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Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
This penultimate section covers chapters 9 to 12 of Book 4. Plenty more interesting plot developments - my summaries continued to get longer and longer!

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Brian E Reynolds | 148 comments Normally. the chapters in each discussion section have gone from one scene to another scene with completely different characters. This section is the first time that the 4 chapters flowed together so well. Lightwood even appears in each chapter, serving somwhat as a connection.
I didn't think the inevitable Rokesmith/Handford/Harmon reveal would be done so cryptically rather than with some grand scene. Much has occurred offstage at this time and with secondary characters. I should have realized how Dickens would present it, though, as Dickens seems to describe many situations more cryptically in this book than in his others I've read.
(As I've noted before, my failure to always properly decipher Dickens wording has sometimes caused my failure to visualize what has actually happened until either Hugh's summary or a fellow reader's commentary reveals it.)


Linda | 1425 comments I was disappointed in the reveal chapter and that we will retroactively find out what happened. I was hoping for an action scene of some sort involving Wegg and Venus, Boffin, and Rokesmith.

Brian - I've also found myself not fully understanding what has happened in particular scenes until I've read Hugh's summaries.

Also, I'm confused as to why Wrayburn doesn't want his attacker pursued? He says it's because it will reflect poorly on Lizzie, but wouldn't he want Headstone revealed as a horrible person so that Lizzie could make sure she fully severed ties with him?


Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
I suspect that it helps to be British when deciphering Dickens' terminology.

Those plot summaries were almost word for word neat copies of the notes I made while reading, and I did find myself writing quite a lot down just in case its significance became clearer to me later. I did revisit the first Veneering chapter after finishing because so many people were introduced, and some gained more significance later.


Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
As a first time Dickens reader, I also found it interesting that even this late in the plot and after many of the key revelations, there are so many unresolved questions, though I am pretty sure Dickens knew how he was going to resolve most of them!


Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
Linda wrote: "Also, I'm confused as to why Wrayburn doesn't want his attacker pursued? He says it's because it will reflect poorly on Lizzie, but wouldn't he want Headstone revealed as a horrible person so that Lizzie could make sure she fully severed ties with him?"
My reading of that is that because his death is imminent, he fears divine judgment and wants to do the Christian thing, but I am sure there are other possibilities.


Linda | 1425 comments I've read many Dickens books and other British novels. It's been awhile, though, so I may be out of habit. Plus, I found myself rushing through some of the chapters more quickly than I normally would read so I probably glossed over some details. In any case, I've been grateful for Hugh's summaries.

I'm not surprised by the number of loose threads at this late stage. Dickens also seems to like to throw in more coincidences than I find would be normal in order to tie things up, at least in my opinion. Anyway, I'm curious to see how everything has come about.


Jess Penhallow | 20 comments Linda wrote: I'm confused as to why Wrayburn doesn't want his attacker pursued? He says it's because it will reflect poorly on Lizzie, but wouldn't he want Headstone revealed as a horrible person so that Lizzie could make sure she fully severed ties with him?

I understood this as him feeling that if a trial occurred, Headstone's defense would likely portray Lizzie as having been carrying on with both men at the same time causing Headstone to act violently to defend her honor or something along those lines. Having those accusations against her would be very damaging to Lizzie and certainly destroy any future marriage prospects for her.

I wonder if Wrayburn's family will have to now welcome or support Lizzie as his widow (assuming that he does die) I don't remember much mention of them but the class difference was why he did not pursue her earlier so I imagine their would be pushback.

I am still very confused by the Harmon reveal. I know we still haven't been given all of the information but I don't understand why those two men were the only ones who could verify his identity. I think I might have forgotten some details from earlier in the story where the Pottersons were introduced. I must say though, I loved how the Inspector made a whole drama over it rather than just calling them into the station and asking them to identify him like a normal policeman would! Victorians are so melodramatic.

I'm looking forward to the confrontation with the Boffins in the next section, can't believe we're almost done!


Linda | 1425 comments Jess wrote: "I understood this as him feeling that if a trial occurred, Headstone's defense would likely portray Lizzie as having been carrying on with both men at the same time causing Headstone to act violently to defend her honor or something along those lines."

Thank you! That makes sense.

Jess wrote: "I am still very confused by the Harmon reveal. I know we still haven't been given all of the information but I don't understand why those two men were the only ones who could verify his identity."

I was a little confused as well. I'm trying to remember Harmon's backstory and at what age he left home. Maybe these two men are people he knew as a man elsewhere? And he left town early enough that now nobody from home recognizes him anymore?


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Hugh (bodachliath) | 316 comments Mod
Rokesmith/Harmon was sent to the colonies as an adolescent, so nobody in London has seen him as an adult. I won't spoil the last part by explaining more at this stage, but the resolution still has a plenty of tricks to reveal.

I am going to open up the final week's discussion early so that it is there for anyone who finishes the book.


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