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message 1: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Okay, so you've all heard the idea that America is a fucked up country and want to take over the world, right?
Well, I was thinking that we should have a place to discuss this claim (And please excuse my vague explanation, it's a whole country. I try hard not to generalize). So here goes:

Personally, I don't think America is all that bad. Sure, there're some pretty ignorant people there, who knows nothing about the world around them. But then again, every country (especially big countries) has those.

Examples:
When my friend was in America with her music-class, they met people who thought Denmark is a town in sweden. They were asked if we have letters or if we write in runes. And they asked if we keep Vikings in resevations.

I think all of the above are hilarious. But do remember that I'm not saying that all Americans are like this. I'm not even saying that the majority are like this. Americans are geneally steriotypes as:

- Ignorant
- Self-obsorbed
- Arrogant
- Uninformed

I don't believe this is true in every case. Some of the worlds smartest people came from America.


message 2: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Well... That's, ehm, well... Heehee. Fair enough. Maube one should sent a letter to your dear president, scolding him for not informing Americans of the world?


message 3: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments I don't think that everything is Bush's fault. Okay. I don't like the the guy, but blaming everything on him is a bit silly.


message 4: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) HHoly shit am I happy that you guys seem to like Obama! I have a bunch of american friends, and they're all like "screw Obama", which has lead me to think that they're are, indeed, self-absorbed. He's done a lot of good stuff. He just does it for the people who needs it, not for the people who already have everthing.


message 5: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Yeah, I love Obama. Woooo.


message 6: by Amina (new)

Amina  (journalistam) I hate all american presidents/prime ministers/ important government people. Totally. Sorry, but that's the truth. But the public's fine... I actually have some really, really good friends who live in America. Of course, every country have their bunches of nitwits, but the majority of americans are cool :D


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments I like America.


message 8: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) I hate all american presidents/prime ministers/ important government people

- Uhm... Why? Is it just a geneal rule, or have they actually done something? And is it every single president, or just the current?


message 9: by Amina (new)

Amina  (journalistam) Every one of them... because they're the ones who corrupted Pakistan with their puppets. Gah, my president is an american puppet, all my presidents have been american puppets... and obviously the leader of the country is the one who controls everything.


message 10: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Noooo. The leader doesn't control EVERYTHING. Not by a long shot.


message 11: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Uhm.... Does Pakistan have dictature?

And what about Abe Lincoln? Hate him to? And Washington? And Kennedy?


message 12: by Amina (new)

Amina  (journalistam) The one's I've been alive to :P

They are th big shot. THey make plans. And anyway, whoever does it, it's got to do with government anyway.


message 13: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments And government isn't bad. Without a bit of government every thing would be insane.


message 14: by Amina (new)

Amina  (journalistam) Yeah, the govermnent is bad. They are the ones controlling our country, FYI.


message 15: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Well... What do you want besides government? Craziness. Government covers a broad spectrum of different ways of ruling a country, whether it be a monarchy, a democracy, a dictatorship...
What do you want besides government?


message 16: by Amina (new)

Amina  (journalistam) A good gvernment. DUH!


message 17: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments What's a good government, in your opinion?


message 18: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Right, well yes. Blame him for that.


message 19: by Lauren (new)

Lauren I like America, i have been to Florida 4 times, and i'm guessing because i was at the touristy area thats why most people i met were really nice, there were some not so nice people but that happens everywhere. I do think that America is a bit dramatic, like the people just going by what i see on T.V it seems like everything to them, things that ppl her in Scotland wouldnt even shrug at they find...dramatic lol, thats the impression i get anyway. And i like Obama as president.


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments I like Obama. I went to Texas and California this summer.

Ugh I Hate Zardari... I think..

Ooh let's talk about the 9/11. It wasn't a terrorist attack right?


message 21: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Huh? Of course it was a terrorist attack...


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments Nuh uh it wasn't. There's like a whole movie that proves it wrong. I just dont remember what movie it was.


message 23: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments A movie? That sounds like a totally reliable source.


message 24: by Lauren (new)

Lauren yeh but that was a film, films are usualy fiction...


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments Lol! Because there was something.. Ugh omg I totally forgot! Sorry I can't back up my facts.. Let me try and remember.


message 26: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments I just don't buy the whole conspiracy theory about 9/11 there is just SO much proof that terrorists did it.


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments After the plane was hit, the FBI people took away all the footage and didn't let anyone see it and the pieces of the plane suddenly 'disappeared' they said it melted bit titanium doesn't melt that easily. And they interviewed the people who built it and designed it they said it was built so it wouldn't break so easily. The plane hit it and it didn't fall to the side, it just collapses? And everyone died and all they found was a passport of an Arab guy and he was alive. He wasn't even on the plane then. But they still arrested him and a few other random Arab people. How the heck was it a terrorist attack? This was obviously planned out.


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments I mean the main footage


message 29: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Nobody was alive on the plane.

None of those facts are proven... I mean... I don't even see why the government would want to do something like that. For an excuse to get into war? I just don't think that's very likely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septembe...


message 31: by Lauren (new)

Lauren I havent read the links yet, but i believe it was a terrorist attack, i dont think they planned this out...


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments They were just blaming the Arabs to get their oil. That's what it was all about. Arab countries are very rich in resources.


message 33: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments They're saying that people could have planted bombs in the towers that went off at the same time, but they also contradict that and say
"To plant bombs in three buildings with enough bomb materials and wiring? It's too huge a project and would require far too many people to keep it a secret afterwards."

You can believe whatever you want, I'm just not buying it... :)


message 34: by Lauren (new)

Lauren I read...i'm with Juliet, i dont buy it :/


message 35: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Ruby:)ForgetAboutTheSunshine wrote: "They were just blaming the Arabs to get their oil. That's what it was all about. Arab countries are very rich in resources."

Perhaps not for the oil. Bush would might want to go to war to settle some old business that his father started, but that would be it.


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments That's the only thing you read?!

America is in debt itself. Every dollar that is printed, the goverment have to pay interst for each dollar. So if they buy trillions of dollars how much money will the goverment have to give back?
Also population control. Who believes in swine flu? Or brid flu? Did you have sex with a bird? The vaccines are created by scientist made to kill people and blame it on a diesease. Just to control the population. There was a man who came up with a cure for cancer but they didn't accept it. They didn't even look at his method they just said no. For
population control. Who needs flouride In water? It does no good to teeth. It damages your brain or something. Bla bla bla bla. You guys have to check out the facts


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments Read the book
The trillion dollar conspiracy


message 38: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments "That's the only thing you read?!' - It's just the only thing I picked out.

"America is in debt itself. Every dollar that is printed, the goverment have to pay interst for each dollar. So if they buy trillions of dollars how much money will the goverment have to give back?" Your point?

Also population control. Who believes in swine flu? Or brid flu? Did you have sex with a bird? The vaccines are created by scientist made to kill people and blame it on a diesease. Just to control the population. There was a man who came up with a cure for cancer but they didn't accept it. They didn't even look at his method they just said no. For
population control. Who needs flouride In water? It does no good to teeth. It damages your brain or something. Bla bla bla bla. You guys have to check out the facts."
O_O
I do look at all the facts. And the facts are that these things aren't being engineered to kill us off.


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments If you must know the cancer cure was made and it was something like you know in cartoons this really bad singer sings and glass shatters? Well the cancer cells shatter like that too. And that man saved sixteen people in a hospital. Are you guys drinking the flouride water? Flouride comes from the word flourine which when you search up, is something poisonous that does something in your brain to make you stop thinking a little. That's why a lot of people in America don't question the government. And if you see the grades of students in America on a graph from like a long Time ago, the line on the graph would go straight down.

And I have a quick question as well... Why IS America in war with Iraw etc?


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments Okay. Why didn't they let there be a cure then? Why did the government say NO even though there was proof right in front of their faces?


message 41: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Because this never happened? I've never even heard about a man who cured cancer.

I don't even drink water with fluoride, and ever if I did, its not going to kill my brain cells. It's going to clean my teeth.

"That's why a lot of people in America don't question the government" Tons of people question the government, that's why we're NOT brainwashed.


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments Just because it didn't come on the news doesn't mean it didn't happen. Why would they want you to know that they're not allowig a cure for cancer?

And haha I knew it. Fluoride does not help teeth. It helps maybe childrens teeth but no one elses.
Fuoride- fluorine : A nonmetallic univalent element belonging to the halogens; usually a yellow irritating toxic flammable gas; a powerful oxidizing agent; recovered from fluorite, cryolite or fluorapatite

key word: toxic

if you do question then how come I'm the one telling you here?


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments And how do you know you're not drinking that water? Don't tell me you check the label or anything. I won't believe that.
And if they're not doing all this too kill people then what? Why are they making uo diseases? Creating vaccines that kill?


message 44: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments The water with fluoride is city water, I drink well water, which doesn't have fluoride. And bottled water, which doesn't have fluoride either.

They aren't making the disease. The diseases come about naturally. They create vaccines to treat the diseases.

I think that this is all insane. And you are the one being brainwashed by something.


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments Lol it's not brainwashing.

No, vaccines are supposed to be natural. Scientists are creating them with chemicals. And they are making up diseases and vaccinating people with then so they actually do get the disease.

And why didn't you answer my war question?

And still the cancer thing I'm guessing you believe that's not real as well? You're being very defensive.

Hitler used fluoride in water so he wouldn't have to deal with questions.

You're not believing this because you're not accepting the fact that America isn't always this amazing country who always cares about it's people.


message 46: by Annemarie (last edited Dec 04, 2010 12:24PM) (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments You put some of the disease in the vaccine so your body comes resistant to it, and your anit-bodies can over come it. Basic biology.

We're at war because we were trying to find the terrorists organizations who crashed the planes.

Of course I believe its not real, its bloody ridiculous.
1. I'm always defensive.
2. I'm just frustrated that you think all these things, so the tone of my comments will be a bit more angry/defensive.

Please prove the Hitler thing.

You know, I don't think America is amazing. I wasn't even born here. But I do think that it cares about the people because the whole country is BUILT ON THE PEOPLE.

And what your saying doesn't just concern America. If there was a cure for cancer it would be all over the world, just America couldn't block it out. They use fluoride in other countries and vaccinations are used all over the world!


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments Yes, but how can I prove it to you if it's written in a book! I said read Thre Trillion Dollar Conspiracy.

All the info is in there, don't think I'm making this up! :( I'm saying because this is mostly the case in America and America spreads the word.

Yeah they're finding the terrorist organizations huh. Killing so many people who probably aren't even guilty and how do you know they're in Afghanistan? Oh well... Anerica does cause a lot of problems.. No offence.


message 48: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 123 comments Our government is screwed up, but you can't say that EVERYONE is terrible without some knowledge of what's going on. What is happening? Republicans. I'm sorry but that's the case right now. Obama and most of the democrats are tryign to acomplish things and the GOP has adoped a "if obama wants it it's bad" attitude adn won't let ANYTHING through until they get what they want, which is tax cuts, which are what helped kill the economy in the first place.

As to the movie- it was Farenheight 9/11, right? To quote Dirk Cresswell: "you deserve to be lied to if you're still reading that muck."

I'm not even going to comment on the cancer and floride thing because it's too ridiuclous for words. The country that cures cancer like that is going to be a hero. Haha. (And do you really think that's biologically possible for them all to just shatter? It's not.)


message 49: by Annemarie (new)

Annemarie Carlson (annielawlz) | 470 comments Well, if the only proof you have is one book, then your information isn't reliable.

I don't think /you're/ making this up, but I think crazy people out there are making these things up to cause some controversy.

America is not the world.

Don't get me started on the war. I think its stupid and a waste of time. I just don't even... :/


Ruby~am I a part of the cure? (openupyoureyes) | 529 comments That wasn't the movie.

You just dint understand. Okay let's take out America okay? Let's just say the world. It'll make it better.
The world is over populated and people are trying to balance it out. Using such things.
This was around in the 1930s so yeah... I believe that there was a cancer cure. But whoever this man showed the proof to didn't want the word to be spread so they ruined his life. And it can shatter. Idk he made this machine to make it shatter but that's it. They didn't let him be successful. Even though the world is over populated they shouldn't try and get rid of people like that. And even if you don't believe it, It is happening.


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