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message 1: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments I like this thread in a book group, and I didn't see one here.

Please share what you brought home via the library, bookstore, or online.


message 2: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments I will start. I grabbed a Lee biography at the library:

Reading the Man A Portrait of Robert E. Lee Through His Private Letters by Elizabeth Brown Pryor by Elizabeth Brown Pryor

And bought these:

The Fall of the House of Dixie The Civil War and the Social Revolution That Transformed the South by Bruce Levine by Bruce Levine

Glory Enough for All Sheridan's Second Raid and the Battle of Trevilian Station by Eric J. Wittenberg by Eric J. Wittenberg

I live pretty close tto the Battle of Trevilian history area, so I might stop by.


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Porter Broyles | 210 comments I got a few books for Father's Day:

1) Galveston and the Civil War: An Island City in the Maelstrom

2_ Forget the Alamo: The True Story of the Myth That Made Texas

3) Runaway America: Benjamin Franklin, Slavery, and the American Revolution

4. Balloon Twister Origins by Ralph Dewey (Yeah, I know nobody else has heard of him, but in the twister community he's a big deal.)


message 4: by Dan (last edited Jun 22, 2021 09:49AM) (new)

Dan | The Ancient Reader (theancientreader) Currently checked out from the Albuquerque/Bernalillo County library:

Battle of Glorieta Pass The Colorado Volunteers in the Civil War by William Whitford by William Clarke Whitford

Civil War in the Southwest Recollections of the Sibley Brigade by Jerry D. Thompson edited by Jerry Thompson

The Civil War In The American West by Alvin M. Josephy Jr. by Alvin M Josephy Jr.

The Civil War in Arizona The Story of the California Volunteers, 1861–1865 by Andrew E. Masich by Andrew E. Masich

A Civil War History of the New Mexico Volunteers and Militia by Jerry D. Thompson by Jerry D. Thompson

Ordered West The Civil War Exploits of Charles A. Curtis by Alan D. Gaff edited by Alan D. Gaff

Glory, Glory, Glorieta The Gettysburg of the West by Robert Scott by Robert Scott

Empire and Liberty The Civil War and the West by Virginia Scharff edited by Virginia Scharff

The Earth Is Weeping The Epic Story of the Indian Wars for the American West by Peter Cozzens by Peter Cozzens

Spearhead An American Tank Gunner, His Enemy, and a Collision of Lives In World War II by Adam Makos by Adam Makos

Also have one on hold and on "In Transit" to my branch:

Between Two Fires American Indians in the Civil War by Laurence M. Hauptman by Laurence M. Hauptman

Rebels on the Rio Grande The Civil War Journal of A.B. Peticolas by Don E. Alberts by Don E. Alberts


message 5: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments Some great hauls, everyone! Good to see so many titles on the CW and the West.


message 6: by Mike (new)

Mike | 166 comments That's a pretty comprehensive list of Southwest Civil War histories Dan. You will definitely be the expert here on southwestern operations after finishing that pile!


message 7: by Dan (new)

Dan | The Ancient Reader (theancientreader) Mike wrote: "That's a pretty comprehensive list of Southwest Civil War histories Dan. You will definitely be the expert here on southwestern operations after finishing that pile!"

Thanks, Mike. The more books I read, the more I realize how much there was going on out here and how little I really know about it. I've got sixteen books on the topic (from very general to very specific) under my belt so far with these nine to add. Then there's the twenty-one "library use only" books at the Special Collections branch of the library. And that's not counting what I might find at the Center for Southwest Research and Special Collections at UNM. Should keep me busy for a while.

I'm finding as I get closer to primary sources just how much the perspective and consensus on what did and didn't happen has changed with the passage of time. As one basic example, Whitford's book (published in 1902) states as fact that Canby and Sibley were brothers-in-law whereas more recent books all mention the contemporary belief that they were, but then point out that they were in fact not. It's definitely an interesting area to delve into, especially living in Albuquerque, as I do.


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Magooz | 117 comments Fwiw, I've yet to complete a book about TCW that was written in this millenium . hmmm

I live in the South & have a few good used bookstores in town - I kinda like a book to reach out from the shelf and grab me . and often find my interests going every which way :) ...

Latest pickups ..

The Untold Civil War by James Robertson
The Land of Contrasts 1880-1901 - edited by Neil Harris
The Civil War Book of Lists - combined authors
Encyclopedia of The Civil War - edited by Patricia Faust

First & last entries in the encyclopedia are 'abatis' & 'zouave' ,,
2 quatloos for anyone that knows what each of those are (I knew one of the two :)


message 9: by Magooz (new)

Magooz | 117 comments Dan wrote: "Mike wrote: "That's a pretty comprehensive list of Southwest Civil War histories Dan. You will definitely be the expert here on southwestern operations after finishing that pile!"

Thanks, Mike. Th..."


Ever think of writing Dan? [imo] You're accumulating a great deal of semi-specialized knowledge that is gonna need more than a discussion group to explode upon one day :)

Many people have written fiction books that can be strongly rooted in factual circumstances . they often put a fictional character [or three] in amongst actual historical characters and/or places and let their imagination weave a few possibilities ...

Could be a path to consider


message 10: by 'Aussie Rick' (last edited Jul 19, 2021 04:47PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments My copy of "The Boy Generals" arrived today and I was slightly disappointed. I paid over $50 (Australian) for a copy of this new book which was listed at 480 pages, so I was expecting a substantial sized book. Its only 372 pages in length (342 narrative). I've corrected the page count in GD's and sent an e-mail off to the seller. I should have checked at the publishers page were the page count is correctly listed. I will make sure I do that next time.

The Boy Generals George Custer, Wesley Merritt, and the Cavalry of the Army of the Potomac by Adolfo Ovies The Boy Generals: George Custer, Wesley Merritt, and the Cavalry of the Army of the Potomac by Adolfo Ovies


message 11: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 516 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "My copy of "The Boy Generals" arrived today and I was slightly disappointed. I paid over $50 (Australian) for a copy of this new book which was listed at 480 pages, so I was expecting a substantial..."

I am not impressed with the publications of Savas Beatie.


message 12: by Mike (new)

Mike | 166 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "My copy of "The Boy Generals" arrived today and I was slightly disappointed. I paid over $50 (Australian) for a copy of this new book which was listed at 480 pages, so I was expecting a substantial..."

A darn shame AR. I hope what is there is a good account.


message 13: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments I'm hoping its a good story Mike, its picked up some very positive reviews.

Another thing the publisher Savas Beatie tends to do is break authors books up into a series of 3-4 titles so you have to spend a fair bit of money to get the full story.


message 14: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments Sorry to hear that, AR. I do hope the book is good.

Another good book database is Worldcat:

https://www.worldcat.org/

You can browse different additions and librarians depend on it.


message 15: by Gary (new)

Gary (folionut) | 55 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I'm hoping its a good story Mike, its picked up some very positive reviews.

Another thing the publisher Savas Beatie tends to do is break authors books up into a series of 3-4 titles so you have ..."


That's just a fraudulent trick in my opinion. I will look out for that publisher and never buy anything they publish. Thanks for the heads up, AR.


MaryAnn (EmilyD1037) Lincoln's Melancholy: How Depression Challenged a President and Fueled His Greatness

Picked this up today on Kindle. Hope it is worth the read.

Many more I need to put on here, but need to wait for another day!


message 17: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments Its well worth checking out some of their books but you need to check and make sure that its not the first in a series of volumes, but I do agree with you that it seems like a trick to get you to part with more of your money.


message 18: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments MaryAnn (EmilyD1037) wrote: "Lincoln's Melancholy: How Depression Challenged a President and Fueled His Greatness ..."

I found this book very interesting. I enjoyed it.


message 19: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments I was watching the American Battlefield Trust's videos on the 160th anniversay of the First Battle of Bull Run.

So, I picked up:

The Early Morning of War Bull Run, 1861 by Edward G. Longacre by Edward G. Longacre

The First Battle of Manassas An End to Innocence, July 18-21, 1861 by John J. Hennessy by John J. Hennessy


message 20: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments Nice acquisitions Bryan. I really enjoyed "The Early Morning of War: Bull Run, 1861" by Edward G. Longacre. Its my favourite book so far on the Battle of Bull Run.


message 21: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Nice acquisitions Bryan. I really enjoyed "The Early Morning of War: Bull Run, 1861" by Edward G. Longacre. Its my favourite book so far on the Battle of Bull Run."

Great, AR. It's funny to read about the inexperience of these commanders and soldiers, especially reading the Overland Campaign.


message 22: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments The Overland Campaign was a hard teacher for those uninitiated in war!


message 23: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 167 comments I would say the Overland Campaign was a hard teacher when it came to war--period! Just look at the mistakes made at Cold Harbor.


message 24: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 516 comments Betsy wrote: "I would say the Overland Campaign was a hard teacher when it came to war--period! Just look at the mistakes made at Cold Harbor."

Perhaps the Overland Campaign makes a statement about the value of a war of attrition for the side with vastly superior resources?

Bloody, costly, but a route to earlier victory.


message 25: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments Yeah, the Overland Campaign was very bloody and brutal. I read at Bull Run that troops would march just for a few hours, pick berries, etc. You compare this to the hard marching Grant did in Virginia in the spring of 1864. So different.


MaryAnn (EmilyD1037) Today I picked up two books:

Personal Memoirs by Ulysses S. Grant
From Slavery to Freedom by John Hope Franklin


message 29: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments MaryAnn (EmilyD1037) wrote: "Today I picked up two books:

Personal Memoirs by Ulysses S. Grant
From Slavery to Freedom by John Hope Franklin"


Nicely done! I am yet to read Grant's memoirs, maybe one day soon.


message 30: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments Great books, everyone.

AR, the Battle of Big Bethel: Crucial Clash in Early Civil War Virginia looks really interesting! I will have to add this to the TBR pile.

It is interesting to read about the early stages of fighting.

I really like the Grant memoir in my library: The Annotated Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant


message 31: by Porter (new)

Porter Broyles | 210 comments I know it isn't a Civil War book, but this is AFAIK, the best group to share my excitement on picking up this book: Most Secret and Confidential: Intelligence in the Age of Nelson

How were secrets sent by navy back in the day. It might not be directly Civil War, but the ideas presented here were probably valid during the Civil War.


message 32: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 167 comments Just purchased ROBERT E. LEE AND ME: A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause.


message 33: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 516 comments Betsy wrote: "Just purchased ROBERT E. LEE AND ME: A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause."

That's been well reviewed, Betsy.


message 34: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments That sounds like a very interesting book Betsy, I make have to consider getting a copy myself.

Robert E. Lee and Me A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause by Ty Seidule Robert E. Lee and Me: A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause by Ty Seidule


message 35: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments Betsy wrote: "Just purchased ROBERT E. LEE AND ME: A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause."

Just ordered a copy :)


message 36: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 167 comments It seemed a good time to read it considering all the controversy over anything to do with the Confederacy, and none more so than REL.


message 37: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments I checked out the contents at Amazon and also a few online reviews and it looks very interesting and I will be keen to read my copy once it arrives.


message 38: by Betsy (last edited Sep 26, 2021 05:49PM) (new)

Betsy | 167 comments I am nearly half done with the book, and so far it is mostly the personal history of the author growing up in the South. Robert E. Lee is mentioned only occasionally. Perhaps that will change as we move along.


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David Gillespie (davidwgillespie) | 1 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "That sounds like a very interesting book Betsy, I make have to consider getting a copy myself.

Robert E. Lee and Me A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause by Ty Seidule[b..."
I just got it on sale!


message 40: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments I got it on my Kindle after someone I knew read it, and he really liked it.


message 41: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments Arrived today in the mail:

Robert E. Lee A Life by Allen C. Guelzo Robert E. Lee: A Life by Allen C. Guelzo


message 42: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments This book arrived today to finish off my set of Civil War books by Richard Wheeler. I really enjoy his books, not only by the way he tells the story but also his use of numerous B&W sketches and drawings to illustrate his account.

Witness to Appomattox by Richard Wheeler Witness to Appomattox by Richard Wheeler


message 43: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments Interesting, AR! I donated some money to help save some land at the Vicksburg battlefield. So, the organization sent me:

Triumph and Defeat The Vicksburg Campaign by Terrence J. Winschel by Terrence J. Winschel


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Gary (folionut) | 55 comments Bryan wrote: "Interesting, AR! I donated some money to help save some land at the Vicksburg battlefield. So, the organization sent me:

Triumph and Defeat The Vicksburg Campaign by Terrence J. Winschel by [author:T..."


That's great, Bryan, and a nice gesture from them for your generosity.


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Gary (folionut) | 55 comments Bryan wrote: "Interesting, AR! I donated some money to help save some land at the Vicksburg battlefield. So, the organization sent me:

Triumph and Defeat The Vicksburg Campaign by Terrence J. Winschel by [author:T..."


That's great, Bryan, and a nice gesture from them for your generosity.


message 46: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments Bryan wrote: "Interesting, AR! I donated some money to help save some land at the Vicksburg battlefield. So, the organization sent me:

Triumph and Defeat The Vicksburg Campaign by Terrence J. Winschel by [author:T..."


That's a very nice thing to do and very nice of them to acknowledge your generosity!


message 47: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments Went to the American Civil War Museum in downtown Richmond, Virginia. I had to go book shopping:

The Richmond Campaign of 1862 The Peninsula and the Seven Days by Gary W. Gallagher by Gary W. Gallagher

Meade and Lee After Gettysburg The Forgotten Final Stage of the Gettysburg Campaign, from Falling Waters to Culpeper Court House, July 14-31, 1863 by Jeffrey Wm Hunt Meade and Lee at Bristoe Station The Problems of Command and Strategy After Gettysburg, from Brandy Station to the Buckland Races, August 1 to October 31, 1863 by Jeffrey Wm Hunt Meade and Lee at Rappahannock Station The Army of the Potomac's First Post-Gettysburg Offensive, from Kelly's Ford to the Rapidan, October 21 to November 20, 1863 by Jeffrey Wm Hunt by Jeffrey Wm Hunt


message 48: by Manray9 (last edited Oct 26, 2021 12:03PM) (new)

Manray9 | 516 comments Bryan wrote: "Went to the American Civil War Museum in downtown Richmond, Virginia. I had to go book shopping:

The Richmond Campaign of 1862 The Peninsula and the Seven Days by Gary W. Gallagher by [author:Gary ..."


That's a great museum. Did you tour the Confederate White House? It's a great example of a mid-Victorian restoration.


message 49: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig | 121 comments Not this time, Manray9; I will try to get a tour next time. I did a tour a long-time ago, and I remember the beauty of the place.


message 50: by 'Aussie Rick' (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 1284 comments Nice collection of books there Bryan :)


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