Warrior Fans discussion

People say that Bluestar was a great leader up until she had gone crazy but i have a different oppion. She had a good right to have gone crazy and here's why:
1.Her mate was murdered by Tigerstar and so was redtail 2.Her mother died when she was an apprentice

2.Her sister died when she had just become a warrior.

3.She had to give her kits away and one of them died while in the process of getting rid of them

4.She was almost murdered by her deputy.

5. Her kits hated her before she died.

6. SHe had just found out Graystripe was mates with a cat from RIVERCLAN!

7. Shadowclan was being as hostile as ever.

8.She watched so many cats die at her feet.

If that would have happened to you who would u trust? Your clan who you never know what they are doing behind ur back
no one
or
Firestar (heart at the time) who is the soon to be savior of the clans who has a prophecy to fulfill.
She had every right to be completely physco.

Her mate wasn't murdered by Tigerstar. He was crushed accidentally. He died by a rockfall while he was fighting Redtail.

Ummm her kits forgave her at the end. A better way to say it is that her kits hated her until the very end.

I said her kits hated her BEFORE she died and Tigerstar was their fighting oakheart before the rock fall

Yeah, but oakheart was killed by ROCKS anyway.

i am really agitated right now so i wouldnt criticize me!

i can criticize who i wish and you have no right to blow up at US for it, either, so go be angry at whatever you're actually angry at instead of taking it out on us.

I liked Bluestar.

there we go we actually started a conversation instead of talkin about me!
She was a really good leader. She always knew what he was doing

not when she was crazy.

*sigh* this is what goes back to what i posted at the top. She had every right to be crazy and even when she was she still knew what she was doing. She trusted the only person she could.

yeah, but i thought she was kinda mean anyway. she was smart, but i don't really understand why she went crazy. she had endured stuff like that all her life and never gone spaz before.

TIGERSTAR TRIED TO KILL HER!!!!!!! thats why she went crazy. he took her shock to the limit.

she'd been almost killed her whole life by enemy cats....

yes but she trusted tigerstar. He was her deputy. She thought he wasnt capable of causing that much destuction.

i made a poll. :)

she thought wrong. XD that was bluestar's problem-she was naive.

She was not! She didnt trust anyone after that! She never trusted Shadowclan in her life and riverclan she had much of a dislike for

but she was naive.

......

:(

Bluestar was not naive! She just expected better from her Clanmates. How would you feel if your bestest bestest bestest friend tried to kill you, voluntarily?

She WAS naive. she was far too gullible.

No, she wasn't. She suffered incredible sadness. She'd been holding it in for too long and when Tigerclaw betrayed her she broke down It was one thing too much. WE know what really happened. SHE did not. THE CLAN did not. DARKSTRIPE and LONGTAIL didn't even know. No, Tigerclaw hid it very well. It was Ravenpaw's unexpected presence that made his plans go wrong, along with Firepaw's determination.

Eh, my opinion is still she was naive and too willing to believe anything.

Psh, if you want to play that game then the whole entire Clan was niave and willing. And that's something I majorly disagree with. It's highly improbable.

They were when Tigerclaw had them all fooled.

But even Firepaw was fooled until Ravenpaw told him.

Yep.

yup

See, it's him. It's Tigerclaw, not everyone else.

yup

Exactly! Thanks for agreeing with me! ^^

Oh yes.

yup

Sam is totally right. I 100% agree. Tigerstar fooled everyone. Not even a whole Clan can be naive. It's just not possible.

right-o

I am so agreeing with Sam. Its not naive when someone believes one thing. The whole clan believed that Tigerclaw was good. They had no reason not to. If ravenpaw would have spoken up things might have ben different but even if he did the clan probobly wouldnt have believed him!

Exactly!

see i aint stupid! we all believed the easter bunny was real or samta clause. whay about that? arewe naive for that huh? no we are not! same with tigerlcaw and bluestar

Graystripe16 (Mrs.Fewster/Wills) wrote: "People say that Bluestar was a great leader up until she had gone crazy but i have a different oppion. She had a good right to have gone crazy and here's why:
1.Her mate was murdered by Tigerstar ..."

I agree!

poor poor bluestar but at least she made peace with starclan and her kits before she died

Uh, I never believed in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny...

What?

What does the tooth fairy and the eatser bunny have to do with a discussion about BLUESTAR?

dunno

read th whole page it'll make since....sort of

I LUV BLUESTAR!!!!!!!=)she rox

cool

I HATE YOU TIGERSTAR!!!! Why, did Bluestar have to die!!??*sobs* You little mangy piece of fox dung I hate looking at!!!!((To Tigerstar taht is...))

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