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message 1: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin At the beginning of Uglies, I really liked Shay. She was the perfect best friend for Tally. But then...in the middle of Uglies, after Tally betrayed the Smoke, Shay started hating Tally...I'm really sad about that. They sort of ended their friendship. Even though they were friends again in Pretties, it was only because they were bubbleheads. Shay hated Tally again when she cured herself.

And even when they were both Special, they were never truly friends.

Is anyone else sad about that?


message 2: by Allie (new)

Allie (pearlrose95) | 385 comments I am very sad. Their friendship was never the same, ever ever ever, and like you said they were perfect BFFs.


message 3: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin I know!! *sniff sniff* Scott is so cruel.


message 4: by Snow (new)

Snow (kdskid007) well guys, u gotta figure. if u and ur best frend were gonna run off to someplace, and ur frend winped outon you and you went anyway, and then you met a guy and fell in love, and then ur frend shows up and kinda steals the guy away from you, and then said friend decides to btray you all to your sworn enemies, you'd probably hate your friend too. i cant truly blame Shay for her feelings.


message 5: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin I guess...but why couldn't Shay listen to Tally when she told her that she was manipulated into betraying the Smokies?

And Scott is cruel for making Tally betray the Smokies, therefore ending Shay's and her friendship!!


message 6: by Allie (new)

Allie (pearlrose95) | 385 comments It was cruel but also brilliant from a writer's point of view... think about it. it can't be all happy ending, good things. and everything was going way to good for tally


message 7: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin From a writer's point of view, it's brilliant. From a reader's point of view, it's cruel. Since I'm both then it's both for me XD


message 8: by Allie (new)

Allie (pearlrose95) | 385 comments same.


message 9: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin yeah


message 10: by Galia (new)

Galia | 38 comments btw, i actually have someone in my family named shea, pronounced shay.


message 11: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 368 comments Mod
shay always annoyed me for some reason... and then she just started creeping me out. XD


message 12: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin hm...she started annoying me when tally went to the smoke and started hanging with david.


message 13: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 368 comments Mod
yeah...


message 14: by Sella (new)

Sella Malin it's like, get over it! tally's your best friend. you shouldn't let your boyfriend get in between her.


message 15: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
I would love to have someone like Shay as a friend she the adventure type, she doesn't go along with the croud,etc.
(remeber Shay didn't want to be pretty the Specials MADE her pretty)


message 16: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 368 comments Mod
haha i don't think i'd hang out w/shay. she's a little ... um ... insane.


message 17: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
yes


message 18: by Lela (new)

Lela | 49 comments i don't really have a problem with shay. I don't really think she's insane. I mean it's not like she's just some emo person. If i were in her situation and figured out that the only way to keep my mind functioning normal was to hurt myself a bit every once in a while, i'd do it. I value my ability to think more than a little pain. I guess that big ceremony was a little unnecessary but still...she was just a little desperate. Especially since tally was getting out but she wouldn't help shay or tell her anything. i think she should have helped shay out more before shay started being weird.


message 19: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
SHAY ROCKS!!!


message 20: by Jenn (last edited Dec 30, 2008 06:41AM) (new)

Jenn shay is cool, but i didnt like her in the smoke. she was too needy and clinging on david too much in the smoke. it annoyed me.and then in pretties that whole ceremony thing was pretty creepy, but cool, u know?


message 21: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
yeah it was but Tally went along with the croud to much and was too dependent Sahay was IDEPENDENT!!!Thats what girls look up to not the Tally type thats like I cant reach that book on the top shelf its the Shay type thats like I will just make a stool with theses books........


message 22: by Jenn (new)

Jenn umm...ok? i couldnt really make sense of your comment...only part of it...


message 23: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (last edited Dec 30, 2008 04:49PM) (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
thats not the point the point is people look up to people like Shay but weaklings like Tally they look down on because they won't accomplish ANYTHING its the people like Shay that will vist mars, find the cure for cancer, make a hover car, etc. Thats who we look up to.


message 24: by Jenn (new)

Jenn i know that, but it some points in the book (in the smoke for example?) shay was a bit annoying! she was waaaaay to clingy on david, and waaaay to jealous of tally. and then when she was cutting herself the ceremony was kinda weird. thats all i said about her! god ur way to defensive about her! lol


message 25: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
w/e


message 26: by Jenn (new)

Jenn lol


message 27: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
LOL LOL LOL


message 28: by Jenn (new)

Jenn rotflmao


message 29: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


message 30: by Jenn (new)

Jenn @_@


message 31: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
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message 32: by Jenn (new)

Jenn umm....alrighty then.....

@_@


message 33: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
@_@


message 34: by Jenn (new)

Jenn hey! dont steal my thing! its mine!!!

@_@


message 35: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
hehe LOL


message 36: by Jenn (new)

Jenn lol

@_@


message 37: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
@_@


message 38: by Jenn (new)

Jenn stop it stop it stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *starts crying, and runs away* STOP IT!!!

@_@


message 39: by Cat (last edited Jan 04, 2009 03:13PM) (new)

Cat (catrav77) | 1 comments Hee, Hee

@ @
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message 40: by Jenn (new)

Jenn lol, @_@


message 41: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
uhhhh


message 42: by Emma (new)

Emma | 6 comments i like shay bettr than tally.


message 43: by Naomi (new)

Naomi (catfanatic) why?


message 44: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
hmmmmmm


message 45: by Naomi (new)

Naomi (catfanatic) Just wondering, 'cuz I like them the same. Except when Shay is acting all stupid, then I like Tally better.


message 46: by Sarah, Does Nerdy George ♥ me? (new)

Sarah Parker (sarahlizaparker) | 729 comments Mod
yeah


message 47: by Katy (new)

Katy (totalgilmoregirl) | 17 comments Tally because Shay was awesome at first, but after the Smoke, when she turned pretty, I really didn't like Shay anymore. At the end of PRETTIES, she really sort of turned on Tally, in some way, a little. In SPECIALS I wondered if she'd come out -@ the end to David and Tally's "New Smoke". She did and it shows that in EXTRAS, in EXTRAS Shay is a lot closer to the Shay the books began with.


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