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At Louisiana State University (LSU): librarians will no longer be offered the opportunity to earn tenure and ..."
This shows that politicians (all politicians mind you, both right and left) should have NO power and no say regarding education and in particular post secondary education.
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This shows that politicians (all politicians mind you, both right and left) should have NO power and no say regarding education and in particular post secondary education"
But that's what public education is. Unfortunately when some politicians get involved, they turn schools into their political battlegrounds. Politicians and anyone who knows nothing about libraries and how they're run should butt out. Cutting hours doesn't help students learn but that's probably the point. They don't want students to learn to think! I applied for an interviewed for a job at the LSU library! So glad I'm not there. I did not ask about the relationship with the university administration! I should have and I will if I apply for another university job.
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This shows that politicians (all politicians mind you, both right and left) should have NO power and no say regarding education and in particular post secondary education"
But t..."
I still say that politicians have no business interfering in post secondary education (except maybe if a university is advocating for genocide, gender-based mutilation, euthanasia etc.).
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Banned Books Week was a success and Penguin Random House is still suing the Florida Dept. of Ed.
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Manybooks wrote: "I still say that politicians have no business interfering in post secondary education (except maybe if a university is advocating for genocide, gender-based mutilation, euthanasia etc.)...."So you are saying that if you agree with the policy, then you are good with meddling? You do realize that it is the proverbial camel's nose in the tent?
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I never said that, but if a university advocates and supports genocide, eugenics and the like, that is definitely problematic.
Not getting into an argument regarding this, but I did clearly state that generally politicians should have no say regarding university education and academic libraries.
Manybooks wrote: "I never said that, but if a university advocates and supports genocide, eugenics and the like, that is definitely problematic.Not getting into an argument regarding this, but I did clearly state that generally politicians should have no say regarding university education and academic libraries...."
Maybe you should reread what you wrote again because you actually did say exactly that.
Then the question is who determines these standards? This is not a fair question for here because there is never an easy solution because no matter what determination is made someone will be unhappy. The fact there is a book that someone finds offensive for whatever reason is going to give them a reason to challenge.
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Not getting into an argument regarding this, but I ..."
The only thing I said is that it would be problematic if an academic library promoted eugenics, genocide etc., not books ABOUT this, but books actively supporting this (and frankly, ANYONE should be against books that support and condone genocide, eugenics etc.).
And in that case, I think I would be right to be worried.
Manybooks wrote: "Papaphilly wrote: "Manybooks wrote: "I never said that, but if a university advocates and supports genocide, eugenics and the like, that is definitely problematic.Not getting into an argument reg..."
You just made my point for me. You have a line that you do not want crossed. There are plenty of books in the public libraries right now that promote these very things and other things like these that are available.
Now you try and separate books from open promotion. What is the difference? They are ideas. How about libraries having a month celebration of books that promote these ideas? Is that OK? They do not openly promote any course of action, but celebrate these books that do so.
I am not challenging your line, but noting you have a line. We all do. Every bodies line is different. Either you accept everyone has a line and their line is as legitimate as yours or you do not. If you do not, then expect others to not accept your line as being valid.
Just for the record, I accept statements as being legitimate regardless of what the stand. Meaning I accept the stand as being an honest statement. This does not mean I agree with any stand, but I believe people of good conscious can disagree. Every opinion is as valid as any other opinion.
BTW, no works from academic libraries should be disqualified as long as they have academic merit.
As for public libraries, not one should be able to ban any book that the Library of Congress has within its shelves. But that is my opinion.
At Louisiana State University (LSU): librarians will no longer be offered the opportunity to earn tenure and those who are already on the tenure track or are tenured have only a year to make a decision about how often they will publish.
The provost clearly lacks understanding of what a library is and does. he claims it is "not appropriate" for librarians to earn tenure, which guarantees their job, and grants status both to the individual and to the university itself. He stated that “the culture of a library is typically not focused around the production of knowledge. It’s focused around the culture of creating access to knowledge.”
https://lailluminator.com/2024/08/20/...
Thankfully the the bill to ban library workers from involvement with the American Library Association did not pass. That would have directly impacted parts of LSU’s library services and library science master’s degree program. Other anti-library bills passed in the state.
At Western Illinois University (WIU), there has been a mass cutting of faculty and staff. Nearly every librarian was laid off, and the hours that the library has instituted for 2024 are inconvenient for students. The only opportunity students will have to access reference librarians is between noon and 5 p.m. Monday through Thursday. They will have absolutely no access on Fridays, Saturdays, or Sundays.
WIU’s satellite campus will close its current library space and require students to go to a new service station and request a book. Someone will then need to go across campus to get the book and bring it back.
https://www.wqad.com/article/news/edu...
https://www.rrstar.com/story/news/sta...
Within two weeks in July, four institutions of higher education had bomb threats directly targeting their libraries. Those included Bellarmine University, Arkansas State University, Hampton University, and Franklin & Marshall College .