2009-2010 discussion

Analysis: On p.17, what did the stranger mean when he said, "You are not Goliath", to Ishmael? Why would he say his being not who he is made out to be is not what he is, not just his title of name?

Grammar: Does the author use a variety of sentence structures within one chapter? Why or why not do you think that is?

Application: On pgs.17-18, do you think would have been as calm and collected as Ishmael was when he was moved to an unknown location in the middle of the night?

Analysis:

Why does Ishmael believe that there is no difference between humans and animals?

Application:

How would the story be different if you were Ishmael?

Evaluation:

Do you believe there is a difference between humans and animals? if so, what are the differences and why?

Evaluation: If Ishmael was an person how would you grade him and why?

Application: If Ishmael was your teacher would you considered him to be a good teacher?

Grammar: Do you think that the author uses or have great details?(Why Explain)

Analysis: What did Ishmael mean when he said " and finally, jellyfish appeared"?

Synthesis: How would handle the whole situation if you were in the students place?

Evaluation: Do you think the student was right when he/she (we don't know which gender, yet)said " the world was created for man"?

Analysis- Why did Ishmael tell his life story at their first meeting?

Synthesis- How would you have reacted when you found a Guerilla was your teacher?

Evaluation- Do you agree with Ishmael when he said humans did not worry about the earth being destroyed because there have always been explanations or reasons why they shouldn't worry? Why do you agree?

Analysis: what did he mean when he said "There are times when having too much to say can as dumb founding as having too little."?
Application: could this have happened in real life?
Evaluation: Do you think that saving the world or trying to save is is a good thing or a bad thing?

Semira A

ANALYSIS QUESTION- When Walter Sokolow called the gorilla Ishmael how did he know it wasn't Goliath?

APPLICATION QUESTION- Do you think a gorilla has the same emotional feeling as human being?

EVALUATION QUESTION- Do you think a teacher that's a gorilla is a good thing or a bad thing?

Application: Ishmael explains his thoughts of his captivity. Can you relate this to the world as being in captivity within itself?

Grammer: Why do you think the author separates the chapters into smaller sections?

Evaluate: How would you evaluate the pupil even though you do not no for certain if the person is male or female?

umme F.

analysis: in page 4, the author says, "i'd had the silly notion that the thing i most wanted to do in the world was...to find a teacher." whether we find a teacher or not how would it affect us? why is it important to find a teacher? explain your answers with details.


grammar: the author used ellipsis, colon, and dash a lot in his book "ishmael". like on page 10, he used ellipsis and dash by saying, "but you---" i sputtered." you are..." he also used semicolon, dash and colon in page 7, "the second was olfactory; the place reeked of the circus---no, not the circus, the menagerie: unmistakable but not unpleasant." how did the author use ellipsis, dash, semicolon, and colon in these sentences? how different the sentences sounds like with this dramatic fragments and without this dramatic fragments?


application: suppose instead of the author if you meet the gorilla, what are the things you would change? support your answer to apply the method by using some experience of your own life.

Hayelom G

Evaluaion: Do you think Ishmael would be as wise as he is in the story if he hadn't spent the beginning of his life locked up in a zoo and a menagerie?

Grammar: Why do you think the author puts three periods so often after sentences and quotations?

Application: If you were in the man's position and you had Ishmael (The gorilla) speak to you telepathically, would you do as the man did and except Ishmael as your teacher?

Delicia B.
Analysis Question- Do you think this statement "You are not Galiath" confused the gorrilla? Why or Why not
Application Question- Do you think everyone needs a teacher in their life?
Synthesis Question- If you could plan the gorrilla's past in a different way, what would you change about it or keep it the same?

Analysis Question- At the end of chapter one the main character says " finally it's happening in reality not in a dream!" Why could this be said to be a turning point in the book?
Application Question- If it were you in the book would your initial reaction when first meeting Ismael differ from that of the main character?
Evaluation Question- Do you agree or diasagree that having Ismael's perspective in the narrative makes it alotbmore intersting? Why?

Regina
Synthesis- How would you have reacted when you found a Guerilla was your teacher?

I would be like whoa at first, but if the Gorilla had something to say and teach i would listen. It would be odd at first, but after awhile it would be like talking to anyone else. If an animal had something to say i would listen because I would want to know what it had to say. Like my dog talks to me in his own way. For instance when he wants to go out he will get in your face and start crying and barking at you. No matter who the individual is if they have somtething to say then i'll be there to hear it and learn from it.How about you?





How would the story be different if you were Ishmael?

Semira wrote: "Semira A

ANALYSIS QUESTION- When Walter Sokolow called the gorilla Ishmael how did he know it wasn't Goliath?

javetta reply's: The reason he knew he wasn't goliath because one night he went to his cage and seen A nice gorilla, but on the sign it say goliath ,but the gorilla didnt look like a goliath that everyone think he is. He looked like a wise monkey so he called him Ishmael.

Delicia wrote: "Delicia B.

Application Question- Do you think everyone needs a teacher in their life?

javetta reply's: I think that everyone need a teacher in there life because we learn from others mistakes. Teachers today help us understand the way of life because they teach us what to do and what not to do. we are going to make mistake we need guidance to help us survive in this world.








Evaluation: Do you think th..."

Keon wrote: "Analysis: On p.17, what did the stranger mean when he said, "You are not Goliath", to Ishmael? Why would he say his being not who he is made out to be is not what he is, not just his title of name?...

Keon,
I think when the stranger tells Ishmael he's not Goliath, what he means is Ismael is not the vicious Guerilla posted on the cage. The gorilla that is supposed to be in the cage is a gorilla who attacked humans. When the stranger sees Ishmael and looks him in the eye, he can tell he is not that Gorilla. The look Ishmael gives the stranger is more than enough. He makes the point that the name Ishmael has been given is a mistake. It's a mistake because the name is not the title he deserves. I agree with the stranger, to me Ishmael seems like a lost person trying to fit into his role in the world. What do you think?

Rafael wrote: "Analysis Question- At the end of chapter one the main character says " finally it's happening in reality not in a dream!" Why could this be said to be a turning point in the book?

Rafael,
I believe that turning point is when he woke up and realized it wasn't a dream. Since the beginning the main character had always thought it was too easy to be true. When he met Ishmael for the first time I thought it was weird the way he was acting. I mean really, he was talking to a gorilla! After he woke up I believe the events of the day before had just sunken in. I mean it's like being blind and for the first time after so many years you can see. What do you think Rafael?

Keon wrote: "Regina
Synthesis- How would you have reacted when you found a Guerilla was your teacher?

I would be like whoa at first, but if the Gorilla had something to say and teach i would listen. It woul..."

Keon,
My reaction would have been the same. First, I would have to make sure it wasn't a prank and then I would listen to what he had to say. Animals or whatever they refer themselves as, hold a lot of history and wisdom. They may even be smarter and could just be ignoring us because they don't like us. I get what your saying when you say you understand what your dog is saying. Heck, my dog does the same thing. Just ask the beast!

Shavonne wrote:Evaluation:Do you believe there is a difference between humans and animals? if so, what are the differences and why?"

I think thats there's not really that much of a difference between humans and animals. Sure,they don't look alike, but thats all there really is. both humans and animals have hearts, and organs.Their both living things. They both have minds and bodies, and they both hunt for their food, and sleep. Both either have homes,or are homeless.They don't do all these things in the same manner, but that doesn't change the fact that the things they do are still the same thing.Their just initiated differently.

Delicia wrote: "Application Question- Do you think everyone needs a teacher in their life?"

i think everyone needs a teacher in their lives. You can learn individual things that you discover and find without a teacher. when you do have a teacher,though, you have someone to say whether your discoveries are correct or not. If you have a teacher, you are able to learn so much more than you can find out things for yourself. With a teacher, you can learn morals, and discover possibilities. A teacher doesn't have to be a stranger, it can be your parents, or siblings, or relatives and friends. You can find out so much more about things in life, that you might have never thought about. So yes, i think everyone needs a teacher, or at least someone who understands things, and has knowledge of the world.

Delicia wrote:Application Question- Do you think everyone needs a teacher in their life?
In my opinion i think that people does need a teacher in their life's because they need to be guide. If you don't have somebody to guide you then it comes at a point that you don't know what to do. Then you wouldn't know when you did the wright thing. Also if you need to work and get better at you mistakes. There lots of things that you can learn from your teacher and if you don't have one than where would you look for help. They would help you by teaching you right to wrong desicion.

Delicia wrote: "Delicia B.

Application Question- Do you think everyone needs a teacher in their life?


I think everyone needs a teacher in their lives. As being a human being nobody is perfect,for that we all need someone to look up to.They make you feel like you have accomplish something in your life.They help you in so many ways by telling you what's right and what's wrong.Without teachers the world will go crazy,it will be very hard for us to survive.A teacher doesn't need to be a teacher from school, it could be any body or someone who went to the same foot step as u do.

Shavonne wrote: "Analysis:Why does Ishmael believe that there is no difference between humans and animals? He said that because they both have story and they both sufer. People think that sice they are animals they don't have feelings but they sufer the same as the humans do. Ishmael believes that there is no different because he is telling what he feels and that he has story as humands do. The point about his thoguht i think were that humand or not they know what is going on around. Also that they can make a difference in the world if we all work together. And not to gudge because they are animals or humands.

Regina wrote:Synthesis- How would you have reacted when you found a Guerilla was your teacher?

Shanel replys: I would have thought it was joke or a scam for my money. I also would have left the building and asked for a manager to complain. After a while when I got home I would probably laugh it all off. I don't think I would ever look in the newspaper for a teacher.

Shavonne wrote:

Evaluation:Do you believe there is a difference between humans and animals? if so, what are the differences and why?"


I think that there is really not a difference between human and animal.They both are something important.When you look both of them you see a difference of how they look.When you really compare them, they both have a lot of similarities,an example of one is that they both need shelter,and food to survive.The way they survive is different but that doesn't make them so much of a different.

Javetta wrote: "Semira wrote: "Semira A

ANALYSIS QUESTION- When Walter Sokolow called the gorilla Ishmael how did he know it wasn't Goliath?

javetta reply's: The reason he knew he wasn't goliath because on..."

semira reply's -Walter Sokolow realize that Ishmael wasn't Goliath by looking at him really closely. He realize that Ishmael was really special of how he know how to understand and talk english.

Hayelom wrote: "Hayelom G

Evaluaion: Do you think Ishmael would be as wise as he is in the story if he hadn't spent the beginning of his life locked up in a zoo and a menagerie?

Shanel replys: No I don't think Ishmael would be as wise. I think his time in the zoo allowed him to observe others. Also his trainers showed him new ways to do things in order to become more civilived. In the menagerie he studied side by side with his owner. He gathered research on several topics and issues. Without this experience Ishmael would not have been as wise as he was.

Semira wrote: "Semira A

APPLICATION QUESTION- Do you think a gorilla has the same emotional feeling as human..."

Delicia replies:Yes, I think a gorrilla has the same emotions and feelings as a human.Gorrillas might express their anger or sadness different but, at still they have feelings. just like humans if we got taken away from our home like they take Gorrillas get taken from the jungle we would be frightened and upset. So I belive the gorrilla feel the same feelings.

Zuleyma wrote: "Analysis: what did he mean when he said "There are times when having too much to say can as dumb founding as having too little."?

Delicia replied:This statement says alot with much meaning. Basically it's saying that when you are saying alot you could be talking about something pointless. But, in one sentence you can say so much with just the right words and meaning.

lol same here Regina

Semira wrote: "Semira A



APPLICATION QUESTION- Do you think a gorilla has the same emotional feeling as human..."


I think that a gorilla has similar emotions as humans. Maybe not the exact same, but something that we would recongize as happy, sad, and angry. Then on the other hand they could be the exact same as us and have many emotions just as us. Like other animals like dogs and cats. Animals with intelligence have emotions like us a would think.

Regina,
I strongly agree with what your saying. You can look into someone's eyes and can tell what kind of personality they possess. If you know what your looking for that is. Great explanation by the way

zuleyma wrote: ''zuleyma

evaluation: Do you think that saving the world or trying to save the world is a good thing or a bad thing?

umme replies: I think, try to save the world is a good thing. And to save the world we all need a teacher. But we can also learn so much things and experience it through our life. we also experience things in our life when we made mistakes. Based on what we already know and what we learn in our life can shape the world in a better place.

Shanel wrote: "Regina wrote:Synthesis- How would you have reacted when you found a Guerilla was your teacher?

Shanel replys: I would have thought it was joke or a scam for my money. I also would have left the ..."

Shanel,
I agree, like I said to Keon I would have thought it was a prank at first. After, checking it out I would have just sat there and listened to the story. You can gain a lot by just listening to one.

Delicia wrote: ''Delicia

application: do you think everyone needs a teacher in their life?

umme replies: we are human so we make mistakes. From our mistakes we learn unique things which can save the world. A teacher is a friend who can guide us in the process of gaining our knowledge. A teacher can teach us with more details and elements. so i think we all need a teacher in our life.

Semira wrote: "Semira A

APPLICATION QUESTION- Do you think a gorilla has the same emotional feeling as human..?

Yes, I think in this case Ishmael who is obviously more than just your ordinary gorilla can feel emotions that humans feel. I can tell by his words, the advise, and the life lessons he tries to share through his own emotions. He is extremely wise and in a way can connect with his student better than any human teacher can. If you are talking about real life, my answer would still be yes. Gorillas may be big smelly obnoxious animals but they along with all animals share the same emotion as humans, they just express it in a very different manner.

Regina wrote:


Evaluation- Do you agree with Ishmael when he said humans did not worry about the earth being destroyed because there have always been explanations or reasons why they shouldn't worry? Why do you agree?

Hayelom replied: No, I do not agree with that at all. Ishmael may be wise and all but I didn't see any sense in what this meant. If the Earth is being destroyed than we humans have everything to worry about. We may have played a big part in this, with global warming and all the waste we induce in the Earth, its partly our fault for it's destruction or future destruction. So far, there have been no sign for us humans to not worry about the destruction of our world, so until there is a clear one I'm going to have to disagree with Ishmael and say that we have literally everything in the world to worry about.

Shanel,

I agree with what your saying, but it doesn't add up to me, I mean its not like Ishmael's trainer and owner taught him everything he new about the going on in the world, his knowledge must have came from somewhere else. Good answer though.

Farisha wrote:

Evaluation: Do you think the student was right when he/she (we don't know which gender, yet)said " the world was created for man"?

i dont belive that the student was right in saying that and i dont believe it is true. if the world was created for man and man only, then there wouldnt be as many species of any type on earth. i believe that the student was is in a ont - track mind and stuck inside the captivity.

Rafael wrote:

"Application Question- If it were you in the book would your initial reaction when first meeting Ismael differ from that of the main character?"

My reaction would be partially similar, but only in the fact that the student was shocked. If I had found out that the teacher was a gorilla with that much knowledge and wisdom id be completely scared, because there is no telling what he could do. But that would be after I sprinted out of the room scared for my life; I may not believe in captivity but i dont want to be that close to any animal that may kill me at moments notice.

Semira wrote:

"Shavonne wrote:

Evaluation:Do you believe there is a difference between humans and animals? if so, what are the differences and why?"


I think that there is really not a difference between human and animal.They both are something important.When you look both of them you see a difference of how they look.When you really compare them, they both have a lot of similarities,an example of one is that they both need shelter,and food to survive.The way they survive is different but that doesn't make them so much of a different."

Semira,
I agree with you, there are similarities and there are differences, but the main thing that makes them similar to me is how they live in the world. Some humans think that animals are dumb and not needed because they dont understand us humans. I think they are very intelligent and that they are doing the world more good than we notice. Im not much of a "tree hugger" but Earth is going in a downward spiral because of what we do to it. we dont adapt to the Earth, we make it adapt to us, and because of that its harming every other thing on our (as in every species) planet. so in a way, I think animals are a bit more superior to the way to survive on Earth, and we take advantage of it.

Semira wrote: "Javetta wrote: "Semira wrote: "Semira A

ANALYSIS QUESTION- When Walter Sokolow called the gorilla Ishmael how did he know it wasn't Goliath?

javetta reply's: The reason he knew he wasn't goliat..."

yea that's why i like this book because it gives you insperation