The Mookse and the Gripes discussion

Usual rules - one entry per person, use edit post to update. List the ones you have read or started in order of preference best first

These are the 6 shortlisted books:

Not a River by Selva Almada translated by Annie McDermott (Charco), Spanish/Argentina
Kairos by Jenny Erpenbeck translated by Michael Hofmann (Granta), German/Germany
The Details by Ia Genberg translated by Kira Josefsson (HarperVia), Sweden/Swedish
Mater 2-10 by Hwang Sok-yong translated by Sora Kim-Russell and Youngjae Josephine Bae (Scribe), Korean/South Korea
What I’d Rather Not Think About by Jente Posthuma translated by Sarah Timmer Harvey (Scribe), Dutch/Netherlands
Crooked Plow by Itamar Vieira Junior translated by Johnny Lorenz (Verso), Portuguese/Brazil

(i) Shortlist rankings only

My adjusted weightings method:

Pos, Book, Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places, STD
1, Not a River by Selva Almada, 2.21, 1.23, 14, 5, 0.60
2, Mater 2-10 by Hwang Sok-yong, 3.08, 2.10, 13, 4, 0.97
3, Kairos by Jenny Erpenbeck, 2.94, 2.10, 17, 5, 1.09
4, The Details by Ia Genberg, 3.56, 2.83, 16, 1, 1.23
5, Crooked Plow by Itamar Vieira Junior, 3.63, 2.88, 16, 1, 1.19
6, What I’d Rather Not Think About by Jente Posthuma, 4.36, 3.49, 11, 1, 1.24

Paul-style aggregate of comparisons

Pos, Book, Average, Relative ranking, Count, First Places
1, Not a River by Selva Almada, 2.21, 28, 14, 5
2, Kairos by Jenny Erpenbeck, 2.94, 18, 17, 5
3, Mater 2-10 by Hwang Sok-yong, 3.08, 7, 13, 4
4, Crooked Plow by Itamar Vieira Junior, 3.63, -13, 16, 1
5, The Details by Ia Genberg, 3.56, -16, 16, 1
6, What I’d Rather Not Think About by Jente Posthuma, 4.36, -24, 11, 1

(ii) Including longlist rankings:

My adjusted weightings method:

Pos, Book, Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places, STD
1, Not a River by Selva Almada, 2.20, 1.21, 15, 5, 0.61
2, Kairos by Jenny Erpenbeck, 2.79, 2.09, 19, 6, 1.15
3, Mater 2-10 by Hwang Sok-yong, 3.07, 2.25, 15, 5, 1.06
4, The Details by Ia Genberg, 3.10, 2.47, 21, 5, 1.25
5, Crooked Plow by Itamar Vieira Junior, 3.42, 2.90, 19, 2, 1.28
6, What I’d Rather Not Think About by Jente Posthuma, 4.00, 3.59, 15, 1, 1.42

Paul-style aggregate of comparisons

Pos, Book, Average, Relative ranking, Count, First Places
1, Not a River by Selva Almada, 2.20, 31, 15, 5
2, Kairos by Jenny Erpenbeck, 2.79, 22, 19, 6
3, Mater 2-10 by Hwang Sok-yong, 3.07, 4, 15, 5
4, The Details by Ia Genberg, 3.10, -12, 21, 5
5, Crooked Plow by Itamar Vieira Junior, 3.42, -14, 19, 2
6, What I’d Rather Not Think About by Jente Posthuma, 4.00, -31, 15, 1

1 Kairos
2 Mater 2-10
3 Crooked Plow
4 Not a River
5 The Details
6 What I'd Rather Not Think About

This is tricky - there is not much to separate the top five.

1 Kairos
2 Not A River
3 Mater 2-10
4 What I'd rather
5 Crooked Plow
6 The Details

1. Mater 2-10
2. Not a River
3. Kairos
...
5. Crooked Plow
...

1. Kairos
2. Not A River
3. Crooked Plow
4. The Details
5. Mater 2-10
6. What I'd Rather Not Think About

2. Kairos
3.
4. Crooked Plow

1. Not a River
2. The Details
3. Kairos
4. What I'd Rather Not Think About
5. Crooked Plow

1. Mater 2-10

3. Kairos
4. Not A River
5. Crooked Plow
6. The Details

Not reading What I'd Rather...

1. Not A River
2. The Details
3. Kairos
4. What I'd Rather Not Think about
5. Crooked Plow
6.

1 - Kairos
2 - Crooked Plow
3 - Not A River
4 - Mater 2-10
5 - The Details
6 - What I'd Rather Not Think About

1. The Details
2. Not A River


6. Kairos (DNF)

Mater 2-10 - not going to read.

1 Not A River
2 Kairos
3 Mater 2-10 (I haven't read it, but I don't see where else to put it)
4 Crooked Plow
5 The Details
6 What I'd Rather Not Think About

1. What I'd Rather Not Think About
2. The Details
3. Not a River
4. Crooked Plow (although I think this will win)
5. Kairos
6. Mater 2-10

1. Crooked Plow (all my bets are on this to win)
2. The Details

1.
2. The Details
3.
4.
5.
6. Mater 2-10

1. Mater 2-10
2. What I'd Rather Not Think About
3.
4.
5. Kairos
6.

1. Not a River
2. Crooked Plow
3. Kairos
4. The Details
5. Mater 2-10
6. What I’d Rather Not Think About

My new ranking

1. Not a River
2. Mater 2-10
3. The details
4. Crooked plow
5. Kairos

1. Not a River - by a mile
2. The Details
3. Crooked Plow


6. Kairos (dnf)

1 Kairos
2. Mater 2-10
3. What I'd Rather not Think About
4. Not a River
5. Crooked Plow
6. The Details