The Mookse and the Gripes discussion

Usual rules.

These are the 6 shortlisted books:

Flashlight by Susan Choi (Jonathan Cape)
The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai (Hogarth)
Audition by Katie Kitamura (Fern Press)
The Rest of Our Lives by Ben Markovits (Faber & Faber)
The Land in Winter by Andrew Miller (Sceptre)
Flesh by David Szalay (Jonathan Cape)

League Tables

(i) Shortlist rankings only:

My adjusted weightings method:

Pos, Book, Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places, STD
1, The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai, 2.69, 1.81, 16, 6, 0.94
2, The Land in Winter by Andrew Miller, 2.76, 1.95, 25, 8, 1.20
3, Audition by Katie Kitamura, 2.59, 2.00, 34, 8, 1.28
4, Flashlight by Susan Choi, 3.11, 2.40, 28, 4, 1.36
5, Flesh by David Szalay, 3.29, 2.56, 31, 4, 1.46
6, The Rest of Our Lives by Ben Markovits, 4.92, 4.10, 25, 0, 1.90

Paul-style aggregate of comparisons

Pos, Book, Average, Relative ranking, Count, First Places
1, Audition by Katie Kitamura, 2.59, 32, 34, 8
2, The Land in Winter by Andrew Miller, 2.76, 24, 25, 8
3, The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai, 2.69, 20, 16, 6
4, Flashlight by Susan Choi, 3.11, 4, 28, 4
5, Flesh by David Szalay, 3.29, -7, 31, 4
6, The Rest of Our Lives by Ben Markovits, 4.92, -73, 25, 0

(ii) Including longlist rankings:

My adjusted weightings method:

Pos, Book, Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places, STD
1, The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai, 2.53, 1.63, 19, 7, 0.94
2, Audition by Katie Kitamura, 2.32, 2.03, 63, 22, 1.66
3, The Land in Winter by Andrew Miller, 2.63, 2.03, 38, 10, 1.39
4, Flashlight by Susan Choi, 2.86, 2.37, 44, 11, 1.64
5, Flesh by David Szalay, 2.90, 2.43, 52, 10, 1.62
6, The Rest of Our Lives by Ben Markovits, 4.70, 4.04, 33, 1, 2.05

Paul-style aggregate of comparisons

Pos, Book, Average, Relative ranking, Count, First Places
1, Audition by Katie Kitamura, 2.32, 33, 63, 22
2, The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny by Kiran Desai, 2.53, 31, 19, 7
2, The Land in Winter by Andrew Miller, 2.63, 31, 38, 10
4, Flashlight by Susan Choi, 2.86, 4, 44, 11
5, Flesh by David Szalay, 2.90, -7, 52, 10
6, The Rest of Our Lives by Ben Markovits, 4.70, -92, 33, 1

Just double checked everything. I wish GoodReads had a better user identity than just the forename, as it makes the process of moving from longlist to shortlist much more difficult to check. I know that the user number is unique, but it is not visible unless I mouse-hover over every single name!

1. Flashlight
2. Audition
3. Flesh
4.
5. The Land in Winter
6. The Rest of Our Lives

1 The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
2 Audition
3 Flashlight
4 The Land in Winter
5 The Rest of Our Lives
6 Flesh

1. Flashlight
2. Flesh
3. Audition

1. Flesh (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)

****
2. Audition (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
3. Flashlight (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
4. The Rest of our Lives (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
5. The Land in Winter (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
6. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny (Still reading)

1. Audition
2. Flesh
3. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
4. Flashlight

1. Audition - 5*
2. Flashlight - 4.5*
3. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny - 4*
4. The Land in Winter - 3*
5. The Rest of Our Lives - 2.5*
6. Flesh - 2*

1. Flashlight
2. Flesh
3. The Loneliness Of Sonia And Sunny
4. The Rest Of Our Lives
5. Audition
6. The Land In Winter

1.
2. Flashlight
3.
4. Audition

1. Flesh
2. The Land in Winter
3. Audition
4.
5.
6.

1. The Land in Winter
2. Audition
3. Flesh
4. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
5. Flashlight
6. The Rest of Our Lives

I did not like the characters in The Land in Winter, but I think it's the best written book.

1. Audition (6*)

and won't read rest

1. Audition
2. Flashlight
3. Flesh
4.
5.
6. The rest of our lives

1. Audition
2. Land in Winter
3. Flesh
4. Flashlight
5. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
6. The Rest of Our Lives

After two reads - contemplating a third of each book

Audition - 5*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny - 4.5*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
The Land In Winter - 4*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
Flashlight - 4*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
Flesh - 3.5*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
The Rest of Our Lives - 3*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

1. Flesh
2. The Land in Winter
3. Flashlight
4. Audition
5. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
6. The Rest of Our Lives

1. The Land in Winter
2. The Rest of Our Lives
3. Audition
4.
5. Flashlight
6. Flesh

No idea where the Desai will slot in here.

1. The Land in Winter
2. Flashlight
3. Audition

1. Flashlight
2. Flesh
3. Audition
4. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
5. The Land In Winter
6. The Rest of Our Lives

1. The Land in Winter
2. Audition
3. Flashlight
5. The Rest of Our Lives
6. Flesh

1. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
2. Audition
3. Flesh

1.Audition 5*
2. The Land in Winter 5*
3. Flashlight 5*
4. Flesh 4.5
5.
6. The Rest of Our Lives

For me 1 & 2 are a dead heat and I will be happy if 1, 2, or 3 win. Now beginning Sonia and Sunny.

1.
2. The Land in Winter
3. Flesh
4. Audition
5. Flashlight
6. The Rest of Our Lives

1. Audition
2. The Rest of Our Lives
3. Flesh
4. Flashlight
5. The land in Winter

1.
2.
3. Flesh
4.
5. Audition
6.

1. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
2. Flashlight
3. Audition
4. The Land in Winter
5. Flesh
6. The Rest of Our Lives

1. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny - 5*
2. Audition - 5*
3. Flesh -5*
4. Flashlight - 3.5*

1. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny 5* https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
2. The Land in Winter 4*
3. Flesh 4*
4. Audition 3.5*
5. The Rest of Our Lives 3* https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
6. Flashlight 2.5* https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

1. The Land in Winter
2. Flashlight
3. Flesh
4. Audition
5. Sonia and Sunny
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6. The Rest of Our Lives

1. The Land in Winter
2. Flesh
3. Audition
4. The Rest of Our Lives
5. Flashlight

(still waiting on Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny, won't get to it before the prize is announced)

1. The Loneliness of Sonia & Sunny
2. Audition
3. The Land In Winter
4. The Rest of Our Lives
5. Flashlight
6. Flesh

1. The Land in Winter ( going to reread before final placing)
2. Flesh
3. Flashlight
4. Audition
5. The rest of our lives

Just started The loneliness of S and S

I also read Seascraper and Endling and could have substituted in place of The rest of our lives

1. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
2. The Land in Winter
3. Audition
4. Flashlight
5. The Rest of Our Lives
6. Flesh

1. The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
2. Audition
3. Flashlight
4. Flesh
5. The Land in Winter
6. The Rest of Our Lived

1-2. Flesh / Audition
3. Land in Winter
4. The Rest of Our Lives

2. The Rest Of Our Lives
4. Flesh
5. Audition

1 The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny
2 The Land in Winter
3 Flashlight
4 Flesh
5 Audition
6 The Rest of Our Lives