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This Is Not The Michael You're Looking For What is everyone's opinion on the status of Cliffs Notes? As of now, the vast majority (although not quite all) of Cliffs Notes have the author equal to the author of the book which they are the notes for. My opinion is these should have the author as "Cliffs Notes" since they are produced by the company rather than by the author of the book itself. This policy (one way or the author) would apply to other study guides and similar materials as well.


message 2: by rivka (new)

rivka I agree. The author of the original book can go in the second author slot.


message 3: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) soo, here, us medicine cat ppl can post the days that would work for us to have moonpool. i warn u now, my dad is more likely to let me on if it's a weekend.


This Is Not The Michael You're Looking For Should they be included as an author at all?


message 5: by rivka (new)

rivka I would -- makes it easier to find them.

At least, when the search is cooperating, it does. ;)


message 6: by This Is Not The Michael You're Looking For (last edited Apr 22, 2008 11:57PM) (new)

This Is Not The Michael You're Looking For What if the name were in the title? If you actually look at the covers, most are actually called things like "Salinger's Catcher in the Rye" rather than just "Catcher in the Rye" (although the titles in GR often do not reflect this thanks to Amazon).

And of course there are other exceptions, such as Cliff Notes to the Bible, which is by Charles H. Patterson. If we take the standard Cliff Notes pattern, I guess he must be the original author... Who knew?


message 7: by rivka (new)

rivka *shrug* I would put the original author in slot 2 regardless.


message 8: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (cheshire) | 5713 comments Great! Should it be this weekend or the next?


message 9: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) umm, this weekend works, and i have NO clue what im doin next weekend... i'll go check


message 10: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) either time would work for me. hey, isnt sella a mdicine cat? cuz if she is, we should do it next weekend, cuz she's not home this weekend.


message 11: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (cheshire) | 5713 comments Oh yeah! You're right.


message 12: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments Actually, I have internet connection in Tahoe! But most of the time, I'll be snowboarding and stuff, so I think it's best if we do it next weekend. :)


message 13: by Snow (last edited Apr 24, 2008 11:37PM) (new)

Snow (kdskid007) so, next week sat, or sun? either works for me.


message 14: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (cheshire) | 5713 comments Saturday, but could it please be after 7, my time?


message 15: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) soo, 9 my time... sure! dont know what time that'd b 4 u sella... works for me! i will butter up my dad, and then ask him. it works almost evry time!


message 16: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments This Saturday, or next Saturday? And...If I'm in Pacific Time Zone, then what time would Morgan's 7 be for me?


message 17: by Allie, You make me happy whether you know it or not (new)

Allie (pearlrose95) | 13023 comments Mod
6 o'clock.


message 18: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments Okay, that's good for me!


message 19: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) next saturday, the 3rd of may. right?


message 20: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments Yup. At 6 for me, 7 for Morgan, and 9 for you, right?


message 21: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) yep. sounds bout right.


message 22: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments Wait!! No! Sorry, I just realized that May 3 won't do at all...that's when I'm going to my friend's bat mitzvah! The service is in the morning, and the party is in the afternoon/evening, and it usually continues on until after midnight...:'( how about sunday?


message 23: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) sunday would work for me... allright w/ u morgan?


message 24: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (cheshire) | 5713 comments Call me a complete puritan, but I don't want to have to do StarClan stuff on a Sunday. Sorry..... We could do it the next Tuesday.


message 25: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) umm... thurs? i can try, but the weekend would honestly b better for me, cuz im more likely to b able to get on...


message 26: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (cheshire) | 5713 comments No, Tuesday.


message 27: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) oh. well, tues still isnt the greatest for me to get on... i normally get loads of hw evry nite, though the load stays the same ovr the weekend. srry for the confusion! misread it...


message 28: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) *sigh* i want to start moonpool soooo bad rite now.... sella? morgan? r u both on? can i start it? plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz?


message 29: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) k, so, we moved the date to today, the 26th of April.


message 30: by Willowmist, Bankai, Daiguren Hyōurinmaru! Willow come back! (new)

Willowmist | 7835 comments Mod
The 26th of April...so when's the next one?


message 31: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) dunno, after the next gathering, which is currently set for Sun, May 4th, early in the morning.


message 32: by Willowmist, Bankai, Daiguren Hyōurinmaru! Willow come back! (new)

Willowmist | 7835 comments Mod
Yup, okayz.


message 33: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments I missed another gathering! *smacks forehead* Oh well, I was at my friend's bat mitzvah, and it was extremely fun, so yeah. When's the next moonpool?


message 34: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (cheshire) | 5713 comments No idea. Friday sound good?


message 35: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments Yup!


message 36: by [deleted user] (new)

i need to be there....


message 37: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) like, this fri? the 9th? crap. it works, but I WILL BE BRAIN-DEAD!!! i hv my ap exam at skool that day, and it lasts for like, 5 hrs... i'll be there!, just braindead... and could we wait till 9-10 my time? so... thats eastern time... i wont b able to get on till after dinner time for me, and i gotta sweeten up my dad... but I WILL BE THERE!


message 38: by Willowmist, Bankai, Daiguren Hyōurinmaru! Willow come back! (new)

Willowmist | 7835 comments Mod
Ugh...what time? It depends...I have piano...


message 39: by Lasairfiona (new)

Lasairfiona So should we put "Cliffs Notes" in slot 1, the original author (such as J.D. Saliger) in slot 2, and the author of the cliffs notes in slot 3?


message 40: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (cheshire) | 5713 comments I should be able to do that.


message 41: by rivka (new)

rivka I didn't think Cliff's Notes publications HAD an individual author listed. If they do, I'd say they should be first, no?


message 42: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) umm, after dinner-ish for us willow? would that work? cuz ur on the east coast, right? would that work for u?


message 43: by Lasairfiona (last edited May 06, 2008 11:56AM) (new)

Lasairfiona I have found the authors by the LoC. So to be clear:
slot 1: author of the cliff notes
slot 2: author: Cliffs Notes
slot 3: author of book being cliff noted

Sound good? I only keep the cliffs notes in there as an author per the above discussion which I took to mean that we could keep all the cliffs notes together. And I included author of the book being noted for ease of searching.


message 44: by Willowmist, Bankai, Daiguren Hyōurinmaru! Willow come back! (new)

Willowmist | 7835 comments Mod
After dinner-ish? I guess, maybe...maybe? So I finish dinner at like, 7 or so...


message 45: by rivka (new)

rivka Sounds good to me. :)


message 46: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) i can generally get on around 9-ish... cuz i gotta wait for sibs to go to bed... othrwise they'll whine bout how much im on...


message 47: by Willowmist, Bankai, Daiguren Hyōurinmaru! Willow come back! (new)

Willowmist | 7835 comments Mod
I'm most available after school, which is like 4-6 eastern time...I can sneak on easily. :P


message 48: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) uh... that wont work 4 me... srry! my dad duznt bring the laptop home till dinner time, and then we gotta eat, and then my sibs wanna go on, so... SRRY!


message 49: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin | 2194 comments I can go on a bit late.


message 50: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) later works for me...


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