Furries! discussion

Hey sexies!!!
Aside from books, what id your favorite genre of music? What are your favorite bands?

I personally love power metal and especially death metal (the heavy brutal stuff). Among my favorite bands is stratovarius (power), aeon (death), powerwolf (power), abysmal dawn (death), and bloodbath (death) I have so much more bands to share but I'm sure the names are just names to ya'll.

I'd love to hear what all ya'll sexies feed your ears
-zipzim
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I'm undoubtedly standing on the outside of this discussion, but for the record (no pun intended): Classical music of all eras but especially Romantic and Nationalist, English and Celtic folk music, and American standards from the music hall era up through fairly recent Broadway. No rock, metal, trance, or other recent pop or dance, thanks.

Working on my current project I've been listening to a lot of Douglas Bluefeather's "Flute Medicine", Keith Richards "Main Offender" and Green Day's "American Idiot," depending on my mood or needs.

Bluefeather is great background while I'm writing, Keith when I'm mulling over plot points or characterization and Green Day when I need an adrenaline boost.

When I'm REALLY stuck or on the verge of a mental Chernobyl, I roll out some Leonard Cohen...my heavy artillery thinking tunes.

I absolutely have no preferred genre or anything, basically I bathe inside them all more or less. There's just veryvery little that I don't listen to. If anything it gives me always something to discover.

It's getting more and more difficult for me to name favourite artists and bands, though. The more you know the less you find yourself in a corner, I suppose.

I have a last.fm account, if anyone happens to be curious. It's mostly for iPod scrobbles these days though as I mostly listen to records at home.

http://www.lastfm.de/user/Kaoru_is_here

It occurs to me that no one has mentioned our own furry musicians. Three names spring to my mind immediately, and all of them have available recordings.

Fox Amoore (Ian Armour) from Scotland is probably the best known right now. He makes frequent appearances at furry conventions, and composes and performs in many styles ranging from new age to contemporary jazz to rock. You can find him on FA and in other places.

Flare Starfire is a very talented US composer and keyboardist who has appeared at cons in the past and has a long series of CDs and MP3 collections available. His styles are fresh and imaginative, often deeply emotional and personal. If you haven't listened to him yet, you should. On FA and elsewhere.

Bucktown Tiger is more solidly American and contemporary in contrast to the new age and international flavor of the preceding two performers. Keyboardist and occasional vocalist and rapper, he appears at conventions and has available recordings on CD and online. He can be found on most furry sites.

Other furry musicians are well worth a listen too. If you dig past the porn on FA or SF you'll find them there.

Hmmm. Good question.

I like a mix of things. Classical (Focused mostly on High Classical and Baroque), Jazz (Dixieland and contemporary lite.), eletronica (trance, house, chiptunes, experimental), rock (epic, speed, progressive, punk, ska fusion), pop (80's, Jpop, Kpop), and a smattering of classic R&B and Rap (but I'm a purist with a taste more for classic 70's and 80's style. Everything gansta on just sucks to my ear.)

Oh, and I occasionally collect video game sound tracks.

Altivo wrote: "It occurs to me that no one has mentioned our own furry musicians. Three names spring to my mind immediately, and all of them have available recordings.

Fox Amoore (Ian Armour) from Scotland is p..."

The thing with furry musicians is that they tend to stick with the electronic music genre. I dislike the electronic music genre. I find anything that involves using a computer program to make noise is not music. People have argued that keyboard is also electronic but a keyboard actually required talent to play compared to a computer program.

For those of you who do like electronic music, I'm sorry for being a hater. I like to express my opinions.

-zipzim
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I question your definitions there. Anything at all that is recorded these days uses a lot of computer programs for capture, editing, mastering, and production. All three of the musicians I named certainly do that. So does anyone who releases recordings today.

But you imply that they produce their music by encoding it and letting the machine play it. That is not the case. Fox Amoore released an album last year that was recorded live in the Abbey Road studio, with live professional musicians playing from printed music that he wrote and arranged, for instance. Flare Starfire records digitally but he plays the music live on the keyboard, not by electronic intervention. I don't know what Bucktown's recording methods are, but all three of them perform live and they aren't faking it by having a machine play the music. Nor is the style of what they do anything like "electronica" or whatever. For the most part, it's live jazz or light rock.

All three of these musicians have plenty of talent and have spent years developing it. Your rejection of electronic elements in music rules out just about all the movie sound tracks, all the recorded music, and everything you can hear on the radio or the internet today.

Maybe Zip was referring more to electronic music in the sense of techno, EDM, trance, etc?

I don't think so. Certainly he implied that those I named were not "real" musicians.

Yes, Amber hit it on the spot. I was refering to the techno/dubstep related crap, which is strangely getting popular at my school. It takes no talent to create such music. You can even download an app on your phone to create noise and save it to play back later. Technology has amazed me at where it has brought us today but in the world of music.... I don't want to talk about it. It makes me sad :C

I have most of Fox Amoore's music. I first heard about him as part of my first ever furry con. He was the guest of honor there. He also had a panel at the same con last year where he talked about how what it was like working with a live orchestra and a little bit about how he usually creates his music. Very nice guy. Aside from that I love symphonic rock/metal, a bit of kpop, different types of rock here and there, and yes I do like some types of electronic music. Not really dubstep or techno though. I don't care for those.

zipzim wrote: "...I was refering to the techno/dubstep related crap..."

Ok, then, as I suggested, there's an issue with terminology here. I would not use the word "musician" to describe people who create that sort of sound art, and I agree with you that calling it art or music is a stretch, but clearly others disagree with us. I would say that more proper term for the creators would be "sound mix artists" or the much overused and vague "DJs."

When I speak of furry musicians, I am referring to those who play conventional instruments (which includes synthesizers and electronic keyboards, as well as guitars and wind instruments) and compose music and lyrics themselves, rather than anyone who remixes or combines bits and pieces of the work of others. I personally have some objection to calling rap "music" but that is generational. I'll grant that it is poetry of a sort and certainly art, but it doesn't quite fit within the boundaries of music as I understand it.

Altivo wrote: "zipzim wrote: "...I was refering to the techno/dubstep related crap..."

Ok, then, as I suggested, there's an issue with terminology here. I would not use the word "musician" to describe people who..."

There was a term coined for that back in the 60's and 70's to describe works like Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" ...Tonal Art.

Some look at it more as Atonal Art tho ;) It can be kinda rough on the earholes ^..^

I am getting more into electronic music/tracks but I will also readily admit that a lot of it is just noise and very harsh on the eardrums.

*shakes head* Eletronica is just another instrument. Good artists working in the medium spend days getting sequences right, working layers of compositions and tracks that work well together. They are more composers these days but it is still music.

If you took away the samples, and midi over sampling and replaced them with instruments you'd be an orchestra playing. With mixed choir groups.

A good example is Madeon working. He takes samples from 42 different pieces of music and layers it together like singers and instruments to make magic.

Behold "Pop Culture" It is him composing.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTx3G6h2xyA

The difference is he has a programed keypad instead of a baton.

In comparison another Electronic artist. Using the medium of his day 80's synth. Vince Dicola doing Rocky.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lb3MTlIrC4

Or perhaps I should present you one of the founders of the craft. Gary Nueman playing his classic. Cars.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldyx3KHOFXw

Or some of the people I consider a Mozart of the art. Wendy Carlos doing Tron Scherzo

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBoewhKe1Aw

Or a more well known master using sampling of vocal pieces with midi, live instruments, and all recording-rerecording and layered into a masterpiece. Philip Glass doing Koyaanisqatisi

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFBijDU8PpE

Or Daft Punk honoring another alum. Giorgio Moroder

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhl-Cs1-sG4

Sorry, it's something I'm passionate about.

I agree with you Joey and I have great respect for those who create/compose electronic music. However I do think that like any other form of music some of it is amazing and very well composed and some of it is... well not so much. That's all. But I do think it is a perfectly valid musical form and great to listen to.

I just bought both versions of A State of Trance 2014 compiled and/or mixed by Armin van Buurin myself but I'm always looking for more to add to my collection.

"Electronic music" means one thing when it is Philip Glass or Wendy Carlos, and quite another thing when it is dubstep. Using sythesized voices to compose, arrange, and perform with is something I have no problem with. The work is original, or in the case of existing compositions rearranged and revoiced, the interpretation and performance is legitimate.

Taking snips of other people's performances and rearranging them, usually without permission or royalty, is quite a different matter. This is plagiarism, not creativity.

Not all dubstep is plagiarism. There are cases of it and it tends to be documented. Like Zomby, among others. It's horrible among Kpop bands.

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music...

This is interesting article talking about the recent trends in Eletronica.

You want good eletronica? Like damn awesome mind melting stuff? All original?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphex_Twin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squarepu...

And the godfather:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Re...

Cool! I'll have to check those out! Thanks! :)

Christian, Pop, hip hop, dance, rock

I enjoy a bit of everything, but my main music of choice is Doom Metal. I enjoy bands like Candlemass, Witch Mountain, Solitude Aeturnus(which is where I got my name from), Doomsword, Hour of 13, Pentagram, everything Scott Wino has done and so forth.

My faves are are ambient, chillout, OST, J-Rock, Indie, Alternative, Blue, Jazz, Classic...

i have music i listen to....and then this just popped up.entertainment for hours with varied styles of music!!!

https://www.iheart.com/live/ready-pla...