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How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization
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CBC Moderator 2 | 175 comments Mod
We have read another book similar to this one: Europe and the Faith by Hilaire Belloc and have another similar one in the voting list for next month. How does this book compare with Belloc's book? How does it compare with other books you may have read about this subject? Have you read anything by Stanley Jaki?


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John Seymour | 2312 comments Mod
I've read How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role from the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe , by Thomas Cahill, and Triumph: The Power and the Glory of the Catholic Church, by H.W. Crocker III, both of which are included in his bibliography. I haven't read any of Father Jaki's works, but they are going on the list.


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Frances Richardson | 139 comments I’d like to recommend British historian Tom Holland’s Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World. From one review:

‘’Dominion is an immensely powerful and thought-provoking book. It is hard to think of another that so effectively and readably summarizes the major strands of Christian ethical thought across two millennia. . . To turn from the world of the Aeneid to the world of the Gospels is to find oneself in a mysterious new ethical universe. No heroic conquests, no glorious slaughter of barbarians, but lilies in a field, forgetful girls without enough oil for their lamps, and a man borrowing bread from his neighbor at night. Whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Love thy enemies. You cannot serve God and mammon. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Tom Holland is right: Something wholly new did come into the world with Jesus of Nazareth. . . ‘’ (Peter Thonemann, teacher of Greek and Roman history at Wadham College, Oxford)


diane | 13 comments Check out Catholic Churchmen in Science by Walsh and 7 Lies About Catholic History by Mozcar.


Fonch | 2475 comments https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/... this book is very close to the Thomas E. Wood's book. This book was translated into Spanish and in this edition participated a very interesting spanish jornalist and writer called José Javier Esparza. I commented to Manuel Alfonseca that there was a french writer Jean Sevillia Who wrote a very close book but this book was not translated to english. It is a pity.


Manuel Alfonseca | 2399 comments Mod
Here are a couple of books by and about Stanley L. Jaki that deal with this subject:

The Savior Of Science

Science Was Born of Christianity: The Teaching of Fr. Stanley L. Jaki


Manuel Alfonseca | 2399 comments Mod
Fonch wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/... this book is very close to the Thomas E. Wood's book. "

Fonch, the address you have given is incorrect. The book you are trying to mention is this: The Politically Incorrect Guide to Western Civilization and its Spanish edition is this: Guía políticamente incorrecta de la Civilización Occidental


Fonch | 2475 comments I apologize i would have to look previously the Link.


Manuel Alfonseca | 2399 comments Mod
Although Europe and the Faith had a more restricted view and did not consider so many influences, I liked it better than this book, although this is more thorough and looks at a wider set of influences.

I also liked Christopher Dawson's books better.


Mariangel | 727 comments I am 1/3 into the book. I think this one would be a very good introduction for high school or college students who only know the modern, prejudiced portrayal of the Church and have no knowledge about the middle ages.


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John Seymour | 2312 comments Mod
Mariangel wrote: "who only know the modern, prejudiced portrayal of the Church and have no knowledge about the middle ages."

I think that describes the vast majority of the population, not just college and high school students. But I agree it would make a good outline text for an introductory course in the History of the Middle Ages or Western Civilization. I suspect most folks have a very Monty Pythonesque understanding of the Middle Ages.


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