Thoughts and Opinions discussion

Do you believe people from the ages of 14-25 have lost morals that were biult for us by our parents and grand parents? Is this a good or bad thing?

We haven't lost anything important. It was moral in our grandparent's time to be racist homophobes.

Lauren wrote: "We haven't lost anything important. It was moral in our grandparent's time to be racist homophobes."

What about the fact that teens get pregnant at the age 12. What about the moral about not having sex until we get married. that goes for boys and girls. Have young people lost our way when it comes to the subject of sex?

There's nothing wrong with pre-marital sex if someone is teaching kids how to be safe. The thing is, modern morals like abstinence only education actually hinder that. It's a proven statistic that in school districts without comprehensive sex ed, pregnancy rates are higher.

And now more than ever, there's so much information on sex, that the silly superstitions and taboos people used to have are going away. I would say it's actually getting better.

I agree that sex ed is a wonderful thing in school. But I am talkinga bout the actual act of having sex. Are we doing this act way to more with th so called hooking up, and just people who date and want to make sure they stay together for ever so they have sex to finalize it, only to find the boy or the girl leave the relationship because they got what they wanted.

I agree sex ed is good. but are we having sex to much for our own good?

Do you believe people from the ages of 14-25 have lost morals that were biult for us by our parents and grand parents?

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What about the fact that teens get pregnant at the age 12.

Twelve-year-olds are neither teens nor members of the 14-25 group.

I don't know what you're trying to say. Do you have specific evidence that people ages 14-25 (but not 13? 26? 54?) are acting less morally than they have in previous generations? Or are you just making some vague, unsupported claim that kids today are less moral than the older generation, what with their rap music and video games and weird hairstyles?

Dan wrote: "Do you believe people from the ages of 14-25 have lost morals that were biult for us by our parents and grand parents?

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What about the fact that teens get pregnant at the age 12.

Twelve..."

YOu know i thought about going lower with the age difference to even 11. but i thought i would be nice. but yes i do know that their are 12 year olds that get pregnant.

I do believe that our generation is less moral than previous ones. Look at our rap music videos. Most every girl in them are wearing shorts that should be considered underwear in my book. I mean heck just now on my back from school finals i saw a junior waking up a hill wearing those shorts with a boy on each side of her groping her booty.

I am also talkinga bout the morals that woman have set for us. Like not letting a man hit them or call them names or touch body parts. even out of fun. In my 4 years of high school i have seen way to much of it. boys calling girls hoes, bitch, skank. and they laugh at the names. I just dont think its right.

Video games. They were way less violent than the ones that are of today. My little brothers play this game Modern War Fare. And its just a shooting game. They go around killing people and when my brothers get into fights they really try and hurt eachother using tricks from this game.

And for the record i am making supported statements. I do not like that you make me sound like a clueless dim wit about something I am very passionate about. And I am just trying to get people to talk about what they see. Even if its out of the age i set. Just every day things that you find weird or dont go with your morals.

I do believe that our generation is less moral than previous ones.

Prior to the 1960's, racial discrimination was rife throughout the country, with blacks relegated to seperate restaurants, schools, drinking fountains, etc. Prior to 1920, women could not vote. As recently as the 19th century, slavery was legal in America. In the 18th century, people were publicly executed for witchcraft. And so on. By any reasonable measure, the country is becoming a more moral place.

As for videogames, music videos, etc., sex and violence have always been the subjects of artwork. Rock art that is several thousand years old, for example, depicts warfare, sex and people with much-enhanced genetalia. Artwork meant to titilate with depictions of sex and violence is by no means new. In 1982, a videogame was released for the Atari called "Custer's Revenge" that involved navigating a naked General Custer through an onslaught of arrows to reach a Native American woman tied to a post on the other side of the screen and then rape her. While the graphics and gameplay are crude by modern standards, it's hard to argue that this old-generation game is more moral than Call of Duty.

What you are doing is a classic case of confirmation bias, where you interpret the evidence in a way that supports your thesis. In this case, you begin with the thesis that young people today are more immoral than members of prior generations. As evidence for this, you hold up anecdotal information about teenagers becoming pregnant (which you define as immoral), music videos depicting overt sexuality (which you define as immoral) and video games depicting warfare (which you define as immoral). Then you simply assume that these sorts of things, things like them or things worse than them did not used to happen without presenting any evidence that this is the case. You also assume that there were no immoral things that used to happen that do not happen anymore, or you ignore them. Basically, by assuming that all modern cases of immorality are new, and that there are no areas in which morality has improved, you are assuming that your theory is true. And then you are using this assumption as proof that your theory is true, effectively saying, "My theory is true because it's true."

And for the record i am making supported statements.

Barely. You've made a few vague statements about how young kids are getting pregnant these days, which has no bearing on your argument that young people are less moral until you demonstrate that getting pregnant at a young age is necessarily immoral, and that people didn't used to get pregnant at a young age. You haven't demonstrated either of these things, so, no, you haven't really supported your statements.

I don't think morals are improving or wostening. Human nature is an impossible thing to change. We're bastards, and always will be.

I wouldn't have it any other way :)

(Adding that opinion to the reasons Lorna is awesome list.)

"Or are you just making some vague, unsupported claim that kids today are less moral than the older generation, what with their rap music and video games and weird hairstyles?"

teehee...our lack of bangs makes us sinners, mwahahaha.

Anyway: We could argue forever what is moral and what is not, as for girls having kids at a young age that happened in the past as well, the only difference is the girl had a ring on her finger.

I would argue (of course, being the self-centered brat I am) that my morals are better then some old white dude's that happens to be making laws that effect me. (That's right, I just called politicians dudes...)

Anyway, I suppose you could say moals are just what the majority sees as right, old people are dying off so it's time for young people to have their own moral standards.

The world continues turning and we continue growing as a society....even though I suppose you could also claim we have the same problems.





Okay. Done arguing in circles now. <3

Dan wrote: "I do believe that our generation is less moral than previous ones.

Prior to the 1960's, racial discrimination was rife throughout the country, with blacks relegated to seperate restaurants, sch..."

I am not saying my way is right. I am saying what i think is immoral in my book. May not be in yours. I am saying form my book. And you really do not have to be a jerk to me Just because what i see is not right in ur eyes. Good bye u jerky new yorker.

And you really do not have to be a jerk to me Just because what i see is not right in ur eyes. Good bye u jerky new yorker.

All I'm doing is pointing out the basic flaws in your logic. It's a community service I provide.