Debate discussion

I just wanted to get the word out about my pro-life prayer minute. On Friday, the anniversary of Roe vs. Wade, I would like as many people as will to pray at one time. We will pray at 5 o'clock EST. Please join us. The prayer topic is anything pro-life (wisdom for leaders, protecting unborn babies, etc.). Thank you.

Calling it a baby doesn't make a zygote magically have the ability to exist on it's own or be considered alive, anymore than my fingernails are alive.

Well shit, Nate, it says "honor" right in the name! What could be more honorable than honor killings?

Girl4beluga wrote: "it takes guts to post that with people who don't give a shit about anything but their own beliefs and give no respect to other people's views around."

Doesn't it then take guts for Lauren and everyone else to post as well? And how do you know Marcy isn't one of those people who "don't give a shit about anything but their own beliefs and give no respect to other people's views?" Based on this post, that's exactly what she is.

So since it takes guts for everyone to post anything in this, why talk about Marcy like she did something special?

They're talking about her beliefs and how they think she's wrong. What else would you like them to say? They aren't blatantly disrespecting her. Not that every idea deserves respect anyway.

Okay, she's informing people of the event based on a belief they think is wrong. So they're taking a risk and telling her what they think. What's wrong with that?

"Of coarse it takes a lot of guts to be an atheist and even more to be one that speaks up. But no respect has been shown to Marcy or for her beliefs not to mention you can't mention God here without being called a complete idiot. Her post was simply to inform people of this event and nothing else."

Than post it in a pro-life group. As you all might recall, this group is called Debate.

Girl4beluga, thank you for your comments. They mean a lot to me. It means a lot to me when someone agrees with me, but when someone who doesn't know me and doesn't agree with me sticks up for me when several people are disagreeing with me, it means a lot, too. It is very rare. I thank you for doing it and respect you for having an open mind.

I didn't mean to turn this into a heated discussion (although I knew ultimately it would). I just wanted to tell everyone about my event and get the word out.

I didn't post it on any pro-life groups because I couldn't find any. If anyone knows of any, please post and tell me what they are or send me a private message. Thank you.

I looked around and concluded that there are no pro-life groups, so I started one and am about to post my information there, too.

Xox, I am sorry you hate me. I do not hate you, I disagree with you. I am anti-choice, pro-life.
If your intention is to call other people's beliefs names, then debate is not the right group for you either.
Namecalling is not and has never been debate.
And saying that it is wrong to kill unborn babies- or fetuses, or whatever you want to call them- voicing this opinion is not a lie. It is a statement made by a person about their beliefs, so it would only be a lie if they proclaimed to believe something that they do not, in fact, beleive.
Marcy, you are a strong, courageous person for posting on this group. As an atheist, one would have far less to fear on this group- they have Lauren to back them up, and she's an excellent writer and debater, and as an atheist, they are also in the majority.

Daw. :)

I am anti-choice, pro-life.
If your intention is to call other people's beliefs names, then debate is not the right group for you either.

The term "anti-choice" is not "name-calling;" it's an accurate descriptor of your position: you're against (anti) women having the right to choose (choice) whether or not to have an abortion. The term "pro-life" is propaganda designed to imply that people who are "pro-choice" are somehow "anti-life." I don't know what it means to be against "life," but it sure sounds nasty!

In name calling, I was not referencing anti-choice. I was referencing Xox's calling anti-choice people "pest" and their words "disgusting bullshit" and "disgusting stuff" and "lies." We do not call names because we behave like adults in this group. Or we should.

I'm not trying to enforce it, I'm trying to promote it. I have no control over people's behavior, but I do have ideas on how we should get along.

In-forcing?

Is this a new word, that no one's ever heard of before?

What sort of computer who was made by people for English would do that/

I'm using all of those things and my Firefox spellchecker does not flag "enforce."

Dan wrote: "I'm using all of those things and my Firefox spellchecker does not flag "enforce.""

Same.

I want to point out that pro-life is misleading, because most "pro-life" people are all about things like the death penalty and war.

I understand that this makes all the pro-choice people feel good, but I don't think it realistically accomplishes ANYTHING.