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message 1: by Chloe (new)

Chloe (countessofblooms) | 149 comments What was the favor that Sawyer asked Kate to do that led to Jack being so upset with her?

Was it something big, like digging up his buried treasure or killing the guy that manipulated him and sent him to Australia in the first place? Or is it something like visiting his parents' graves?


message 2: by Lori (new)

Lori I thought it was to check up on his kid....


message 3: by Chloe (new)

Chloe (countessofblooms) | 149 comments Sawyer has a kid?


message 4: by Chloe (new)

Chloe (countessofblooms) | 149 comments Thank you, Lostpedia, for shedding light on this unremembered event. I'd be curious to see if Clementine is really Sawyer's or if Cassidy was just manipulating him like he done to her.


message 5: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
Yeah, i had thought that maybe she was visiting his daughter. I mean, She was all dressed up and being sneaky, so maybe she was scamming someone for him???


message 6: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
By the way.. between his creepy Hurley visit and Kate messing around doin whatever it was she was doin, its no wonder Jack got all depressed and messed up!! Shame on her for not being up front and honest from the get-go!


message 7: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments I figured out the timeline between the season finale peak with Jack as an addict. It was before. So I'm wondering who was the guy Kate was talking about when she said "He's waiting for me" was that Sawyer? Hold on huh? Sawyer has a baby???


message 8: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (last edited May 08, 2008 02:47PM) (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
I think Kate meant Aaron when she said that at the airport... He would have been old enough then to wonder where his 'mommy'was.... We know that Sawyer didnt make it off the island as the O6... and I dont think he gets off after that whole media thing either... since we see her and Jack fighting about the favor she did for him....

Sawyer had a baby with the woman he used in the scam... The woman that helped Kate get into the hosptial to see her mom.... Unless, like Logan said, she was scamming Sawyer back and lied about it being his kid...


message 9: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments OOOOOHHH Ok. Being Aaron makes a lot of sense. Media thing? What? Sorry I'm so clueless here.


message 10: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
well, when the O6 first came back, it was the media who gave them that name (or that is what we are led to believe anyway)...


message 11: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments rrright rrright. Ok I get it now. Well, wouldn't it be huge if another person claimed to be from the island when there was only suppose to be 6 who lived and the rest died? Ben would have to hide them or something.


message 12: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
Well, they did do it once with Micheal.. He came back to the real world with Walt, and had a new identity... no one knew he was a survivor except his mother, it would appear. SO anything is possible. And we know that Ben is the KING of fake ID's....


message 13: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments lol Ben is the king of so many things. But, I don't think Sawyer would do what Ben said anyways, and probably screw everything up. Unless, Claire or Kate told him not to but Kate is gone and Claire is dead so no hope there. Lost is so hopeless at pretending that Walt is still ten years old. I practically laughed when Mr. Friendly said he was ten.


message 14: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
Im pretty sure Sawyer stays behind on the island tho. And Claire.. well, shes not dead yet, but it certainly looks like her time is running out, doesnt it?


message 15: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Yes, I've been screaming to the screen "WHY HASN'T SHE DIED YET!" And when is Jin going to die too? Their keepin people alive to long! Which is completely unlike Lost.


message 16: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
Ahhh.. I dont think Jin dies. I think he stays behind alive on the island, and the grave Sun and Hurley visited was just a marker... something for them to have as a reminder of him on the island.... the graves date was the date of the plane crash, so I dont think he is really dead. Just my opinion tho :D


message 17: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Omg really? I did not notice that!!!!! Thanks Lori!! Your memory rocks!!!


message 18: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (last edited May 08, 2008 03:23PM) (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
I have a little secret. Its called abc.com and myspace.com (i haunt their lost threads to check out what things they catch and come up with. Most is Bullshit and silly, but sometimes they catch cool things...) and lostpedia

So i cant take credit for everything I know.. haa haa.


message 19: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments lol. Good to know. I can't think of any favor Kate could do for Sawyer, and who was the woman on the telephone she was talking to?


message 20: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
who says it was a woman? coulda been a dude! She just lied to jack and said it was some mom from the park.


message 21: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments okay, true, true, didn't think of that. Who would it be?


message 22: by Lorena (new)

Lorena (lorenalilian) | 148 comments I thought she was talking with Sawyer


message 23: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments ya, that would make the most sense but how could she have?


Natalia Bortolotti | 9 comments If Sawyer is dead, or still back on the island, then she could have been talking on the phone with the mother of Sawyer's child. Maybe arranging a visit?


message 25: by Sherry (new)

Sherry Or making some sort of amends for his past behaviour which he would want kept secret from everyone after all he was not such a good guy pre-island?


message 26: by Lorena (new)

Lorena (lorenalilian) | 148 comments Hey I like the Sawyer's daughter theory, maybe he wanted Kate to do or find something out about his daugther ...


message 27: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
Perhaps tonite we find out what it was Sawyer wants Kate to do. We should be seeing the actual rescue/escape from the island. If he didnt ask her for a favor yet, he is bound to tonite!!


message 28: by Sherry (new)

Sherry I think you're right Lori.I have to wait until tomorrow to find out :(


message 29: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments OMG, didn't think of that! Thank you!


message 30: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy | 23 comments So I've been re-watching the first couple of epiosdes over the past few days, and I was paying a lot of attention to Kate's relationship with the Marshal. It kinda looks like maybe they had something going on. Just before he asks Kate to come in, the Marshal says to Jack, "So she got to you, too?" Plus Kate was pretty concerned about the Marshal and how much he suffered. Did they have something going on? Did he con her to get close enough to arrest her before she ran away to the farm in Australia? Their relationship seemed a lot more complex than your typical cop-arrestee relationship.


message 31: by Lorena (new)

Lorena (lorenalilian) | 148 comments And I just thought he was plain pissed off because he had been following her and not able to capture her for so long. Sometimes things just pass through me on this show.


message 32: by Sherry (new)

Sherry I always thought that sha had a relationship with the marshall's brother,though I don't remember why.


message 33: by Jeremy (new)

Jeremy | 23 comments Was his brother the guy that Kate really loved? The one who had the toy airplane she wanted?

I used to think that he was just ticked off because she had eluded him for so long, but when I watched it again (maybe I'm being too paranoid), there seemed to be something there.


message 34: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Whose Marshall?? (Yes, typical Emma).


message 35: by Lorena (new)

Lorena (lorenalilian) | 148 comments he he he ... not Marshal, the marshal (one l or two LL?) the "policeman" who was bringing Kate back to the States.


message 36: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments And who is his brother???


message 37: by Lorena (new)

Lorena (lorenalilian) | 148 comments I think it was Kate's prior husband Emma, they were really happy, or so it seemed but Kate had to leave him because of the fact that she was a fugitive. But honestly I don't remember they ever saying he was the marshal's brother ...


message 38: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Oh hold on.... it's coming back to me a little. To Lostpedia!


message 39: by Sherry (new)

Sherry Jeremy,that's what I thought but I don't know if it was ever mentioned.Perhaps it was inferred?I honestly don't remember why I thought it was the Marshal's brother.Got to get the series on dvd and start rewatching!


message 40: by Emma (last edited Jun 27, 2008 02:33PM) (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Nope, it's not his brother. Neither of them are. I remember Tom vaguely, but I vividly remember Kate drugging Kevin. Why did Marshall offer to stop hunter her? Some secret affection would make the most sense....


message 41: by Nanner (new)

Nanner | 45 comments I definately agree that sawyer asked kate to get in touch with clementine right before he jumped...and that was what she was trying to do...I think she lied because she knew jack could be very jealous...mho


message 42: by Lori, Offical Lost Lover and Super Mod (new)

Lori (tnbbc) | 880 comments Mod
just seems to be that had she been upfront first, he would have taken it better. sneaking and lying like that is just horrible. the guy already had his misgivings about hooking up with her off-island, and she pulls her typical Kate-selfish moves and ruins a good thing. Sometimes i just want to bitch slap her....


message 43: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Oh damn Jack! She thinks hes DEAD. Why can't he just accept that she still loves him? Of course she's going to do the favour!


message 44: by Sherry (new)

Sherry Contacting Clementine seems logical but what if it's something more and she genuinely can't say as she is honorable in her way?If someone I really cared for asked me to do something and I knew this person to be dead I would do my level best to do as I was asked even at personal cost,and the favor was promised before she hooked up with Jack.So as frustrating as it is Jack could try a little trust(though if I were Jack I would probably respond the same way)

Another device used by writers to keep the love interest seperated therefore building suspense.It's a lousy trick!Personally I'd like to slap the writers.


message 45: by Nanner (new)

Nanner | 45 comments LOLOL sometimes I'd like to slap the writers too


message 46: by Jayme (new)

Jayme | 25 comments I have heard the audio enhanced version of Sawyer says to Kate. If you don't want to know I would suggest not reading any more. I can't remember exactly but it is something along the lines of I have a daughter and tell her i'm sorry or I have a daughter and tell her i'm sawyer. It is still real hard to hear. I bet you could look on lostpedia and they would have it. I don't know for sure.


message 47: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Wow! Thank you! So it did involve his child! Ooooo, does his daughter have anything to do with the island or Ben?


message 48: by Emma (new)

Emma  Blue (litlover) | 332 comments Well, I guess her age would kind of be important. Or Clementine? (Did I get the name right)?


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