world that kill with no motive, frightens me and many other listeners.


message 20: by Lili (new)

Lili Marcus | 38 comments Jessica wrote: "The main appeal in this episode defintely focuses on pathos. It can evoke emotion due to the fact its telling the story of a young girl who went missing and also goes on to tell a twisted story abo..."

Yes! I think that the speakers also make the appeal of Logos. By telling these gruesome facts about this case, the speakers open up many peoples eyes. The speakers talk about the strangulation and burning of Panar in full detail. They give these facts in order to spread awareness about women being killed because they are WOMEN.


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