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And unfortunately, I really like most of the cast. Dakota had been fine in the couple of things I’ve seen her in. I loved Lady Macbeth that Cosmo Jarvis was in, I just wish they had continued to the end of the story in the film. Nikki Amuka Bird ends up being one of my favorites in everything she shows up in. Still side eying whatever “modern, witty approach” means, it’s supposed to be more serious
They both sound pretty bad. I LOVE Amanda Root and Ciarán Hinds as Anne and Wentworth. I hated the remake with Sally Hawkins. No letter. If neither of these versions include the letter, they go on my "shall not be acknowledged" list. I saw a cute Hallmark rom com that paid tribute to Pride and Prejudice and Persuasion without being an exact update remake. It was better than Modern Persuasion which I am way too old for. I think that one was cute for the demographic but not for die-hard Austen purists.
Ann wrote: "Any recommendations for a good movie or TV version of Sense and Sensibility? That is the other novel I have not read yet."
Yes yes yes! Emma Thompson's wonderful screen play and Ang Lee's beautiful direction make the 1995 film a real treat. IF you can overlook the ages of the actors. Plus you get to see the late great Alan Rickman in one of his finest roles *SIGH* and a young Kate Winslet just beginning her career. Harriet Walter as Fanny Dashwood is a scene stealer and oh it's just a wonderful film! My dad keeps coming across it on TV and getting sucked into it. I KNOW he's seen it at least once with me, probably more than once but he keeps forgetting! The only MAJOR difference from book to film is Margaret's character but I like the changes.
The 2008 TV version with Dan Stevens as Edward isn't too bad. I didn't have a problem with Andrew Davies's "sexed up" adaptation, at least not what they showed in American TV. He's right that it IS in the book, it's just not on page. I tried the old 1980s one but I could only get one episode and it was too overacted and too much a departure from the book. I also watched Kandukondain Kandukondain a 2000 Indian Tamil-language modern adaptation. It loses too much in translation and is probably best appreciated by a Tamil-language film audience.
I normally prefer to read the book first too. I found it helpful, as my introduction to Austen way back when I was in college in the 90s, to watch Sense and Sensibility first. I found the book a little too much with too many characters. The movie is different because the book was begun as an epistolary novel and is very Georgian in tone. Emma Thompson's screenplay won the Oscar that year and the film won a BAFTA. I need to try the old one again if I can get it. Everything moved from Amazon to BritBox and I lost access. Hmm there's also a 1971 version I haven't seen before either.
I HAVE seen the 1971 version of Persuasion but I don't really remember much about it. Now that's a book that needs to be read and felt and experienced before the adaptations. Then you read the cancelled chapter, back to the published version again and again, and then watch the 1995 film and do not accept any others. That's my two penny's worth, anyway. I know plenty of others who enjoyed the Sally Hawkins/Rupert Penury-Jones mini-series.
The trailer for 's Netflix's (very loose) adaptation of Persuasion starring Dakota Johnson just dropped and all I have to see is what on earth was that? It sounded like a funny, cute modern romcom but as an adaptation of the novel? Absolutely not.
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I actually came to see if anyone had watched this yet; I haven’t, and haven’t decided if I will. I don’t think they intended it to be a direct adaptation, more like fleabag style fourth wall monologue, but with characters people already knew. Could have been interesting, but I’ve seen really bad reviews even from people who were intrigued by the style of it
I don’t know if you saw, but they’ve paused the second adaptation, and I think it’s supposed to be canceled
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I have Netflix, so I’ll probably give it a watch eventually. I’ve been getting caught up on a lot of movies since I’m stuck in the house.
Heads up, apparently the writer is getting ready to adapt Sense and Sensibility and Pride and Prejudice in the same vein
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment...
Yikes Marie! I hope you're on the mend.UGH This is one BAD movie. It can't decide if it's modern or period. The acting is bad, the storyline is chopped, emphasis is on marrying for love. My mom had COVID so she watched a lot of Netlix and she didn't like the direct to camera narration. She also found the movie unmemorable. I give them props for using the letter so this one shall be acknowledged but so much was missing and just plain weird.
Also, Hollywood- please stop casting skinny people. It says in the book thinness is unattractive. It probably meant you were unhealthy and not wealthy. Yes Jane Austen was tall and thin but she was the exception. Oh and Dakota Johnston does not look like the bloom has gone off the rose. The poor woman doesn't resemble either of her parents strongly enough to be considered conventionally beautiful but when they had Anne all dressed up to visit Lady Dalrymple she looked pretty.
I liked Modern Persuasion better. I'm too old for that one but if I were 20 years younger and 20 years cooler I probably would have really enjoyed it. It pays tribute to the original novel but isn't quite a direct adaptation.
Yes the other more direct adaptation has been shelved. *sigh*
Sorry to hear about your accident Marie!
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Thank you, Linda! It was silly really, I fell off a ladder trying to fix a light after a storm
How have you been?
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Thank you, it’s been a couple of weeks, so at least I’m starting to move around a little better
OK. Teaching during the pandemic was pretty awful. And unexpectedly lost my job in January. After 23 years. I'm finishing up the appeal process now and it will probably go into litigation. So not at all where I expected to be at this point in my life. And. And had to find a new place to live during the pandemic so I'm now in a house. My 1st house ever and not my dream house by far but a good solid place a nice neighborhood great neighborhood great neighbors. It could be much worse. A little deck off the back where I can see the sunset over the ocean at night. I'll take it
Oh Linda I'm sorry you lost your job. I lost my museum job during the pandemic and then the National Park Service took over and I ended up without a job to return to. As much as I hate the ocean, it's been so hot, some ocean breezes would be welcome right now. Are there way too many tourists around?
I was tenured and full. There was no reason it had to happen. It is purely an issue of politics with my chair and 2 new administrators who have had 2 conversations with me each preferring to believe what someone says without substantiating anything. They have continued to dangle the last semester's pay over me as though it were a gift from them in some sort of settlement instead of something that was owed to me by contract.. And I appealed the process to say that I exhausted all recourse before we could litigate. And now they have taken the amount that they were offering, which had moved up a little bit and taken it back down to just pay me for last semester. 8 months without a paycheck has not been easy. Particularly since I had to buy a house last fall. And working through the unemployment system ,which I have never used in my life. But there is no way at this age I will get another position, especially when everyone is tightening their belts all over the country. People would hire a young person just out of school and pay them less before hiring me to do the same job. So they have destroyed my career and damaged my reputation. We are likely to have defamation lawsuits in addition to litigation with the University. And they hired the spouse of someone in my department full time because I'm because she was able to shift completely into one language since I was dismissed. That's going to come up as well
Oh Linda that's awful but not all that surprising given the way things work around here.
Thanks, Qand Pooh. It has been. Have never been fired in my life. I learned way too late in life what a malignant narcissist is, and the warning signs that your "friend" at work is one.
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My father was a malignant narcissist, I hate that you had to go through that
Silly me, I'm educated, but always thought "narcissist " was just someone who was self-involved. When 45 was pres, I heard the term, looked it up, and when they said "you'll never win against one", just thought "oh God, the next years will be fun." Went into gray rock mode 6 yrs ago, put up the firewalls 3 yrs ago....wasn't counting on administrators not following our own rulebook. We've only begun to unionize....guess who stepped up to lead our chapter? But the national organization has their eyes on them. Bad press is no good. Also, they've never litigated. So the students who lied are going to have to lie on the stand....on the way to making happy college memories...
The worst is that, after 24 years same place, I apply anywhere else, there's a "stink" on the app (I would look askance at it, I admit). Besides the fact that they would rather pay someone just out of school less to do the same job.And I've only had the house 1 yr, only 30,000 in equity. I can sell it for more than I paid, but then I have capital gains tax, 30,000, and nowhere to go, because there's a crisis everywhere
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I saw a retired professor on twitter the other day talking about districts calling her due to the teaching shortage. 30+ years experience between high school and college level, two masters degrees, max income at a little over $140,000, and the highest anyone had offered was $32,000. I can’t imagine what you’re dealing with, with all of this on top of it
And I don’t even want to think about the housing market, it’s anxiety inducing. I know I’m lucky to be able to comfortably pay cash, but for what? And where??? To be able to build (do not want to do that) or even look to buy, you would need to rent for a while, and waiting lists are a mile long. I’ve been looking into London, but they’re in worse shape than us, especially for foreign renters/buyers
"This Persuasion is set to be reimagined with a “modern, witty approach.” However, given that the cast was photographed in period costumes, viewers should not expect a completely updated storyline. This doesn't seem to be a Clueless (based on Emma) or Bridget Jones's Diary (based on Pride and Prejudice), but the dialogue may be updated for this "modern" feel.
According to Deadline, "In this version of Persuasion, Anne Elliot is an unconforming woman with modern sensibilities, living with her snobby family who are on the brink of bankruptcy. When Frederick Wentworth—the dashing one she once sent away—crashes back into her life, Anne must choose between putting the past behind her or listening to her heart when it comes to second chances."
Succession star Sarah Snook will star in ANOTHER adaptation. Helmed by Searchlight Pictures, Persuasion is pulling together a group of both entertainment professionals and up-and-coming talent. Mahalia Belo is set to direct the picture. The English film and TV director won a Breakthrough BAFTA in 2017 for her TV movie Ellen, and directed the 2018 BBC drama, The Long Song.
British playwright Jessica Swale is adapting the book into a feature. Her first feature film, Summerland, was released this past summer. As for production, Alison Own and Debra Hayward are producing through Monumental Pictures, while BBC Films is co-financing the movie.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/lei...
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Henry Golding apparently chose to play Mr. Elliot and not Capt. Wentworth.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/lei...