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Ok I posted the above because it was brought to my attention that it might have told us who the beast is. My theory is that Barrons is the beast, but I don't think he is dead. Seriously I have to say that Barrons and Mac belong together. Also I just read the Highlander series and I am interested to know who the MacKeltar's are that the Queen mentioned at the end of Cian's story. I have a theory that Mac is one of the MacKeltars that the Queen was talking about. She has to be related to them in some way...she keeps finding out about powers that she has. Anyway I was just curious what you all thought, and I must say if you haven't read the Highlander Series you must. The men are fantastic, and they all fall down for strong assertive women. Awesome writing.
Shannon
Shannon wrote: "Ok I posted the above because it was brought to my attention that it might have told us who the beast is. My theory is that Barrons is the beast, but I don't think he is dead. Seriously I have ..."
I thought Barrons was the Beast, as well. And he is not dead. Karen can't kill off a character like that and expect most of her fans to not toss Shadowfever out the window :) I was thinking that maybe Mac's father is the Unseelie King and her mother is the concubine. Barrons is the Cruce out to seek revenge on the UK for the concubine's suicide, being that she was Cruce's true love. He needs the book to destroy the UK. He probably doesn't know that Mac is the King's daughter, obviously she doesn't know herself. Mac's mom sent her two daughter's away to protect them from Barrons (Cruce). But, of course, there is the problem that the concubine died thousands of years ago but maybe she found out how to time travel after the fae lost their ability. This is just a strange theory I have. I'm probably way off :)
Teresa wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Ok I posted the above because it was brought to my attention that it might have told us who the beast is. My theory is that Barrons is the beast, but I don't think he is dead. ..."
Oh, I like that.. I was thinking she was the Unseelie Kings daughter too, but Barrons the Cruce, sounds really interesting. KMM would write something like that..mmmm... good pondering thoughts
Yodamom wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Ok I posted the above because it was brought to my attention that it might have told us who the beast is. My theory is that Barrons is the beast, but I don't think..."
I joined Karen's message board and flew the same scenario with them and someone responded and said that Karen was on their forum awhile back and was asked if Mac's father was any character in the past books and she said no. But the UK isn't really a character since he's just been talked about and Mac hasn't actually seen him. But I'm probably barking up the wrong tree, anyway :)
teresa.. youve got me thinking... what if that girl/woman barrons got out of the mirror (in one of the books, i cant remember which one now)was the dead concubine?.. i mean nobody really knows how old he actually is so and hes been punished by the queen because he saved the body? by making him able of chaning forms, prob barrons was her fav subject or he was that little boy she saved from somewhere and she was inlove with the UK and totally pissed off that she wasnt THE ONE..
do you understand what im saying? lol... i wrote/ thought too fast and now my head hurts!!lol
do you understand what im saying? lol... i wrote/ thought too fast and now my head hurts!!lol
I think I am glad that I wrote this to start with because these are all good ideas. I really need to read the books again. Or listen to them and get myself ready for the last book.
Hello everyone! I just recently discovered this series (not much a paranormal fan, but it was free as an ebook on Barnes and Noble and pulls greatly on Celtic lore (I was a Celtic Studies minor in college :)), so naturally, I thought, 'What the heck?'. Of course, now I'm entirely hooked. I've seen some interesting theories floating around, and I too am nervous to see who the beast really is. But I might have a bit of comfort for everyone. As I read, I started taking notes (you can do that with the digital books) on interesting conversations or things that seem random. One thing I noticed was that Mac would say something like 'One day so and so would tell me . . . ' Or, 'Eventually I would realize . . .' - so I paid attention.
Here's a quote that I found on pg. 227 of 'Dreamfever' (this is on pg. 227 of the ebook) - 'You needed to know' Barrons would mock later, 'isn't that what your Eve told Adam when she plucked your apple?'
It's not the quote that's signigicant (though I'm sure it will be later), but the fact that, beyond this sentence, it is not repeated before the end of the book, hence, Mac will have to speak with Barrons at least once more before the end of Shadowfever. He isn't dead, yet (fingers crossed), unless he visits her as a spirit. Here's to hoping he makes it through til the end :)
-Jenna
Jenna wrote: "Hello everyone! I just recently discovered this series (not much a paranormal fan, but it was free as an ebook on Barnes and Noble and pulls greatly on Celtic lore (I was a Celtic Studies minor in..."Very interesting! I don't believe that he is dead either. It has been driving me crazy trying to figure out who it might be. Thanks for your insights!
Welcome,
Kim
Jenna wrote: "Hello everyone! I just recently discovered this series (not much a paranormal fan, but it was free as an ebook on Barnes and Noble and pulls greatly on Celtic lore (I was a Celtic Studies minor in..."Hi Jenna, Glad to her that, my fingers are crossed that it's true. What an interesting Minor, have you read her Highlander series books ?
Jenna wrote: "Hello everyone! I just recently discovered this series (not much a paranormal fan, but it was free as an ebook on Barnes and Noble and pulls greatly on Celtic lore (I was a Celtic Studies minor in..."I'm also pretty new to the series, since I didn't find them until a month or so ago. And I love paranormal/horror novels. I also love the Celtic back story behind the novels. I just started reading the Highlander novels by KMM and I have to say, I'm addicted to those as well. Granted, I've only read one so far 'Dark Highlander' but it's sucked me in with the story and the Scottish history, as well. I can't wait until January when Shadowfever comes out. I know that Barrons isn't dead. He and Mac might not end up together at the end but I don't think that it will be the end of their story together.
Yodamom wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Hello everyone! I just recently discovered this series (not much a paranormal fan, but it was free as an ebook on Barnes and Noble and pulls greatly on Celtic lore (I was a Celtic St..."Haven't read the Highlander books; might have to consider those. And I don't know Teresa - if the series ends and Mac and Barrons aren't together, I'll be pretty disappointed ;).
-Jenna
I am reading
right now. Part of me wants to wait and read it closer to the the release of Shadowfever, so I don't have to contemplate it for months...lol
I think about the release of Shadowfever almost everday. I finish up a book or another series and I wish it was December or January so that I can read the last one! Such a cliffhanger! The Highlander series was good, but I don't really read much romance and having every woman be a virgin just killed me. I suppose it's a typical romance thing, although I've read a couple of Nora's and haven't experienced constant virginity! :). Ha! Anyway, this series is my absolute favorite, and I read A LOT! It's my first recommendation when asked.
August Teaser**********
“I heard Cruce hated the king, wanted his concubine, and cursed the Silvers to keep the king away from her, that he planned to take the king’s woman, and all the worlds inside the Silvers for himself,” I said.
V’lane shook his head, golden hair shimmering in the sun. “It was not so simple. Things rarely are. To use a human word, Cruce loved the king, first and above all. The creator of the Unseelie is a being of unbearable perfection. If he is indeed Fae, he is from the most ancient, most pure line that ever existed. Some say he is The Father of All. Some say he had outlived hundreds of queens before the time of the queen he slew. Many of the forms he can take are beyond even Fae ability to absorb. He has been described as having enormous black wings that can enfold the entire Unseelie Court.”
I shivered. I’d seen the hint of those wings in the White Mansion. I’d felt the concubine’s awareness of them, had empathically shared her fascination with their feathery touch on her naked skin. “I thought the queen was the most powerful of your race.”
“The queen is heir to the magic of our people. It is a different thing. That magic has never accepted a male of The True Race, although…”
“Although what?”
He gave me a sideways look from beneath his lids. “I tell you too many things.” He sighed. “And enjoy it too much. It has been a long time since I knew another worthy of confidences. There is an ancient myth that should all the contenders for the matriarchal throne be no more, the magic would likely gravitate toward the most dominant male of our race. Some say our rulers are your Janus head, your yin and yang: the king is the strength of our people, the queen is wisdom. Strength draws from brute force, wisdom draws from true power. In harmony, the king and queen lead a united court. Opposed, we war. We have been opposed since the day the king killed the queen.”
“But other queens came along. Couldn’t the king make peace?”
“He did not try. Again, he abandoned his children. Upon finding his concubine dead,through his act of atonement, he did what he had sworn never to do. By pouring all his dark knowledge into the pages of an ensorcelled tome, he inadvertently created his most powerful “child” yet. Then he vanished. It is rumored among Seelie and Unseelie alike that he has been trying to—as you humans would say about a lame horse—put it down ever since. The Hunter you saw the other night was allegedly the kings’ own for hundreds of thousands of years. It carried him from world to world, hunting his nemesis. The king, like any Fae, loves nothing so much as his own existence. As long as the Book is free, he knows no peace. I suspect if his Hunter is here in your city, the king is, too.”
I gasped. “In Dublin?”
V’lane nodded.
“In human form?”
“Who could say? There is no predicting one such as he.”
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Not a chance in hell. This is what I’ve been living for. This moment. My revenge. First the ones that killed her. Then the one who delivered her to them.
I lunge for them, screaming my sister’s name.
I slice and rip and tear.
I begin with my spear and end with my bare hands.
I fall on them like the beast-form of Barrons. My sister died in an alley with these monsters working on her and now I know it wasn’t fast. I can see her, white-lipped with pain, knowing she’s going to die, scratching a clue into the pavement. Hoping I’ll come, afraid I’ll come. Believing I could succeed where she failed. God, I miss her! Hatred consumes me. I devolve into vengeance, I embrace it, I become it.
When I finish there are no pieces larger than my fist.
I’m shaking, gasping, covered with bits of flesh and gray matter from smashing their skulls.
I double over and hit the pavement, puking. I puke until I dry-heave then I dry-heave until my ears ring and my eyes are stinging.
I don’t have to look behind me to know the street is empty. My sister’s murderer is gone.
I finally got what I came to Dublin for.
I know who killed my sister.
I curl in a tight ball on the cold pavement and cry.