The Debate Club discussion

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Yes it should. That is what happened, and it should be taught.

Okay. If religion shouldn't be forced or taught to everyone, then neither should evolution. Just saying this, not trying to offend.

And you don't know if that actually happened. Fact and opinion. In the nicest way possible I love you/plat

That is a really good point. Maybe we should consider what someone said in the religion in school discussion. Maybe we should have two different classes, or religious kids going to religious schools.

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "That is a really good point. Maybe we should consider what someone said in the religion in school discussion. Maybe we should have two different classes, or religious kids going to religious schools."

But then we had different schools then you wouldn't have met MEEE

I know :( but neither religion nor non religion should be forced on kids. Evolution is taught in school rn because it doesn't contain religion, and applies to everyone, even if they don't believe in it.

how does it apply to everyone if they don't believe in it? if they refuse to acknowledge it (which yes I do but that's a different discussion) then they won't learn anything relevant to them. or anything they think is relevant to them.

Yes, but science has nothing to do with religion. Theory's generally apply to the world, not just one religion.

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "I know :( but neither religion nor non religion should be forced on kids. Evolution is taught in school rn because it doesn't contain religion, and applies to everyone, even if they don't believe i..."

good point! i say teach the theory of evolution, because it has mounds of evidence going towards it, but make sure to specify that it IS a theory, and as such is unproven.

I mean, its pretty proven, but some people don't believe that. And thats okay.

Rhyleigh wrote: "how does it apply to everyone if they don't believe in it? if they refuse to acknowledge it (which yes I do but that's a different discussion) then they won't learn anything relevant to them. or an..."

It would apply to them because they're human! If someone is human, then the theory of evolution applies to them! ^^
Humans found the evidence for evolution, and though I do believe us humans (specifically white supremacists) twist it to make humans seem hella superior, it has a LOT of evidence for its reality! I believe in God and evolution!

·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "Rhyleigh wrote: "how does it apply to everyone if they don't believe in it? if they refuse to acknowledge it (which yes I do but that's a different discussion) then they won't learn anything releva..."

Exactly! Maybe I'm just bad at explaining things lol

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "Rhyleigh wrote: "how does it apply to everyone if they don't believe in it? if they refuse to acknowledge it (which yes I do but that's a different discussion) then t..."

nah ur good, I'm usually super bad at articulating my thoughts lmao T^T

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Yes, but science has nothing to do with religion. Theory's generally apply to the world, not just one religion."

on the contrary, Christians believe that God created HUMANS. AND MONKEYS. Two separate things. That's what I believe and when I was taught evolution I was angry that they taught this in schools. Like, if they believe in it GREAAAATTTTTT if they don't GREAAAAAAATTTTTTTT but I don't want to hear about it in my classroom that I have no choice but to sit through and not say a word

Really? You seem a lot better than me lol.

Rhyleigh wrote: "Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Yes, but science has nothing to do with religion. Theory's generally apply to the world, not just one religion."

on the contrary, Christians believe that God created..."

IDK OKAY?!?!?!?!?!? THERE MAY BE NO ANSWER TO THIS!!!!!

yeesh no need to yell I was just saying I have to sit through class too and if y'all want to learn it great but not everyone does

Rhyleigh wrote: "Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Yes, but science has nothing to do with religion. Theory's generally apply to the world, not just one religion."

on the contrary, Christians believe that God created..."

Thats where my weird povs come in lmao
a lot of people wont agree with me on this, but my dad does, so hurrah ig?

I believe that God placed humans, created them, in the "correct" place in evolution, at a time where the intelligence compatible thought processes of humans could be better put to use. I believe that us humans can see through the veil more than other creatures on this earth, and that because of that we have more prominent personalities and consciences!!

Like I said, a lot of people wont agree with me, but it helps me keep my love of God and Science alive <3

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Really? You seem a lot better than me lol."

nah, usually its just gibberish lmao

Idk. I don't believe in god. Evolution is just nature, not something some holy being created in my opinion. I don't know how we could avoid the problem of christians being upset about learning about evolution and non Christians learning about God.

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Idk. I don't believe in god. Evolution is just nature, not something some holy being created in my opinion. I don't know how we could avoid the problem of christians being upset about learning abou..."

... maybe not teach any of that in our public schools? Religion or evolution?

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Idk. I don't believe in god. Evolution is just nature, not something some holy being created in my opinion. I don't know how we could avoid the problem of christians being upset about learning abou..."

well, most christains believe that god created all things, not just man. But I like to think of it like this.

Why did god give us wheat and not bread?
Why did god give us grapes and not wine?
Why give the creatures of the world the ability to reproduce when he could create them all himself?
Because he wants us and the world we live in to take part in divine creation.
He wants to share it.
Evolution makes sense to me in this sense.
We can create with the gifts from god, whos to say the earth and its inhabitants cant as well?

But then there would be a lot of unsolved questions about things. I just think that religion shouldn't be included in education unless it is a specific bible/religious school because evolution applies to all humans, religious and non-religious.

·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Idk. I don't believe in god. Evolution is just nature, not something some holy being created in my opinion. I don't know how we could avoid the problem of christians ..."

That makes sense.

cami wrote: "Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Idk. I don't believe in god. Evolution is just nature, not something some holy being created in my opinion. I don't know how we could avoid the problem of christians ..."

yes, its about making children aware of the diversity in the world! Thats why I think they should be taught alongside each other! Teach about evolution, then about the creation stories of different religions!!!

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Idk. I don't believe in god. Evolution is just nature, not something some holy being created in my opinion. I don't know how we could a..."

I can be confusing at times, I'm sorry T^T

For those of you who believe in evolution, trying to get you to understand the situation..... like if I said God may or may not exist but still taught about Him in class, He is ALSO backed by evidence that some people believe and others don't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ How would YOU feel? I don't think you'd like that, would you?

I try to get others to see my pov a lot of the time as you can tell

please tell me if you see anything offensive in anything I say to y'all cuz I feel like what I said was kind of harsh and mean

Rhyleigh wrote: "For those of you who believe in evolution, trying to get you to understand the situation..... like if I said God may or may not exist but still taught about Him in class, He is ALSO backed by evide..."

No, I totally get that! I always try to get people to see mine too! (hense the kinda confusing, low-key poem I wrote up there XD)

Rhyleigh wrote: "please tell me if you see anything offensive in anything I say to y'all cuz I feel like what I said was kind of harsh and mean"

No you're alright! At least what you're saying actually makes sense T^T

·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "Rhyleigh wrote: "For those of you who believe in evolution, trying to get you to understand the situation..... like if I said God may or may not exist but still taught about Him in class, He is ALS..."

lol

Rhyleigh wrote: "For those of you who believe in evolution, trying to get you to understand the situation..... like if I said God may or may not exist but still taught about Him in class, He is ALSO backed by evide..."

To me, there's really no right answer. There is almost no way to teach both subjects or neither at all and still have kids learn. If we put God between science, then where would we get in school? No where. Because God and science very frequently contain very different concepts, so its either one or the other, or two different schools.

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Rhyleigh wrote: "For those of you who believe in evolution, trying to get you to understand the situation..... like if I said God may or may not exist but still taught about Him in class, He is ALS..."

Good point.

let me think.

Kk

Hi! Just gonna add my thoughts. So, I think that evolution should be taught in schools because there is a ton of evidence supporting it (we can discuss that evidence on a different topic). If you don't want to learn about evolution, you can go to a religious school where that's what is taught. Just my opinion, idk, I'm going to continue reading y'all's arguments

CrazyChickenGirl (aka Barnette) wrote: "Hi! Just gonna add my thoughts. So, I think that evolution should be taught in schools because there is a ton of evidence supporting it (we can discuss that evidence on a different topic). If you d..."

We did discuss that quite a lot, but we came to the conclusion that it would seperated society a lot. And I don't want to be away from my potential besties because of religion.

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "CrazyChickenGirl (aka Barnette) wrote: "Hi! Just gonna add my thoughts. So, I think that evolution should be taught in schools because there is a ton of evidence supporting it (we can discuss that ..."

I feel like different schools would create a lot of hate and separation in society. We don't need ANY more of that. Look what white and black schools did: absolutely nothing.

Rhyleigh wrote: "Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "CrazyChickenGirl (aka Barnette) wrote: "Hi! Just gonna add my thoughts. So, I think that evolution should be taught in schools because there is a ton of evidence supp..."

Exactly. I think that maybe we should have more religion taught in school, just so we could see other people's views on it. However, I still think things like evolution should be taught just because.

I think it should be a choice! Like if you want to go to a religious school, you can! but if not, you don't have to! ALSO, making sure religious schools teach about racial and personal diversity in toe world just like normal schools is important. Last time I talked to someone from a christain school, they legit didn't know what a gay person was. they were 23

·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "I think it should be a choice! Like if you want to go to a religious school, you can! but if not, you don't have to! ALSO, making sure religious schools teach about racial and personal diversity in..."

...you sure I'm not just terrible at wording things?

Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "I think it should be a choice! Like if you want to go to a religious school, you can! but if not, you don't have to! ALSO, making sure religious schools teach about r..."

yeah I'm sure buddy ^^

·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "I think it should be a choice! Like if you want to go to a religious school, you can! but if not, you don't have to! ALSO, making sure religious schools teach about racial and personal diversity in..."

uh wait seriously

Rhyleigh wrote: "·.¸¸.·୧♢♥Kipp♥♢୨·.¸¸.· wrote: "I think it should be a choice! Like if you want to go to a religious school, you can! but if not, you don't have to! ALSO, making sure religious schools teach about r..."

wdym seriously? /gen

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Longest debate I've ever done.

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