TWILIGHT HATERS discussion

Hey everyone!

If some of you don't know me, my (alias) name is Rain.

I'm 19 years old, turning 20.

This thread is dedicated for anyone experiencing problems or just wants someone to listen.

I'm right here. So if you guys have any problem and want some advise, I will try my best to make a solution or lend an ear/eye :P

Just a little rule for people who want to give their perspective on the problems written here.

Please please please no hater comments or whatnot. This is a thread that must be taken seriously. If someone is going through depression, please don't make fun of them or anything like that. I know most of you's are sane and won't do such a thing. But I just had to say that so we're all clear here.

I don't usually do this but if I find someone making inappropriate comments here I will have to erase them.

Lol you guys can make some jokes although they shouldn't hurt others' feelings ok?

Well, to make it short.

Respect one another, and let's all try to help one another. :)

REMEMBER!! SMILE!!! :D

Aww, man!!! I remember I had like, hip dysplasia when I was like, 4-7 years old, and one morning I woke up with a terrible pain in my leg and I had to go to the hospital.

If that makes you feel better...lol.

Rose wrote: "I'M TOTALLY SICK RAIN! I'm fairly sure I mentioned this in the RP thread but I'll say it again so that everyone will understand why I haven't been here in a while.
I got a cold a week ago and then ..."

*hugs* there there... I'm sorry to hear that Rose.

Sam: I'm sorry too-

Rose: Keep away...

Sam: listening... listening... *backs away*

Anyways, I understand how you're not on for a while. You really should get some rest, hon. :)

I hope you're ok now.

I was going to make a joke to cheer you up, but I don't what I can make with this situation. @.@

Olivia ^^The Awesome Mushroom^^ wrote: "Aww, man!!! I remember I had like, hip dysplasia when I was like, 4-7 years old, and one morning I woke up with a terrible pain in my leg and I had to go to the hospital.

If that makes you feel b..."
O.o

Well ... wow... :P And if it'd make you feel better, Rose... I had asthma when I was a little kid *below 8 yrs old* and if my father didn't rush me to the hospital quick, I would have died in the house or in the car. O.o true story. My auntie (a paediatrician) helped me a lot. Thank God we had a doctor in the family :P and one who lives under the same roof :P

I have this ear thing, and I get infections in it all the time. One time I had one so bad, that I cried. It was this big bag of puss hanging in my ear... yes gross. Currently I feel like going all Van Gogh and cutting it off....

It's okay.... I was loopy for a bit and named my computers Daniel and Lucas. My radio is Fred and my iPod Pumpkin.

Nice. Very nice.

Yes, yes I know.

Ok Rain I got something for ya.

One of my guy friends(we'll call him Ham), on Wednesday, asked my other guy friend to ask me if I'd go out with Ham. And I said no, because I don't do relationships and I don't really like him that way, and now I'm scared that I'll have to talk to Ham next Wednesday. O.O HELP!!

Oh Froggy... I'm sorry I didn't see this comment soon... :( Atleast it's monday, right? LOL anyways...

Well, you don't really like the guy more than a friend. You really can't do anything about that and neither can he.

Just act normal, don't avoid him. Although, if you feel that he needs some space then do so.

Guys have this tendency to move on quickly because they don't usually put all their emotions in a relationship or a crush. (Trust me, I should know...) Unless of course you guys have gone out for ages... (Although sometimes this is not the case)

Well... most of them do, but I don't think that at your age (I'm assuming he's close to your age?), Ham would feel deep affection to the point that he'd walk on water for you (No... walking on a puddle doesn't count. :P)

I'd say that you shouldn't worry too much.

Judging how he asked his friend to do the asking, he's shy or a coward. (I prefer it if guys ask you out personally in private. Asking a girl out in public is rude! It's because when a guy asks a girl out in public, or around the people who noticed this event of him asking you out, it will pressure you to say yes. Thus... no rejection)

I'd say he's a coward because he can't ask you out himself. I'd say shy, because maybe he's actually a shy guy. (I wouldn't know... because I don't know him personally)

In conclusion, don't worry about it and (remember this well) DO NOT GO OUT WITH A GUY BECAUSE YOU FEEL BAD FOR HIM.

There's nothing worse (in the case of both sexes) when the other person finds out you went out with him/her because you felt pity or bad for them. They'd want someone to go on a date with them because they feel some sort of chemistry or they like to get to know the person better.


Does that make sense?

Before I forget, how did you know that Ham asked his guy friend to ask you if you'd go out with him?

Thanks so much for the advice Rain. =) S'okay. =) Anytime is good! =)

I've never gone out with him. Actually, I just met him rather recently. But it doesn't take me long to make a friend. =D Yeah he is shy. The guy Ham asked to ask me is one of my other friends, who used to go out with my best galfriend. ^_^ Oh, the drama. XD I agree about the public, but it was after the service, so not as many people around, but still.......

I was so surprised when he asked me, though. It's usually my best friend (who went out with my other guy friend) who has all the guys drooling. ^_^ XD I swear, every guy within a hundred feet of her asks her out. XD

I appreciate your sensible advice. My head tends to be up in the clouds pretty much all the time. XD I'll try not to avoid him, if he comes Wednesday. XD

You are my life now,
EpicFroggy (J-O-Y)

P.S. that last bit is an inside joke. ("you are my life now") XD

Lol! Ok! I'm glad to help Joy... or Froggy... whichever name you want me to call you :P

But please do update me with what happens on wedensday, ok?

I'm glad to have put this thread up!

:D

There's no other feeling (aside from falling in love) that feels as good as helping other people.

Keep asking questions you guys! and girls... :P I love to help!

Okey doke I will! =) It does feel good to help other people, although I don't give really good advice lol =)

lol! Well I hope I do... I wanna help other people as much as I can. :)

(=

Hey guys, I'm gonna have to take a break for a while. At the moment, I'm going through severe depression. Long story... but I think Grace has a fair idea why.

Please do post your problems and I'd try to help, but at the moment, I think I need to keep my problems at bay first before I can help anyone else...

It's practically driving me mad... but, I think I need time away from goodreads for a while. It won't be long.

Take care you guys and girls. Do tell me your problems and I'll try to get back to you asap.

xoxo Rain

Grace, and other 18 year olds or past 18 years of age, can you guys keep this thread alive? Thanks!

I owe you's heaps! :D

xox

Wish me luck and prayers

Thanks Rose, *huggles* I'm actually a little better now. My depression isn't as bad anymore.

Yeah, internet or not, you're my friend too Rose :) You and Grace are practically my best friends here :D

And well... a certain guy is actually helping me get through it ;)

Aww, so sorry Rain. )= I hope you feel better! (=

Thanks Froggy :)

*huggles*

Btw, I watched Avatar... FINALLY! The best part is? I got to watch it for free, with free 3D glasses, and on a date! hahahaha!! We were so stoked!

He works in the cinema and we only need to pay $1 and an extra $2 for the glasses. I guess the guy who gave our tickets was kind enough to make our date even better! hahahah!

The movie was so worth it! Then again we didn't pay for anything. :P

YES I KNOW RIGHT AVATAR KICKS ASS HAHA TAKE THAT TWILIGHT BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*ahem* I have no idea what that has to do with Twilight, it just seemed fitting. O.o

I don't care who answers this, i just need ADVICE.....

There's this girl in my class, called...er, Mandy, and she doesn't have any friends. This is because shes just really annoying- argumentative, stubborn, whiney, immature....

Anyway, about 3 weeks ago, I went and sat with her one break time, and now she thinks I'm her best friend. She wont give me any space, and follows me around like an eager puppy. Last week, in Music, the teacher announced we had to do a group project. I started to move towards my best friend Sophie, but Mandy pulled me to the other side of the room and said, 'you're in my group'.

I don't know what to do. What's more important, her feelings or mine? I know what it feels like to have no friends, so i know how she feels now that she thinks i'm her friend. I also know how she'd feel if i told her to go away.

What do i do????

Well... first of all. Now I know why she doesnt have any friends. She's too clingy, or in a more polite perspective she's too dependent on other people. Maybe she's had a bad experience with someone back then?

I'd say both feelings are important... but I'd say yours would be a hair above hers in a situation like this. So I agree with Steph.

Try to be gentle with her. How about you introduce her to other people? I'm not saying you're going to give her (aka problem) to other people. I'm just saying how about you get her to make friends with other people so she won't have to be so clingy.

But like you said she can be stubborn, whiny, etc. aka Bella-syndrome... how about you tell her how you feel?

Start off with saying, that she seems like a friendly girl but you need to also hang out with other people and have your own space.

Tell her what you think is wrong in the situation. If you look carefully to what I said, I didn't say tell her what's wrong with her. That would just hurt her feelings.

Maybe something like this...

"Hey Mandy? Can I talk to you in private?"

Once you guys get to a private place, lower your voice, make it gentle so she doesn't have to feel that she should get defensive.

"Mandy, for the past few weeks you've been a good person to me."

Look how I said person instead of friend. If you consider her as one, then feel free to use the term. But I'd say not to in this conversation.

"You've always been there to give me company and you seem to make me feel like I'm not alone. But I also felt like you don't seem to give me enough space for myself. You follow me around too much..."

(don't say like a puppy... no one wants to be compared to an animal.)

"Is it possible that maybe you could give me some personal space? Let me hang out with my other friends?"

And if that doesn't work... play the honest card.

Sometimes, tough love is what waken people up. "Tell her what you think of her and why she makes you think of her like that. Like, tell her what she did to make you feel that way."

This last retort is in your own discretion. Use it or not. But if I were you, I would do it.

Like I said, sometimes people need to know the honest truth.

I'm not saying scream at her... but try to keep your voice down. Don't make her feel worthless... If you did use the last resort, try to give her advice on what she needs to keep in mind, etc.

I think a lot of you would disagree with one of my advice, but please feel free to help.

This is just after all, just my opinion.

I wish you luck Catie!

Soooo anyone else need help? Advice? Ice cream? :D

ICE CREAM!!!! Also, I just converted a Lover!! YAYZ!!

Hahahah lol Froggy. So you're a proud hater now?

~*~ Rain s2 Castiel ~*~ wrote: "Hahahah lol Froggy. So you're a proud hater now?"

Weeell.... actually, it was the afore mentioned Ham. I think he went anti because he likes me. But still! It counts!

So Cait, how did it go?? (in case you check back on this topic)

~ EpicFroggy ~ *Loves Tweedle-Dee!* wrote: "~*~ Rain s2 Castiel ~*~ wrote: "Hahahah lol Froggy. So you're a proud hater now?"

Weeell.... actually, it was the afore mentioned Ham. I think he went anti because he likes me. But still! It counts!"

GO GIRL POWER!!

;) we can make men do anything we want, I know first hand! :P

I need help.

There's this girl at my school that's either bi or gay. She is REALLY weird and told everyone that she wanted to be a hooker when she grew up - no, I'm not kidding. She used to be emo and makes scars on purpose. She hits on all the girls and even asks some of us out! She also flirts with guys.

Anyways... I got a hold of the cell number of a guy she's been hitting HARD on lately. I texted him, impersonating her. I feel really guilty now, but I know the guy doesn't care and nobody will ever find out. What do you think of this?

Why would you be impersonating her...?

How would you know if the guy doesn't care and nobody will find out?

Even though she is hitting on this guy HARD and wants to be a hooker and all that, you shouldn't impersonate somebody else. That is wrong.

I'm pleased to know atleast that you feel guilty, meaning you know that what you did was wrong.

Now what do you actually need help in? To know what I and the others think about your situation?

She told everyone she wants to do that...?

Um. Well.

*awkward silence*

I'll leave this to Rain...

Well first of all even though she said that, it's wrong to take someone else's identity no matter how... um... crazy she is :P

I suggest you be honest with the guy and tell him it was you. The truth's bound to come out one way or the other. If he finds out it was you, then girl, you'd be in trouble. Might as well be honest with him but prepare for the consequences.

But since you're quite sure he doesn't care, then I have the feeling that he won't be mad.

Remember, the truth will set you free. I know it's cliche, but it's a cliche that should be kept in mind every single time we make a lie.

I have a similar experience to be honest. I was a young girl addicted to Harry Potter. I called in my house (I was at my aunt's house) and spoke in a british accent to my yaya (Filipino's term for nanny) saying how I was a representative in Warner Brothers and that I won a tour of England for being a big fan of Harry Potter.

I didn't expect her to understand but she told my parents about it.

My parents were planning on going to another country and migrate and thought that the call must have been a blessing...

I felt guilty but I thought it was funny. In the end I laughed and told them. My parents were devastated. If I kept that secret for long, my parents might have not talked to me for ages.

So the sooner the better.

If you have any more questions just ask.

Ok, umm... I don't know how to put it, but I'm having trouble with my friends lately. I've known for a long time my group of friends like Yaoi, and I think it got something to do with guy guy relationships in manga, but I didn't really understand what it was. Just yesterday I found out that Yaoi manga is acually graphic... um, stuff. What I though Yaoi was all along was acually shounen ai, the more emotional part of guy guy relationships.
Its not that I have anything against gays or anything, but my friends are just 14 and they are addicted to Yaoi and reading mangas where are are very explicit scences of guys getting it on. I hadn't actually read it myself, but they talk the whole day about it and I don't know what to do. I feel that there is a thin line between accepting homosexuality and actually LIKING it, and they have fallen in so deep they are actually addicted to it. And the weird thing is that one of the more addicted ones actually thinks normal boy girl relationship is weird and guys are better if they are gays!
Because of this, my friends and I aren't getting on too well as I don't hide my distaste on their liking of Yaoi and actually said that reading graphic stuff like that is rather disgusting. They are mad at me and don't seem to get why I find it so wrong. I may accept them them reading stuff like that if they are older, but now, they are only forteen.
What should I do? I though of putting on a fake face and claiming that I like it too, but I don't wish to be a pretentious person and will stick by my views of right and wrong. I just don't feel Yaoi is right, but is my mindset wrong?

I agree with Rose, in a sense. You have to find a middle ground.

Even I get really uncomfortable when some of my friends talk about it like that... or worse, their explicit sex life... O.o

I completely understand what you're going through.

You have to be honest with yourself. Pretending to be someone you're not is never a good idea.

I guess it's just a phase that you teenagers go through. I remember a time when I used to obsess about Harry Potter (like I said in my previous post) and I was so obsessed, I go through my Aunt's old newspaper collection (to be given in a newspaper drive... and trust me... THAT'S A LOT) and even though it was so hot in the area I just kept cutting it.

It takes me hours on end just to go through every picture of Daniel Radcliffe...

Even I was known as Mrs. Potter or Mrs. Radcliffe through out the whole school.

Until one day, I just got over it.

It will take time, hon... I'm sorry to say but it won't be easy.

So for the mean time, tell them that you're not comfortable about them talking explicit things that you're not really interested in. (Trust me, even I find it gross. I don't mind gay or bi people, but I don't want to talk about private things that should be kept in the bedroom, or see them do 'things')

If your friends keep kicking you out of the conversation and the group, then I have to say they're not worth it.

True friends would do everything to keep the friendship and the peace. Although you're trying to understand them, they're not doing their part in trying to understand you (only if the case is that they ignore you)

About one of your friends thinking that guys should be gay, just ignore it...

They think that girl to guy is weird? Wow...

I wonder how her relationship in the future would turn out, then again hon that's not your problem.

Bottom line: Be yourself, find a middle ground. If your friends don't want to and you have done everything within your honest power to try and keep the friendship, move on.

I hate people who keep their friends out just because they aren't into things they like. People like that are NOT worth your time.

Friends should learn to accept one another. It's a two way thing. It's just not you who should do the work to keep the peace, they need to do it too.

The Yaoi thing is getting out of hand. Seriously. I'm already trying to hide my distaste but I sometimes slip up. I just try not to say anything on the subject at all, as that usually resulted in all of them ganging up on me and making fun of things I like. But today as I walked into school, I saw them holding a manga with some Sabastian guy it it. One of my friends saw me and giggling, showed me the pictures of a guy wearing a corset and fluffy bunny ears (but at least he wasn't sparkling). I just rolled my eyes. I asked if it was a Yaoi manga, and they said "No. But I wish it was." More giggling.

I'm starting to think that mangas are melting there brain. Not that I don't like manga, I like stuff like Zatch Bell and Inuyasha, but they liked a lot of different types and especially Yaoi ones. And whenever I say something like, "Jeez, don't talk about such stuff in front of me," one girl always respond with, "If you don't like it, go away!"

But other than whenever Yaoi comes up, we get on fine, though they talk too much about manga(normal ones) for my taste. It's like a fangirl's obsession for Twilight.

And the lemons and stuff they read is kindda... weird for hormones you know? They're thinking that they don't want to get married as they find normal relationships gross (which I don't get why), they thinking about guys with guys, with them nowhere in the equation. I feel that if all girls think like that and refused relationships with guys, guys will have nothing to do but hook up with other guys and become gay and the human race will be extinct since Adam and Eve don't want to be together.

(Sorry about my spelling and my grammer , I don't come from a country where everyone speaks english so I think I'm jumbling the grammer of a few languages together)

Hahaha it's all good Milord :P

You expressed yourself intricately and yet clearly. I agree with everything you said.

Dear God, I hope that never happens! I love being heterosexual! ;) hahaha lol! :D Well lemme tell you young teens this (not that I'm old... :P) no one can please girls better in any way other than a guy ;) Trust me! :P ahhaha well of course unless you do your self happy time... then that kinda bends the rules in some aspects I guess :P

I just don't think that I could ever go out with a girl... go shopping with her and be her friend but not anything more than that... (aside from being a sister or an adopted sister... you get the gist? :P)

Yaoi is just popular among girls. The bunny thing is just a Shojo manga. Are you a guy? Is that why you don't like yaoi? I know tons of girls who like yaoi but it isn't pornographic. They don't really show anything explicit in yaoi unless its in the adult stores where you have to be 18 to buy it. I like yaoi and shojo and shonen but then again, I am an adult. I have NEVER seen any yaoi that has full frontal nakedness or graphic scenes.
To each his or her own, even if you think it's stupid.

Oh but I have... O.o The horror...

Nah, I'm a girl. The Milord thing is actually from this villian in Zatch Bell called Milordo Z, who pretends to be someone else.

Lilly said, "To each his or her own, even if you think it's stupid."

I don't think its stupid. Honestly, and not to offend anyone, but I think its kindda gross. I mean, I have nothing against gay love, but I don't want to know what they do in the bedroom.

~*~ Candy-Rain ~*~ wrote: "I agree with Rose, in a sense. You have to find a middle ground.

Even I get really uncomfortable when some of my friends talk about it like that... or worse, their explicit sex life... O.o

Not to sound pathetic, but I don't think I ever had any true friends. Ones I really like and get along with. I have ADD, and while they keep obsessing over the same subject for a long period of time, I can barely be interested in something for more than one day and I totally forget their conversation the next. People feel annoyed repeating stuff over and over again to me and tends to snap a lot when talking to me. It's hard to be around your friends when they keep talking about stuff you are not interested in.

I don't dare to break off from my group of friends as my class is rather small, and my clique is the closest ones I can relate to, even if its not very much. I tried hard to be their friend, and even though I think I'm fairly nice and polite, I think they treat me as someone at the fringe and expendable. One of my friends is nice and friendly to everyone, but she always choose me to be mean to and don't seem to care as much for my feelings than she does for other people. Today, I invited them out on my birthday and wanted to treat them, one said her parents didn't allow her to go out on weekends, one said she would rather stay at home and read Yaoi while the last one said she just didn' feel like going out.

After reading the last parts of your comments, hon, they're not your friends.

They'd rather stay at home and read yaoi than going to their friends' party?

The other didn't feel like going out!?

They'd rather choose things they can do later over their friend?

God! They don't deserve you hun.

It's alright. I am best friends with someone who's got ADHD... I think that's it.

She's awesome! I love her to bits! :D

I agree you need friends, not whoever those people are. As for the ADD thing my husband and a few of my friends are ADD. I feel like an ADD magnet. From my experience people with ADD are more intelligent than average which means you probably need to find smarter friends who will appreciate you. And as infuriating as those ADD people are to us normal speed people, it is totally worth it, the excitement, the never getting bored. I do have to tell one of my friends "I have to stop talking now and get off the phone" to get him to end conversations but he doesn't get offended by it, he welcomes the social cue :)

Aww that's so cute, Lily :) I wish you all the best with your husband :)

You too, Milord.

Hey, changed my name to Alicia as I guess the name Milord confuse people about my gender.

Thanks for all the helpful advice. I don't think I will really break off from my group of friends as they are nice (most of the time) and maybe a little unsensitive (or I am too sensitive). I will try to talk to them about how I feel and hope they will understand. As for the Yaoi thing, I think I will just ignore it. Hope things will change for the better.

That's good Alicia, but you have to remember... your feelings always come first.

Even when I'm in a relationship I tend to forget my feelings and do everything I can to make my bf happy... in the end I tend to abuse myself. I realised we have to both work on our happiness... and if other people won't think of your happiness as well, it's time for you to move on and find someone who values you and yet take care of themselves as well. Of course, not to the point that they ignore you.

I like making people happy, and the full reason is not that I want them to be my friend or anything. It suddenly occurred to me one day that people prasing me or being nice to me makes me really happy, and if I feel that way, others must to. So... knowing that by being nice I could brighten someone's day makes me good.