Rand calls for a big speech, Perrini (Team B) uses this to get away. This causes a literal earthquake.
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Team C is on a ship, this time, because RJ thinks cliffnotes are worldbuilding, a Sea People ship.
Fantasy-rule #1: pure humans are the least desirable ~race (low life expectanca, no special ability etc.) Fantasy rule #2: all ~races are inferior to humans in the global hierachy.
The Sea Peopl ships have shipwheel. This pretty precisly narrows down if anyone care which century this world fits to (18th century). But remember: EVERYTHING betweem the ancient times and the modern era is MIDDLE AGES. Aside this, when looking for a definition of "epic fantasy" you find "the setting takes place on a secondary world", meaning not in our Earth, not on our timeline. As there are hints this IS our Earth's far-future, we can declare, according to such definition, WoT is NOT epic fantasy.
The Sea people has sme semantics for payment - don't make me yawn.
Confirmed, that Rand is also the Chosen One for the Sea People.
The Sea People seem marginal, but I keep no grudge against them. Unlike against the nazis, the werewolf, the gypsies, and whatever I'll come up with if you start bickering that "you just don't get it, it's not for you, it's not for missle aged white men" - what are you, Brie Larson? #IAmStarfire
PS: just in case it ever comes up, the Throne's Pass is taken back from Matt some chapters ago, and now these here have two 3,000$ checks. This feels oddly adventuregamey.
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Thom, and the local hunter (some Juilin Sandar) hops on the leaving ship. I call a typical RJ-bluff here. I strongly suspect, as Thom just got redundant, that there was absolutley no editorial work done, at least not professional level. As my bet goes, RJ knew he needed a helper for the wamen, so he brought them Thom, then changed his mind and gave them the hunter - TOO. Because he can't do as a sane person would, just cut the content not needed anymore, thus we ended up with BOTH Thom and the hunter. Shall I say crappy writing, or you get the point. Ok, crappy writer, this book, despite all the problems with it, is still "fine". But it is not going the right direction.
Elayne seem to start to get some distant memories of Thom. What?
Getting ut of the city, all wamen on the ship get half-naked. Fan-service? But the Sea People barely were mentioned, they can have no fans. Then hentai.
We again get remembered to not bother with the "prophecies", as not even the writer knows yet what they mean, if anything.
Ah, a clue! Thom called Elayne "mah daughter"! Does this mean anything, or just a phrase? Thom's past with Elayne is definitely important somehow.
See, Thom mentioned a legend about "Mosk" and "Merk", who fought with "firey lances". given how bad RJ is with names, this is obvious reference to Mocow and Amrica (USA) shooting rockets (or intending to shoot rockets) at each other. And pages like fantasybookfanatic.com or http://fantasy-faction.com define part of the high fantasy/epic fantasy definition that "It does not take place in a recognisable version of the world we all (I hope) wake up to every day.", or better phrased: "Primary World In the definition of low fantasy, I alluded to the “primary world.” For those that do not know, the primary world is the real world. The secondary world is totally separate from the real world." By these definitions, and the above mentioned detail, The Wheel of Time is NOT epic fantasy!
Then here is this question: "Thom, why did you come with us? Only 'cause Moiraine asked you to?" And he gives no straight answer. (I could solve this puzzle now, but I'm waiting where Elayne gets drunk.)
Turns out the thing Sea People do not carry aes sedai for them to realise they too have magling, and they dun wanna aes sedai steal their resources. Elayne exchanges spell with their mageling.
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Rand does his big speech. One: Rand ensures the taxes, the ships and the grain-transport will be done. Two: he sends in the army - to Cairhien, to stabilize the place. For this he sends away the most sneaky Lords. For a humanitarian mission. Moiraine of course thinks like a conservative idiot, and disagrees. She'd prefer short-term victories instead of a chance to unite for one cause. She prefers oppression against cooperation. Ran also sends there Alteima, a problematic noble woman, who sucked her husbands and lovers dry. To prevent machinations, Rand puts her current husband under the care of the husband's lover or something. Point is, she won't even make trouble during this. Three: he goes with the fremens to aiel-land. But to ensure everyone he'll be bakk puts the magic sword back to the stone. And does safety precautions, meaning all kinds of magic traps. Aside every bullshit to cover the narrative reason, this is of course to de-power Rand at least somewhat.
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Team C is on a ship, this time, because RJ thinks cliffnotes are worldbuilding, a Sea People ship.
Fantasy-rule #1: pure humans are the least desirable ~race (low life expectanca, no special ability etc.)
Fantasy rule #2: all ~races are inferior to humans in the global hierachy.
The Sea Peopl ships have shipwheel. This pretty precisly narrows down if anyone care which century this world fits to (18th century). But remember: EVERYTHING betweem the ancient times and the modern era is MIDDLE AGES.
Aside this, when looking for a definition of "epic fantasy" you find "the setting takes place on a secondary world", meaning not in our Earth, not on our timeline. As there are hints this IS our Earth's far-future, we can declare, according to such definition, WoT is NOT epic fantasy.
The Sea people has sme semantics for payment - don't make me yawn.
Confirmed, that Rand is also the Chosen One for the Sea People.
The Sea People seem marginal, but I keep no grudge against them. Unlike against the nazis, the werewolf, the gypsies, and whatever I'll come up with if you start bickering that "you just don't get it, it's not for you, it's not for missle aged white men" - what are you, Brie Larson? #IAmStarfire
PS: just in case it ever comes up, the Throne's Pass is taken back from Matt some chapters ago, and now these here have two 3,000$ checks. This feels oddly adventuregamey.
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Thom, and the local hunter (some Juilin Sandar) hops on the leaving ship. I call a typical RJ-bluff here. I strongly suspect, as Thom just got redundant, that there was absolutley no editorial work done, at least not professional level. As my bet goes, RJ knew he needed a helper for the wamen, so he brought them Thom, then changed his mind and gave them the hunter - TOO. Because he can't do as a sane person would, just cut the content not needed anymore, thus we ended up with BOTH Thom and the hunter. Shall I say crappy writing, or you get the point. Ok, crappy writer, this book, despite all the problems with it, is still "fine". But it is not going the right direction.
Elayne seem to start to get some distant memories of Thom. What?
Getting ut of the city, all wamen on the ship get half-naked. Fan-service? But the Sea People barely were mentioned, they can have no fans. Then hentai.
We again get remembered to not bother with the "prophecies", as not even the writer knows yet what they mean, if anything.
Ah, a clue! Thom called Elayne "mah daughter"! Does this mean anything, or just a phrase?
Thom's past with Elayne is definitely important somehow.
See, Thom mentioned a legend about "Mosk" and "Merk", who fought with "firey lances". given how bad RJ is with names, this is obvious reference to Mocow and Amrica (USA) shooting rockets (or intending to shoot rockets) at each other. And pages like fantasybookfanatic.com or http://fantasy-faction.com define part of the high fantasy/epic fantasy definition that "It does not take place in a recognisable version of the world we all (I hope) wake up to every day.", or better phrased: "Primary World In the definition of low fantasy, I alluded to the “primary world.” For those that do not know, the primary world is the real world. The secondary world is totally separate from the real world." By these definitions, and the above mentioned detail, The Wheel of Time is NOT epic fantasy!
Then here is this question: "Thom, why did you come with us? Only 'cause Moiraine asked you to?" And he gives no straight answer. (I could solve this puzzle now, but I'm waiting where Elayne gets drunk.)
Turns out the thing Sea People do not carry aes sedai for them to realise they too have magling, and they dun wanna aes sedai steal their resources.
Elayne exchanges spell with their mageling.
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Rand does his big speech.
One: Rand ensures the taxes, the ships and the grain-transport will be done.
Two: he sends in the army - to Cairhien, to stabilize the place. For this he sends away the most sneaky Lords. For a humanitarian mission. Moiraine of course thinks like a conservative idiot, and disagrees. She'd prefer short-term victories instead of a chance to unite for one cause. She prefers oppression against cooperation.
Ran also sends there Alteima, a problematic noble woman, who sucked her husbands and lovers dry. To prevent machinations, Rand puts her current husband under the care of the husband's lover or something. Point is, she won't even make trouble during this.
Three: he goes with the fremens to aiel-land. But to ensure everyone he'll be bakk puts the magic sword back to the stone. And does safety precautions, meaning all kinds of magic traps. Aside every bullshit to cover the narrative reason, this is of course to de-power Rand at least somewhat.
Team A heads Rhuidean, the aiel city.