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Emily
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Aug 03, 2010 05:32PM
You already know how I feel about this topic. :P
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I'm an atheist because there's no proof for a god's existence. That's why.
and theres no proof of not being a god either.
honestly i dont have a religion so its hard for me to even think where to start. i'm not really atheist but i'm not religious either.
~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awsome ♥ ! ~ wrote: "and theres no proof of not being a god either."That doesn't matter either. I'm not going to say somethings real just because a book says so. I don't think Harry Potter's real, unfortunately...
I personally just need hard evidence of something before I'll believe in it.
In this case, I don't know. I just never believed in a God and I don't think I ever will...
Harry potter's a fictional book -_-
Girl4beluga wrote: "what would "hard evidence" be????"Something you could see, touch, or hear.
Just because you "felt" something doesn't mean anything actually happened. Sometimes I think bugs are crawling all over my skin, but nothings actually there. Emotions and feelings can be toyed with. They don't show hard evidence for anything. Plus http://science.discovery.com/videos/t...
why not air? i think thats how many people 'find' god or jesus.
Can you provide an example?
Hannah wrote: "why not air? i think thats how many people 'find' god or jesus."Look above. -_____-
Girl4beluga wrote: "Air wrote: "Just because you "felt" something doesn't mean anything actually happened. Sometimes I think bugs are crawling all over my skin, but nothings actually there. Emotions and feelings can ..."Nope. If my pen started floating, I'd call my shrink. :P
Girl4beluga wrote: "you mean my experiences???"this is what I was talking about... I meant can you give me an example of 'an unexplainable event that would absolutely point you to God '
Girl4beluga wrote: "what???"An unexplainable event.
Girl4beluga wrote: "O well...it's hard to explain...but....my grandmother died for a second on my birthday and then when she woke up told everyone what would happen tomorrow when she died.....and everything that she s..."wow thats amazing!!!!!!!! Gah but kinda freaky
like clarvoyancy when someone sees the future.
Well, I believe that God exhists..... (Hey, you already know my opinion on this matter)
no i dont.
Well you don't. I meant that Girl4beluga and Air knows.
Okay, I do and don't belive in God...I mean, he creats the seasons?? We have science, we can prove what causes seasons, day and night, and evolution. The ONE true god? What about all the other religions? They have a right to worship their own beliefs.
I believe in God, and I believe that God communicates with us directly, meaning that we don't have to rely on outside sources such as priest or the Bible.
like i said i dont know, but why not? i am very curious to hear both sides.
Lindsay wrote: "This is where I see God in the world, there was once a woman who was so poor she couldn't afford milk to feed her family of six with no husband. They lived on the streets and didn't have anywhere t..."Luck. What about all the people dying of starvation everywhere else? Luck.
dont we already have a topic on god?
I do not believe in tiny green leprechauns.
I just mean, it happened for no reason, it was just "luck."
I mean, it happened for no reason other than it was lucky that it did happen before they died. :P
Is there a reason tons of children in Africa are dying?
We have to pay for people's mistakes from thousands of years ago who ate some fruit off a tree?
Yes, doesn't sound exactly fair. Should a person be punished for something that person had nothing to do with, had no stake in, had no responsibility of? It's unfair to even punish someone for what their parents did, and we're actually talking hundreds of generations here!
They didn't obey God, and ate of the apple from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Doesn't it strike you as odd that God would punish people for doing something bad even though they (according to the story) had no idea of good and bad when they did it? They couldn't possibly understand why any action would be good or bad.
If you accept that, it boils down to "they didn't obey God". Is that really such a heinous crime? Especially in the light that God is (supposedly) omniscient, and must therefore have known what would happen?
Ah, but then you have a whole different problem: which parts of the Bible do you take literally, and which don't you? How do you decide which parts to take literal? St. Augustine, the first "big" theologian, recommended not taking the Bible literally if it conflicted with things we have come to learn through science. He writes in The Literal Interpretation of Genesis:
It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian:] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.
However, St. Augustine seems to be out of fashion these days.
But god created everything, so god created the devil. O_O Why does god have to be thing big huge thing which we aren't allowed to understand? If there was ever any gods I'd follow, it'd be the Greek gods. They act like us, making them more believable. Zeus is an adultery, and Aphrodite was also the Patron Goddess of Prostitutes.
God is just as bad as them in my opinion. If we're so horrible, why is he supposed to be all loving and forgiving and all that crap, which he clearly isn't?
What if god isn't real though? What wonderful gifts does god have to offer? How are people refusing these gifts? I'm sure you'd love to receive these so called "gifts" so why aren't you? But the Greeks came before the Christians, and they're religion was a lot more cool than yours, sorry, their myths make a cool book to read, like Harry Potter. :3
How are people insisting on living in the shadow of Satan? You really aren't making any sense to me, you're just spewing a bunch of religious crap and it's hurting my head.
The word of god isn't relgious...? I'm confused...Oki doki, I do need it translated into idiot so I can understand. ^ ^
Give him a purple nurple for me please.
*areWhy don't you look above and read? She clearly believes in god.
i know, but what is her religion exactly. i beliefe in god too.
