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yes, absolutely. no one deserves that.
and NOBODY should celebrate this. I totally disagreed with his opinions, but like the student said, we're all human beings, and nobody in this world should be harmed or killed because of their beliefs.
i’ve said this so many times during this debate in grs 😭 i think he didn’t deserve to die, no one does. he definitely didn’t deserve to die in front his WIFE, KIDS, and hundreds of other people. but there’s no denying he wasn’t a good person. he’s (unfortunately and quite ironically) said before that the deaths that come from gun violence (like you know, children who die in school shootings?) are worth it to have the second amendment. he also has said that empathy is a ‘made-up word’. so, it’s at least understandable for why people don’t feel bad for his death. i’m giving him empathy because i want to be better than him. celebrating his death is completely wrong however.
sieraqvt🇻🇳 semi-ia (school) wrote: "i’ve said this so many times during this debate in grs 😭 i think he didn’t deserve to die, no one does. he definitely didn’t deserve to die in front his WIFE, KIDS, and hundreds of other people. bu..."completely agree
Dude I don't care who the fork you areIf you are CELEBRATING the death of someone, especially if they have a wife and kids, not even that, just celebrating death in general, then you are sick. His daughter won't have a father to walk her down the aisle now.
Also, if people are going to get shot simply because people disagree with their beliefs then where is free speech? The people celebrating Charlie's death are not only cruel and evil but they're also dumb. If people shot everyone who had differing opinions, which seems like we're leaning towards that direction now, free speech is gone and you're left with people who will FORCE their opinions on you and don't allow for any other opinions.
i’m agree. but also, charlie openly supported a man who’s trying to take free speech away. it’s a bit contradictory that people have only started caring after ‘one of their own died.’
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If you are CELEBRATING the death of someone, especially if they have a wife and kids, not even that, just celebrating death in general, then you are sick. His..."
yeah, like a lot of people who're against trump are super free-speech oriented but now you're celebrating his death? like what?
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i agree! though we shouldn't shame them for caring this time, we should shame them for not caring all those other times
Sai :) wrote: "sieraqvt🇻🇳 semi-ia (school) wrote: "i agree! though we shouldn't shame them for caring this time, we should shame them for not caring all those other times"absolutely!
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Charlie Kirk wasn’t a good person. And I don’t agree with his death, but he would have. He said himself that occasional shootings and deaths by guns were worth it to keep no gun laws.
So it is sad and I will not be celebrating whatsoever, but I won’t be mourning his death, because if it were another debater (dean withers/parker etc) he wouldn’t mourn theirs at all.
charlie kirk did not deserve to be shot. no one deserves that, PERIOD. people who celebrate the assassination of charlie kirk are disgusting and evil. death should be mourned, not celebrated. what has it come to when we’re making videos of how happy we are when someone gets shot in front on 100s of people? it’s wrong and honestly so gross.
Hey! So i just joined this group but i have a lot of opinions about this. I believe that Charlie Kirk did not deserve to die that way. I am not sad about his death, however, I am sad that gun violence is still something we have to worry about in this country. He never deserved to die that way, no one does. If you are celebrating his death, you are celebrating the laws we are trying to fight against. But on the flip side, yes his children will be traumatized, but the children in the school shootings have watched their friends die and were traumatized, children who have to give birth are traumatized. Charlie kirk was an awful person, but no one deserves that. PERIOD
honestly I got no idea cause i don’t really know too much about him, but he was a HORRIBLE person. i don’t think his kids and wife deserved to see him die, but he was definitely not a good person yk
i often find myself disagreeing with him. recent events haven't changed my opinion on him at all. that being said, hes a father and a husband. discussing someones death in a celebratory manner is something i dont and will never condone. hes not someone i idolize. but do you seriously lack that much empathy to be incapable of sympathizing? two children just lost their father. a woman just lost her husband. this has definitely made a traumatizing impact on their situation, their family, their life. might i remind you, his two kids were in that audience. watching that entire thing happen. they WITNESSED it. sure, you watched one of the most globally disliked men die. maybe you hated him yourself. but note, that same man you watched die, was a father, to two kids who witnessed the same thing that you did. take a moment and decipher the emotions and feelings they’re going through. that’s going to stick with those two kids for the rest of their lives. when charlie kirk died some of you felt victorious, two other children felt traumatized. and they are, and will be, for the rest of their lives, traumatized. no matter how much i dislike him, putting my strong, opinionated views aside, i desperately hope his family is doing okay. my condolences and prayers to everyone that this has had an impact on.it’s deranged how many posts i’ve seen that say; “realizing i’ve never hated charlie kirk”, “charlie kirk had balanced views”. a deceased man is not a good man; nor a righteous man. how someone can drastically change their morals in an attempt to sympathize with someone is beyond me. this is charlie kirk, the man who compared abortion to the holocaust, that we’re talking about. your ideologies may differ from mine, but it is my belief that he was not somebody that i ever idolized, nor will i ever idolize. my morals are my morals, and they will stay the same, even under these newcome circumstances.
leniency towards gun laws was something that charlie kirk was a strong advocate for. charlie kirk was shot. he was shot at a campus event in utah. to all conservatives, note that this is what you are advocating for. two kids had to watch their father get shot and die right in front of them that night. are we even aware of how many children have had to witness that in gaza? let this be an eye-opening. in case my views weren’t clear; gun-violence should NOT be condoned, and my prayers go to the kirk family. thank you for your time.
𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒚 𐚁ㅤ۪ ꒰𝒎𝒊𝒍𝒐𝒔 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒊𝒐 wrote: "charlie kirk did not deserve to be shot. no one deserves that, PERIOD. people who celebrate the assassination of charlie kirk are disgusting and evil. death should be mourned, not celebrated. what ..."no one is celebrating his death, we just choose not to mourn him because he was a terrible person
there's def a difference
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soph ₊˚ෆ (joey's version) 🍉 wrote: "𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒚 𐚁ㅤ۪ ꒰𝒎𝒊𝒍𝒐𝒔 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒊𝒐 wrote: "charlie kirk did not deserve to be shot. no one deserves that, PERIOD. people who celebrate the assassination of charlie kirk are disgusting and evil. death should be..."i agree, but some people genuinely were posting positive things about his death, which isnt ok
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No he didn’t deserve to die, but I can’t mourn someone who was so obviously horrible. He wa San awful person.
@tessie exactly, a persons faults and horrible words don’t go away just because they’ve died. he stood for those things, he should be remembered like that. he’d want to be remembered like that actually.
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Agreed but nobody here said it was, honestly. It’s not okay that he was killed but there was a shooting where children died just the day after, that’s had no attention at all. Why should such a disgusting (sorry) human being get so much sympathy but there’s nothing for the literal innocent children shot? Charlie Kirk doesn’t deserve to be mourned, I’m sorry to say it. Yes he was a human and for that he did not deserve to die, but his action grant him the right not to be mourned.
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Agreed but nobody here said it was, honestly. It’s not okay that he..."
he is a disgusting human being, but honestly that's the thing. we should be using this not to ignore his death alongside those of the innocent kids, but to ask people who're mourning him but not the shot children to mourn both.
i-i’m disgusted actually.
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Agreed but nobody here said it was, honestly. It’s n..."
I won’t mourn him at all and in my personal opinion which I know a lot won’t agree with and I don’t expect them to, I don’t believe he deserves sympathy.
But I do see where you’re coming from.
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I will say though, he was absolutely disgusting and we should not remember him as a good person
Oh wow who ever made this topic wanted war LMAO
I HATE when people think I’m celebrating his death. I am NOT doing so but I will not miss him nor mourn for him. It’s actually crazy how people are mourning for this man after he supports making abortion illegal even if the woman was raped or might die if she does give birth, supports trump, and has rape allegations. He also once said he doesn’t believe in empathy so why should I emphasize with him? Why do people call me heartless when I don’t?
My thoughts- Gun control, like vaccines and masks, is focused on making people feel 'safe' by taking freedoms away from others. Don't fall for it." - Charlie Kirk
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually," “I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage." - Charlie Kirk
There is another dead man in America. He is joined by the 515 children killed in school shootings between 2000 and 2022, the 12 people who died in ICE custody between October 2024 and now, the nearly 50,000 killed in Gaza since October 2023, including nearly 18,000 children, Melissa and Mark Hortman and their dog, who were asassinated in their home, and the hundreds and thousands of other victims of unspeakable violence.
I would like to be very clear in one thing: I disagree fundamentally with every single thing that Charlie Kirk stood for. But he should not have been killed like that. Gun violence is wrong, regardless of its victim. Point blank period.
However, I do not mourn him. I do not feel for him. His children and the students who witnessed that event? Absolutely, that is horrible to see. Nobody should get to play God with another’s life. But I will not pretend to care about that man. Not only did he not have empathy for the victims of school and mass shootings, police brutality, abortion bans, the Palestinian genocide, or anyone else who did not ideologically agree with him, but he was actively against the concept. If he would not mourn himself had the situations been reversed, why should I? I think that this event is less about him, and more about the shifting ideology in America, and the problem within our culture.
I do not think that I am the ultimate judge of morality. But if the first political thing that you feel the need to post, the thing that makes you finally take a stand against gun violence is not the children whose blood is just as red and brutal as his, the families that bullets literally and figuratively rip apart, I think you need to take stock of your priorities. You do not get to pretend to have moral high ground because you feel bad for Charlie Kirk. You are allowed to feel that way, but that does not make anyone who has a different perspective a bad person who lacks humanity. We tend to glorify people after death, and that needs to stop. He was a father and a husband, yes, but he was also a white supremacist, a misoginist, a homophobe, a transphobe, and did a massive amount of damage to many marginalized communities. Those don’t cancel out. Bad people die too.
At the same time as his death, there were children in Colorado cowering in classrooms. Again. Something needs to change.
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Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman, husband killed in attack - Session Daily - Minnesota House of Representatives
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livi 🎀 wrote: "My thoughts- Gun control, like vaccines and masks, is focused on making people feel 'safe' by taking freedoms away from others. Don't fall for it." - Charlie Kirk
"I can't stand the word empathy..."
I love this so much clock that tea xx
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Ok. I just read through this whole thing. First-
Charlie Kirk was a wonderful man. He was a loving husband and father and an unashamed follower of Christ. He was a voice of truth for our generation.
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What happened to him was NOT ok. It was clearly an attack and a threat to fellow Christians and conservatives who dare try to speak up.
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As for the gun violence stuff being brought up, context is important.
Charlie Kirk on gun control:
"Yeah, it's a great question. Thank you. So, I'm a big Second Amendment fan but I think most politicians are cowards when it comes to defending why we have a Second Amendment. This is why I would not be a good politician, or maybe I would, I don't know, because I actually speak my mind.
The Second Amendment is not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second Amendment is there, God forbid, so that you can defend yourself against a tyrannical government. And if that talk scares you — "wow, that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that" — well then, you have not really read any of the literature of our Founding Fathers. Number two, you've not read any 20th-century history. You're just living in Narnia. By the way, if you're actually living in Narnia, you would be wiser than wherever you're living, because C.S. Lewis was really smart. So I don't know what alternative universe you're living in. You just don't want to face reality that governments tend to get tyrannical and that if people need an ability to protect themselves and their communities and their families.
Now, we must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price. 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That's a price. You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving — speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services — is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. So we need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. You could significantly reduce them through having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.
You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I, I — I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.
So then, how do you reduce? Very simple. People say, oh, Charlie, how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How did we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have armed guards outside of baseball games. That's why. How did we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed guards outside of airports. How do we stop all the shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks. How did we stop all the shootings at gun shows? Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows, there's all these guns. Because everyone's armed. If our money and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards, why don't our children?"
-- Charlie Kirk, 4/5/2023
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Feel free to PM me as I am willing and eager to discuss, debate, and hear others’ views on this. I pray for this world and for Charlie Kirk’s wife, Erika, and her two daughters. I am heartbroken for them and have found myself sobbing for them.
I hope to be a “Charlie Kirk” some day. To have the knowledge, courage, and boldness to speak up, speak the truth, and most importantly- speak and share the words and love of Christ.
Thank you for your time.
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Second- agreed what happened was not okay. But it was actually done by another conservative, god following man. The shooters father wa sa police officer, him and his family were Mormon. They had similar beliefs. This wasn’t an attack on Christian’s. This was another shooting. Jus t like the ones where CHILDREN have died but were paid no mind because of people like Charlie.
Thirdly- You’re right, context is important. But in some cases no context can excuse the actual words. And I see you have nothing to say about his racist or homophobic quotes.
Also, if you want to be Charlie Kirk, you disgust me, I’m sorry. It’s really sad to see people who are the future of this country ASPIRE to be homophobic, misogynistic, and racist.
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Syd wrote: "He was not racist, he was just against black people being above white people. He was for equality. Yes he was against LGBTQ and I am too, there's really nothing wrong with not agreeing with homosex..."ohh boy lol. charlie was in fact openly racist, sexist, and homophobic. and there is something wrong with not "agreeing with homosexuality" if you're literally insulting people's existence. in addition, he compared abortion to the holocaust, justified a 10-year-old giving birth (view spoiler), and he said that a few "unfortunate gun related deaths" are worth it if we get to keep the second amendment. he ironically and unintentionally justified his own death. he also said that we should bring back public executions and force children to watch because it would "lower the crime rate in america". but yes, please tell me more about what a good man he was
and i've mentioned this before in other posts, but what really pisses me off about this is that everyone is talking about this shooting. what about the 17 year old girl who was killed in a gang shooting? what about the pregnant woman who was shot outside her apartment building? what about melissa and mark hortman? what about the 47,000 gun related deaths committed in a year in america? i don't see anyone advocating for them. but as soon as it's a white man in politics everyone gets all "omg praying for him!" "this is just awful!" like bsfr it was never just about raising awareness about the shooting was it
no one is celebrating his death, i just choose not to mourn a man who literally said that he doesn't believe in empathy. he wouldn't have mourned you. anyone else would've been an "unfortunate" death that came with having Second amendment rights
𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒚 𐚁ㅤ۪ ꒰𝒎𝒊𝒍𝒐𝒔 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒊𝒐 wrote: "charlie kirk did not deserve to be shot. no one deserves that, PERIOD. people who celebrate the assassination of charlie kirk are disgusting and evil. death should be mourned, not celebrated. what ..."I’m not celebrating his death, but in no way will I mourn him either. He said it was worth a few deaths by guns for us to have the right to have them. Kind of ironic that’s how he died huh? Now everyone that supported him is mad that he died? Hm.
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Ok here I go again.@Tessie - I’m gonna give you some inside stuff about myself that I don’t usually share.
I was very brainwashed and pro-LGBTQ+ from the age 12-17. I’m 18. God saved me a week after my 17th birthday. I was lesbian. I was horrible to my parents. I was depressed and anxious and sui*dal. I jumped off my roof to run away from home to be with my gf. It was by God’s grace that I didn’t die jumping off that roof. A lot happened. I ended up giving my life to Jesus in my grandparents’ bathroom floor as I sobbed on the night of July 8th, 2024. I can give you SO MANY scripture references and verses that CLEARLY state how anything to do with LGBT is blatantly wrong and evil. It’s a devil agenda. If you want references lmk and I’ll drop some in here. Anyways, Charlie wasn’t being homophobic. Homophobia is the FEAR of gay people. He was not afraid of gay people. I am not afraid of gay people. I was one. (Was- being the key word here) He was speaking the TRUTH. Would you rather have had him lie to their faces and tell them that what they were and are doing was right? I think that’s cruel to keep the truth from someone. Especially when that truth is essential to them and their relationship with God.
As Christians, we can love people without agreeing and accepting what they’re doing. Jesus did just that.
Hope this helps
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you weren’t ‘brainwashed’ maybe you were confused or literally just trying to figure out who you were. or maybe you’re still closeted now, but i don’t want to assume anything about you. this isn’t a place to preach either. and also, homophobia isn’t considered the fear lgbtq people, it’s the hatred of the community, which he did hate the community. he’s openly expressed his disdain multiple times. he was not a good person.
also it’s been proved that being lgbtq is not a choice or the ‘devils agenda’ you can’t control it, and it’s very very bad for your mental health to ‘resist’ it. but this isn’t the topic for that (there’s a whole thread on whether or not being lgbtq is a choice btw!)
He didn’t hate. I don’t hate. He loved people enough to actually care to tell them the truth. If he didn’t care or love, he wouldn’t have bothered.
And I absolutely was brainwashed. Also, this isn’t a place to preach the gospel? Yet you’re here practically preaching about sexuality?? 🤨
Av! (Hiatus) wrote: "He didn’t hate. I don’t hate. He loved people enough to actually care to tell them the truth. If he didn’t care or love, he wouldn’t have bothered."he kinda did hate though lmao, there's been scientific studies that prove being lqbtq is not a choice and you were born that way (but that's a different conversation)
It very much is a choice. Loving someone is a choice. Loving is choosing. Choosing is a choice. God gave us choice because He wanted us to choose to love Him and not be forced to like robots.
ah, apologies if you thought i was preaching anything! but also, he called trans people an abomination. does that not seem hateful to you?
it’s… it’s been proven that being queer is not a choice. do you look around at someone and decide that you’ll have a crush on them? when did you choose to be straight?
God is not a hateful God and yet He called things abominations. Abomination comes from the word abominate which comes from the Latin word abominat- which means “averted”
