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THE END-TIMES AND THE COMING OF A WORLD REDEEMER

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message 1: by Kobina (new)

Kobina Amissah-Fynn (kafy) | 0 comments Mod
Are the end times really related to the Second Coming of Christ? Do other Religions have the expectation of the appearance of a World Redeemer to restore the divine order? What interesting book have you read concerning this topic? Can you share insights from the book on the matter?


message 2: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Yes: I'm not sure why theologins can't understand that there will be one more person that will be on the earth before Jesus can return. Jesus spoke in parables, could he return without the parables being explained. They say that John the Baptist was Elijah, but how could that be when Elijah is to come in the end time. Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: My nonfiction book is the best I can do on the subject. Everything about God is matter or energy, why would He change when it came to salvation. I found out it is physical. Nicodemus asked Jesus, is being born again like the birth of a baby? Jesus never directly answeared him, but He never rebuked him either. I found out it is physical.


message 3: by Kobina (new)

Kobina Amissah-Fynn (kafy) | 0 comments Mod
Hi Mickey,

I found your take on this subject very interesting. The subject of Elijah’s return is also taken up in my book: Gatekeepers – The Quest for Clues to an Age-Old Riddle (a fictional novel), but from a slightly different angle.

It is important to note that the Jews also believed that Elijah would come first before “the great and dreadful day” of their Messiah (which was fulfilled at the First Coming of Jesus). This expectation of the Jews is verifiable in John 1:21 and Matthew 17:10. Christ not only validated this expectation, but asserted that it had been fulfilled in the person of John the Baptist [Matthew 17:11-13]. It is also worth noting that the Apostles did consider the days of Christ as “the last days” [Acts 2:16-17]. It was certainly “the last days” of the Dispensation of Moses; but not the “last days” of humanity.

I found your statement that Elijah will come first before (the Second Coming of) Jesus as very profound. It is plausible insofar as the Second Coming could be a replica of the First. My book explores this possibility by first focusing on Jesus’ prediction that His return would be like the days of Noah, and then demonstrating how the First Coming was similarly like the days of Noah. (Refer to Gatekeepers for details.)

Should the Second Coming have similarities with the First Coming, then the role of the Elijah of the last day would, like the First Coming, be that of a Forerunner to prepare humanity for that Great Day.

There are so many “dogmas” out there concerning the last day. The Gatekeepers book encourages the reader to have an open mind about what that day will bring.


message 4: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments In St John 1:21 John said he was not Elijah. In Matthew 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. The Jews expected him but the last days is more like today then 2010 years ago. Jesus spoke in parables, it wouldn't be fair for no one to explain the parables,or allogory parables, before He comes back. 12 it says Elijah is come already. Where is the common sense? in Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD. How great and dreadful was the time of the birth of Jesus and John? It was dreadful but it was only in the sense of the leadership of Rome. In the last days such as today nature is going to turn on mankind. Not only that but I don't go to any church, which one of them has the right doctrine?

You brought up The Acts, I believe Paul was the advocate for Satan. St John 5;43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: (Jesus) if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.(Paul) Isaiah 14:12-14

I can't see how you can believe Jesus at his birth had any thing to do with Noah at that time. The first time their was destruction in Noah's time. So there will be destruction as in the days of Noah in the last days or the end time. St Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah WERE, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE.

In my book it explaines what it means to be born again and receiveing the Holy Ghost Exekiel 36:26-25-27. I believe I am Elijah for this despensation.


message 5: by Kobina (new)

Kobina Amissah-Fynn (kafy) | 0 comments Mod
Your points of view are respected and are well taken, Mickey. There is one more thing about the coming of Elijah that I omitted to mention. Many Muslim sects also believe in the coming of Prophet Issa (Jesus) in the last days. They however do not ascribe to the view that Jesus would come to gather the Christians alone to paradise; rather, that He would come to renew and revitalize Islam and present it as the final religion for mankind before the world ends. Islamic traditions also mention the coming of another personality before Prophet Issa, and the title he is known by is that of "the Mahdi".


message 6: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments The title of my book is "The Way The Truth And The Life" If you want to wait for Issa (Prophet?) and Mahdi that is your paradox. The rest of the cover on my book is Tomas saith unto him, Lord we know not whither thou goest; and how can we Know the way; no man cometh unto the Father but by me.


message 7: by Mont'ster (new)

Mont'ster | 6 comments Mickey wrote: You brought up The Acts, I believe Paul was the advocate for Satan.

Mickey, please clarify something for me. I am confused - Kobina made a reference to Acts chapter 2. What does that have to do with Paul? The first mention of Paul in the book of Acts is in Acts 7:58 at the stoning of Stephen. (This was before he changed his name from "Saul" to "Paul".)


message 8: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Mont'ster wrote: "Mickey wrote: You brought up The Acts, I believe Paul was the advocate for Satan.

Mickey, please clarify something for me. I am confused - Kobina made a reference to Acts chapter 2. What does ..."
I don't read any part of The acts thru Jude. After I was saved every time I started reading, "The Acts" God put a nauseous feeling on me until I realized that those books have nothing to do with the Gospel that Jesus brought. I did manage to read about Paul's coversion and it was nothing like the way I was saved. I was saved exactly like Ezekiel 36: 26-25-27 You will notice two things NEW HEART AND NEW SPIRIT the Holy Ghost is a spirit but seperate from the sprit mentioned in Genesis. Salvation is physical the heart that I was born with removed and replaced by God. Isn't sin in the heart?




message 9: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmauk007) Before leaving the earth, Jesus promised to return. Events in connection with Gods kingdom are associated with that promise. It should be noted that there is a difference between coming and presence. Thus while a person’s coming (associated with his arrival or return) occurs at a given time, his presence may thereafter extend over a period of years. The Greek word er’kho-mai “to come” is also used in reference to Jesus directing his attention to an important task at a specific time during his presence, namely to his work as Gods executioner at the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
At Matthew 24:37 the Greek word pa-rou-sia is used literally it means “being alongside” the sense of this word is identified in Philippians 2:12 where Paul contrasts his presence (parousia) with his absence . On the other hand in Matthew 24:30, which tells of the son of man coming on the clouds of heaven, the Greek word er-kho-non is used. There is a difference between the two.

John 14:19 Jesus had promised his apostles that he would come again and take them away to heaven to be with him. He said the world would not see him again 1 Timothy 6:16
Acts 13:34 Jesus will never again have a corruptible body
Acts 1:9-11 Jesus will come in the same manner, not the same body. The manner of Jesus departure was observed only by his faithful disciples. The world in general was not aware of what happened. The same would be true of Christ’s return.
How does every eye see him then?
Revelation 1:7, Matthew 24:30,luke 21:27
What is indicated by clouds/ Invisibility. When an airplane is in a thick cloud or above the clouds, people on the earth cannot see it. Although they can hear the roar of its engines. God told Moses “I am coming to you in a dark cloud” Moses did not see God, but that cloud indicated Gods invisible presence (Exodus 19:9) Leviticus 16:2
If Christ were to appear visibly in the heavens, t is obvous that not “every eye” would see him. If he appeared over Australia, he would not be visible in Europe and the Americas would he?
So in what sense will “every eye see him” They will discern from events on the earth that he is invisibly present. John 9:41 Jesus said to the Pharisees “if you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say “we see, your sin remains” Following Christ’s return, some persons show faith, they recognize the sign of his presence. Others on the other hand reject the evidence, but when Christ goes into action as Gods executioner of the wicked, even they will discern from the manifestation of his power, that the destruction is not from men but from heaven.

Dan 7:13,14, Matt 25:31-33
1Thess 4; 15, 16, 2Thess 1; 7-9, Luke 23:42, 43





message 10: by Kobina (new)

Kobina Amissah-Fynn (kafy) | 0 comments Mod
Mickey wrote: "In St John 1:21 John said he was not Elijah. In Matthew 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. The Jews expected him but the last days i..."

Mickey, you said: “I believe I am Elijah for this dispensation.” If I understood you properly, you claim to be the Elijah of the last day. That makes you a “prophet”! Is that really what you are claiming? Many countless souls have throughout history even up to the present day, made similar claims and for their troubles, were offered a place in the “lake of fire burning with brimstone” (Revelation 19:20).

I thought if Elijah should return in this day ahead of Christ, he would set a new tone for our understanding of religious worship and for our relationship to the Almighty. Wouldn’t he set in motion a grand scheme to prepare mankind for the greatness of the Day that is about to dawn, and for receiving the Lord of the universe? Would he be focusing on the parables of 2,000 years ago, or rather on the big issues of present-day existence? Would he be bashing Paul of 2,000 years ago, or telling the world of great things to come? Would he set himself up on Goodreads to argue about minor points of doctrine with puny men like us, or he would rather get to the towns and villages of the world to summon mankind to the sure gate that leads to the Kingdom?

Don’t get me wrong. I am not by this suggesting that your claims are false. What I am doing is playing the devil’s advocate, so you can justify your claim to the respect and recognition that any true prophet of God deserves from the peoples of the world.



message 11: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Kobina wrote: "Mickey wrote: "In St John 1:21 John said he was not Elijah. In Matthew 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. The Jews expected him but ..." Did anyone listen to Noah, so to speak. For about three years I only tried to get preachers to listen to me. When one has a divinity degree according to them, that is all you need. With a different message then the preacher, how many would let me talk to their congregation? 80% wouldn't change there religion of there parents.

You want me to tell of great things to come have you ever read Revelation or St Matthew the 24th chapter.

I wrote one book but the Holy Ghost kept assuring me that I was Elijah so I wrote "Elijah The Last Prophet," which was similar but it is out of print. Both books only dealt with salvation what else is important in this world? In every way that I know of I have been at it for about 20 years. This year alone I have invested thirty thousand dollars of borrowed money with a total of $65,000 I am so sure that the end is near, for complete strangers. It says few will find the way.


message 12: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmauk007) True prophets make known their faith in Jesus, but more is required than claiming to preach in his name

1 John 4:1-3: “Test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world. You gain the knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God.”

Matt. 7:21-23: “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name . . . ?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.”

True prophets speak in the name of God, but merely claiming to represent him is not enough

Deut. 18:18-20: “A prophet I shall raise up for them from the midst of their brothers, like you [like Moses:]; and I shall indeed put my words in his mouth, and he will certainly speak to them all that I shall command him. And it must occur that the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name, I shall myself require an account from him. However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.” (Compare Jeremiah 14:14; 28:11, 15.)
Jesus said: “I do nothing of my own initiative; but just as the Father taught me I speak these things.” (John 8:28) He said: “I have come in the name of my Father.” (John 5:43) Jesus also said: “He that speaks of his own originality is seeking his own glory.”—John 7:18.

If any individuals or organizations claim to represent God but decline to use God’s personal name, and make it a practice to express their own opinions on matters, are they measuring up to this important qualification of a true prophet?

Ability to perform “great signs,” or “miracles,” is not necessarily proof of a true prophet
Matt. 24:24: “False Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs [“miracles,” TEV:] and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.”
2 Thess. 2:9, 10: “The lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved.

What true prophets foretell comes to pass, but they may not understand just when or how it will be

Dan. 12:9: “Go, Daniel, because the words are made secret and sealed up until the time of the end.”
1 Pet. 1:10, 11: “The prophets . . . kept on investigating what particular season or what sort of season the spirit in them was indicating concerning Christ when it was bearing witness beforehand about the sufferings for Christ and about the glories to follow these.”
1 Cor. 13:9, 10: “We have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially; but when that which is complete arrives, that which is partial will be done away with.”
Prov. 4:18: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.”
The apostles and other early Christian disciples had certain wrong expectations, but the Bible does not classify them with the “false prophets.”—See Luke 19:11; John 21:22, 23; Acts 1:6, 7.

The pronouncements of a true prophet promote true worship and are in harmony with God’s revealed will

Deut. 13:1-4: “In case a prophet or a dreamer of a dream arises in your midst and does give you a sign or a portent, and the sign or the portent does come true of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us walk after other gods, whom you have not known, and let us serve them,’ you must not listen to the words of that prophet or to the dreamer of that dream, because Lord your God is testing you to know whether you are loving Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul. After Lord your God you should walk, and him you should fear, and his commandments you should keep, and to his voice you should listen, and him you should serve, and to him you should cling.”
Since the Bible says that “a friend of the world” is an enemy of God, are clergymen who urge their parishioners to get involved in the affairs of the world promoting true worship? (Jas. 4:4; 1 John 2:15-17) The true God said that the nations “will have to know that I am Lord,” and the Bible states that God would take out of the nations “a people for his name,” but are religious organizations that minimize the importance of using God’s personal name acting in harmony with this revealed will of God? (Ezek. 38:23; Acts 15:14) Jesus taught his followers to pray for God’s Kingdom, and the Bible cautions against putting one’s trust in earthling men, so are clergymen or political organizations that urge people to place their confidence in human rulership true prophets?—Matt. 6:9, 10; Ps. 146:3-6; compare Revelation 16:13, 14.

True prophets and the false can be recognized by the fruitage manifest in their lives and the lives of those who follow them

Matt. 7:15-20: “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. . . . Every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit . . . Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.”
What characterizes their way of life? “The works of the flesh are . . . fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. . . . Those who practice such things will not inherit God’s kingdom. On the other hand, the fruitage of [God’s:] spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control.”—Gal. 5:19-23; see also 2 Peter 2:1-3.



message 13: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Emma wrote: "True prophets make known their faith in Jesus, but more is required than claiming to preach in his name

1 John 4:1-3: “Test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because..."


Paul said he was of God but if you compare what he said with the Gospels there are no comparison.

My message is different as Jesus message was different, if you can't tell the difference that is your fault. I try and verify every statment I make with book chapter and verse. I am a servent of God and my basic job is to explain the parables that Jesus spoke. Would it be fair for Jesus to come back without the parables being explained? I don't think so.
I don't have the time right know to look at the rest of your book.




message 14: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmauk007) The parables are all explained Mickey. Which ones are you struggling with?


message 15: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments It's not me that is struggling. What does it mean to be born again? does it mean at the appropriate moment when you raise your hand, you will live in Gods kingdom with him for ever. Catechism is that the answer. Baptism in water, or the middle eastern faiths. The sinners prayer or just to believe in Jesus superficially, if this is so, not a few but many is saved. If this is so then Jesus was lieing to us.

Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of god. If you can't understand that one you won't be in the kingdom of God. Chapter 6:31-58 of St John are verses that very few people living on the earth understand. The Catholics belive it is the sacraments that you don't need in the first place.


message 16: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmauk007) It is not my intention to live in heaven Mickey,you are absolutely corect that I wont be in the Kingdom of God, I dont want to be :-) and I have explained extensively using scripture what it means to be born again, that it is not a decision that we come to on our own, that there are a limited number that are chosen.What their position and responsibilites are to be?

Please answer Mickey..if those who are born again are to be Kingsa nd priests in heavn and rule with Christ for the 1000yrs then to whom are they ruling over? Surely there must be people here on the earth that are Kings and priests to? Who are these people? evelation speaks of a great crowd who COME OUT OF THE TRIBULATION, to come out of denotes that they have been through Armageddon, which is here on the earth, therefore who are these people? Are there 2 groups or one?


message 17: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Emma wrote: "It is not my intention to live in heaven Mickey,you are absolutely corect that I wont be in the Kingdom of God, I dont want to be :-) and I have explained extensively using scripture what it means ..." (themselves) God in his righteousness, made a way for mankind in Liveticus and those that have been born again in this dispensation, by following the commandments of the Gospel. When they do COME OUT OF THE TRIBULATION, they will all have to be the same. In the tribulation period they will have to be born again and receive the Holy Ghost. It doesn't say any place that the Bible is void at the time of tribulation. I would say one group.




message 18: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmauk007) Who are the 144,000?
Who are the Great Crowd?
Who are the little flock that Jesus mentioned?
If they are to rule OVER the earth who do these rule over?
Who are they Kings and Priests to?

ROMANS 8:14,16,17 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

(At the time this was written it was true that all who were led by Gods spirit were Gods sons whose hope was that they would be glorified with Christ Jesus. But this had not always been true. LUKE 1:15 Says"For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. So John the baptizer would be filled with Holy Spirit, but Matthew 11:11 says "Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. This makes it clear that John the baptist will not share in the glory of the heavenly Kingdom. So too, after the gathering of the heirs of the heavenly Kingdom, there would be others who would serve God as followers of his son and et not share in heavenly glory.

David who the Bible refers to as a man agreeable to Gods heart did not ascend to the heavens :For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand.

PSALMS 37:9,11,29 'For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.

You also mentioned Leviticus.

The Laws that were given to Moses (The Mosaic Law)are no longer applicable to Christians today as we are under the Law of The Christ and not nder teh Mosaic law, we are Christians and not Jews.

ROMANS 10:4" For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

God used Christ to bring tht law to its end.

COLOSSIANS 2;13-16 "And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.

Doing away with the Mosaic law including the 10 Commandments does not mean the taking away of all moral restraint, as many of the laws were restated in the books of the New Testament, there was however no restating of the sabbath law. However regarding the new covenant which has replaced the law Covenant Hebrews 8:10 states" For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people.

ROMANS 6:15-17 "What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.




message 19: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Emma wrote: "Who are the 144,000?
Who are the Great Crowd?
Who are the little flock that Jesus mentioned?
If they are to rule OVER the earth who do these rule over?
Who are they Kings and Priests to?

ROMANS 8:..."
I have said before that I don't read what Paul said because he was not saved on the road to Dimascus. If not, then he was going on his own and God has nothing to do with what came out of his mouth. St John 5:43 Isaiah 13: 13-14




message 20: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmauk007) I am wondering Mickey for what reason you say that Paul was not a follower of Christ.The scriptures clearly tell us that he was, that he was saved from being a murderer of Christians to being a preacher to all the nations, Paul was instrumental in the early christian congregation. If you dont believe that he was and that he was not led by Gods spirit, then you would disregard 14 books of the Holy scriptures which Paul wrote under inspiration. The Bible says that all scripture is inspired, do you think that God almighty would have allowed a ordinary man to write 14 books contained in his word? A book that stood the test of time? It is unthinkable on Gods part that he would have allowed an advocate of Satan to write so many books.

What does Pauls lifecourse show us?

Why did the one time persecutor Saul embrace the faith of his victims? To Timothy Paul wrote: I was shown mercy so that by means of me as the foremost case Chrsit Jesus might demonstrate all his long suffering for a sample of those who are going to rest their faith on him for everlasting life 1 TIM 1:16.

God forgave Paul and receiving such undeserved kindness and mercy moved him to show love to others by preaching the good news to them.

Isaiah 13;13-14 This is speaking of the day of God, which is Armageddon.

John 5:43 What does this scripture have to do with Paul? Jesus is here speaking of people mainly the is own people the jews who were not accepting him as Messiah. The majority did not. This is not talking about Paul.

There are many faithful men in he scriptures, why do you single Paul out, why not John, Mark, Luke. Luke was not a disciple of Jesus, why not disregard him also? If we really have no faith in the Bible then how can we benefit from what it teaches, if we dont rely on Gods word to guide us, then we really will be going our own way. We are becoming independent of God, we are not letting God guide us. Who will guide us then?


message 21: by Kobina (new)

Kobina Amissah-Fynn (kafy) | 0 comments Mod
Mark wrote: "A fascinating read from all above. It’s unfortunate that more people are not here to benefit from such an intelligent, meaningful, and theological perspective.

Most of my time has been elsewher..."


Hi Mark,

I couldn't agree with your sentiments more. Rigidity and orthodoxy in religious matters lead us nowhere. Meekness, a willingness to look at all things with a searching eye, open-mindedness, and an awareness of the relativity of truth--these are the things that will stand us in good stead when we seek for meaning in the promises of the end-times.


message 22: by Kobina (new)

Kobina Amissah-Fynn (kafy) | 0 comments Mod
Mark wrote: "Kobina, thank you so much for taking the time to read my comment and then taking the time to write your most insightful response. Time invested becomes time well spent when people like you are invo..."

Mark, it's added to the to-read list.


message 23: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Mark wrote: "A fascinating read from all above. It’s unfortunate that more people are not here to benefit from such an intelligent, meaningful, and theological perspective.

Most of my time has been elsewher..."
Mark salvation is physical so that puts your rant as unintelligent, unmeaningful, and in theory useless, but it does impress the natives, but what good does that do? My book is like none other, but it is the truth and who wants to read about the truth?

The only place that you used the Words of Jesus was about the children. I went to the alter in tears as a child would, after setting on the back seat of several protestant churches over two months. It wasn't until after I left the church that I was saved at a gasoline service station. You wrote Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall (not enter into the kingdom of heaven) One of the meanings of convert is to transform. Transform means to change the condition, character, or fuction. Before the night of 12/1/1968 at 9PM I had been a drunk from the tenth grade of High School and smoked heavily, my life never even existed until the sun went down. Most of the time I was sleeping all day and drinking all night. The condition, character, and function of my body was changed. After that I tried to go to church and found out why I was saved at a gasoline service station, the churches never knew what the meaning of the parables are because they never became a child of God.


message 24: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Mark-Jesus message was about a way to live in the kingdom of God only. You say truth, but the message is in parables and or allogory parables, the only people that understands it is those that become saved. Jesus said there is no peace, if you have peace your not one of the chosen. A preacher asked me one time, "how do you feel?" I said at peace with myself, but that was after I became saved. You say he brought love, what about Genesis 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. Hope, There is hope, we have nothing else to go by. Joy- There is no joy when you understand the Gospels even Jesus wept. St John 16:20 Verily, verily I say unto you, that ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy. (at the end time when we are removed from the earth)

Paul he said all these things and he was never saved. St John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: (Jesus) if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. (Paul)

Salvation is physical Ezekiel 36: 26-25-27

You said God bless and good (light) the power of God is light, but it isn't a light like Paul said it is, it is a light filled with the power of God that removed my heart where sin is, and replaced it with one from God. There is no church nor foundation except the few that will be saved. How many was saved in Noah's time? 8 They couldn't find 10 that was righteous when God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.


message 25: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Mark wrote: "Mickey – sorry it has taken me so long to respond to you. I have many responsibilities and little time to manage them all.

Jesus Christ is pure love and truth. There can be only one truth and wi..."
You said those that have presence of mind where only good prevailes. What about the heart? Recently they proved that you can be scared to death. Does this mean your mind stops working or is it the heart. St Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Sin is in the heart how can "Littluns" get rid of the sin in the heart that your born with sense Adam sinned. Don't you think His creations (Man) has perverted themselves today? I don't go to any church nor am I a part of any religious organization, that should tell you something.

Love that is where the tithes and offerings come in, as long as you stay away from the truth, one can make a good living on this earth but that is going to be as far as it gets. When you preach the truth no one will give you a dime, why should they, their Father is Satan. Before I decide on the mark I will be removed from this earth. St Matthew 24:22 ---but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. If i'm not removed God will feed me as He did, the Jews, the manna from heaven.


message 26: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments Mickey wrote: "Emma wrote: "Who are the 144,000?
Who are the Great Crowd?
Who are the little flock that Jesus mentioned?
If they are to rule OVER the earth who do these rule over?
Who are they Kings and Pries..."
The 144,000 are from the 12 tribes of the children of Israel. The great Crowd, I can't find it in the KJV of the Bible of 1611. little flock correlates to Few will find the way. For one thousand years God said He would rule the earth.Revelation 20:4 ---and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years 6 ---but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


message 27: by Mickey (new)

Mickey Mullen (mrmullenvcncom) | 38 comments The problem you have is, I was saved physically that means my heart was removed because sin is in the heart. It never happened in a church but at a gasoline service station after I was in a church. At that time my body felt sunken as my shoulders caved in toward the middle of my body, and my body became thin. It was at this time I could feel my body expand and shoulders go up to there original position. The power of God came thru my back that did the work. My heart is 31 years younger than my body. The doctor said recently that I was younger than my age.

You need my book, the only reason I wrote it, had to do with how I was saved. Your Littluns is a faults doctrine. Jesus and the Gospel of John has the only way to the kingdom of God. In my heart I believed in healing that Jesus did, that triggered the receiving the new heart. St Johm 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.


message 28: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmauk007) Mickey wrote: "Mickey wrote: "Emma wrote: "Who are the 144,000?
Who are the Great Crowd?
Who are the little flock that Jesus mentioned?
If they are to rule OVER the earth who do these rule over?
Who are they ..."



The 144,000 who rule with Christ are not jews. Notice Revelation says that the yare bought from among mankind, from all nations tongues and tribes.

And I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel: Out of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand sealed; out of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand; out of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand sealed.”—Revelation 7:4-8.

Some argue because of this particular scripture that these are from literally Israel. Revelation 7:4-8 diverges from the usual tribal listing. (Numbers 1:17, 47) Obviously, the listing here is not for the purpose of identifying fleshly Jews by their tribes but to show a similar organizational structure for spiritual Israel. This is balanced. There are to be exactly 144,000 members of this new nation—12,000 from each of 12 tribes. No tribe in this Israel of God is exclusively royal or priestly. The whole nation is to rule as kings, and the whole nation is to serve as priests.—Galatians 6:16; Revelation 20:4, 6.

The Christian congregation is “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation.” (1 Peter 2:9) Replacing natural Israel as God’s nation, it becomes a new Israel that is “really ‘Israel.’” (Romans 9:6-8; Matthew 21:43) For this reason, it was quite proper for Jesus’ half brother James to address his pastoral letter “to the twelve tribes that are scattered about,” that is, to the worldwide congregation of anointed Christians that in time would number 144,000.—James 1:1.


As in the case of the Ephesians, who previously had been “alienated from the state of Israel,” now non-Jews could be sealed with God’s spirit and become part of the congregation of anointed Christians. (Ephesians 2:11-13; 3:5, 6; Acts 15:14) It is appropriate, then, for the 24 elders to sing before the Lamb: “With your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”—Revelation 5:9, 10.


Gal. 3:27-29: “All of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in union with Christ Jesus. Moreover, if you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.” (So, from God’s standpoint, it is no longer natural descent from Abraham that determines who are Abraham’s seed.


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