TWILIGHT HATERS discussion

'Don’t worry, you are not alone in this world to think that Twilight is the most senseless as well as the most hyped series of all time. The two main characters are lame. Everything they do just revolves around how to express the (unhealthy) love for each other. I immediately get bored with Bella, a sluggish, vulnerable and intolerably fragile Mary Sue. Edward also pissed me off as much as his mediocre girlfriend did. It is strange to me that some people can worship such a josser who holds a contemptible hobby of soaking up people’s mind (a type of privacy violation) and seems very proud of it. The series gains such ridiculous fame because Ms Meyer has smartly targeted to the sensitive part of young girls: sex appeal. She uses “the perfect Edward” as the catalytic element to attract a huge fanbase of female readers who become obsessed with an ideal guy of their dream. This cheap tactics hits the jackpot out of the blue. What truly gets on my nerve is some diehard fans begin to compare Twilight to Harry Potter, another cheap (but vain) ploy to polish their own reputation.'
-Suze

'I’ve read the whole series and CANNOT fathom why people go fanatic about them.Sure , they’re an average read on a sunday afternoon when you have nothing to do.But Bella pisses me off , what with her whole “damsel in distress -needs to be saved attitude” and her complete incapability to do anything.She has no dreams or anything and is disgustingly selfish.Edward is way too perfect , which makes his character completely bland.The supposed LOVE that they share is merely an infatuation.

Jacob is the only main character I actually like.He’s believable.And frigging Stephanie Meyer , on realizing that he became very popular amongst her sensible readers, went totally out of character on him in the third book.

Oh , and lets not forget the fact that some of the scenes depicted in the book make me retch.The ‘i love you ’scenes (or similar) between Edward and Bella are downright corny.

In short , anyone who gets annoyed with you for not liking the books needs to have there head examined.

And comparisions with JK Rowling make me want to bang a heavy saucepan on someone’s head.Seriously.Harry Potter has characters , emotions and rocks.'
-Ana

'I hate Twilight too. I just read it and I found myself being annoyed at the same descriptions being used repeatedly for Edward. Sadly I know adults who think this is an awesome book and have lent this book out to other people. After I was done with this book I was so infuriated that I, instead of throwing it at the wall, went to the resale shop and got a credit for it figuring that there would be someone else who would like to have this book. Sickeningly enough, there’s a waiting list for it to come in used.

I like what someone wrote about Edward once. They said that his attraction to Bella was because she smelled absolutely delectable. Now this is something similar to my liking the smell of fresh baked cookies. On top of that if a normal guy were outside Bella’s window in the middle of the night, wouldn’t that be stalking?

Bella is whiny and she is the epitome of a Mary Sue. She is perfect and beautiful though she admits repeatedly that she thinks she’s plain. She moves to Forks and people instantly like her for the most part for virtually no reason. Then there’s her clumsiness that makes her more pitiable rather than flawed. She has no flaws and that’s annoying.

On top of that, there’s the climax where our narrator is incapacitated during the main action and so we don’t get to see certain characters fight. I call this supreme laziness on the part of the author. In addition to that, Stephenie Meyer has a moment where she realizes “Oh, nothing’s gone on in my book so far! I need a climax!” What she delivers is a fumble on the final play.

I know what good writing is. Tamora Pierce, Eoin Colfer, Joan Lowry Nixon, LJ Smith come highly recommended. It may make up for the disappointment for reading this book. For what it’s worth, I don’t like the sparklies either.'
-Lori

'I read twilight before the hype and thought it was ok (suprised it got published but ok), it read like typical fanfiction. I got really confused when people started absolutely loving it. It got to the point where I was like, “hold on, maybe I judged the book too hastily” and tried to read New Moon. I have never been more embarassed for an author after I tried to read this book. I just did not have the constitution to deal with Bella anymore. If it was possible I’d probably buy a hand gun and shoot her just to put her out of her misery.

Anyone who actually reads knows that the vampire/werewolf/human girl thing has been done before (and better might I add). Maybe I wouldn’t absolutely abhor the books if it weren’t for the crazy fans and the people comparing it to Harry Potter. Stephanie Meyer’s books have no depth, hidden meanings, symbolism or layers. They are not even comparable. In the slightest.'
-sosupercilious

'lol that book is crappily written not to mention that cheesy. Sends bad messages about love to young girls and is just bad over all

and the fact that people are comparing it to wuthering hieghts, romeo and juliet (which i hate anyway) and thoreu

come on ppl. Where is the dept in twilight? unless its a book showing oyu how not to have a realationship

jacob gets annoying in the third book too i have to say.'
-sneha

'I know! I have “friends” how won’t even talk to me because of my overall opinion of twilight. I’ll try to get my two cents in while the girls are having OMG Edward! moment, and they threaten to throw me out the window. They won’t even let me talk. And please, who else Robert Pattenson really is ugly? One friend of mine refuses to admit she even knows edward (an obbsesivve abusive freak) is fictional. The series was ok until everyone went whacko over it. I even have a ver done to earth friend that started a notebook so she could right her own endings to the series. I hope they all break up, or die trying. Bella is an idiot who doesn’t know what’s good for her and needs to get a life. Rawwr. I’m even relted to stephanie and i hate it!'
-maricio

'I’ve read all of those books and every girl I know is completely crazy about them. When I told them I thought it was a horribly written cliched excuse for a book, I got attacked.

That book follows the same plot outline as every “OMG I LOVE VAMPIRES!!1!!11″ story ever written.'
-Anne

'Hah, I googled ‘twilight sucks’ because I dragged myself through the awful first book and needed to find someone who shared my exceedingly low opinion of it. Good to meet you! Most reviews of Twilight seem to be about a book utterly different from the slow, badly-written, bad-fanfic-quality Twilight that *I* read. Not even in an ‘I can see how someone would think that, I suppose’ way, but drastically different.'
-Sabrina

'Right now I am using Twilight etc. as my guide of “what not to do” when writing my own first-person vampire story. Task one: “give narrator a personality” is complete.'
-Catherine

'I agree 10000000% with you. What irritates me is how after reading the series, all the teenage girls obsess over vampires, and find Edward the perfect guy. I like Jacob the most, too. But it sucks how most people hate him. But it’s so STUPID how people are reading it NOW when it came out like…3 years ago! I read it the first week it came out, thought it was alright, until everybody started to obsess over it.

Thank GOD there’s someone else who hates Twilight, too.
You are the BEST.'
-Kelsey

' It’s a matter of preference, apparently some people like it…I however, am not one of those people. And when I say ‘’some people”, I mean squealing girls at my school who start fangirling if they happen to see you reading the thing, going “OMGYOUREEDTWILITE?!!ITIZSOGUDITZTEHBESTESTBOOKEVAR!!SOAWSUM!!” Only reason I read it is because people kept going on and on and on about how ”OMGSEXYANDROMANTIKKANDEPICLOLZ!!!” and I wanted to see it for myself…I don’t know what the hell I was thinking when I actually went and bought it. I don’t really have a problem with people who like it, it’s just the people who obsess over it and are intolerant of people who might think differently.'
-Aly

'I’m so glad to see I’m not the only one who’s not really into the “Twilight” books. I’m 14, so as you can imagine, everyone I know is obsessed with it, which makes it pretty hard, sometimes. I feel very lonely and non-Twilight obsessed.

My problem is I just don’t like Edward. He just seems too…perfect. I was debating it with my friend and her opinion is that his “flaw” is being a vampire. I’m a writer and character development is a big thing for me, and personally, I don’t find “being a vampire” a flaw. If you took away Edward’s being a vampire, it makes me question whether he would be flawless. I know Edward probably has a lot of insecurities about the way he thinks of himself, since he is a vampire, but…I don’t know. I’ve never been into stereotypically handsome boys, so Edward just doesn’t “do” it for me. Also, some of the conversations between Bella and Edward just didn’t seem…realistic to me. I’ve gotten to the point where I really want to read the series again, because I’m sure I’m missing something, simply because it seems weird that NO ONE I know feels the same way about Edward as I do. Yet at the same time, I’m a writer, so my opinion must be at least a little valid…right?

I don’t have as much of a problem as Bella, although she does bother me some. I’ve seen people argue that one of the reasons she falls so hard for Edward is prior to Twilight, she has been very much the “adult” in her mother’s and her relationship and I guess after that she wants someone to take care of her. I guess that’s true, but it didn’t make Edward appeal to me. The other thing about Edward is that he seems really overprotective of Bella. I understand that he’s trying to take care of Bella and that the vampire world is a harsh one, but it just doesn’t attract him to me. I want someone who will support me on my decisions, not be like, “Oh, it’s too dangerous.” I mean, you could argue he has good reasons, but…he’s just NOT the guy for me.

What does bug me about Bella though is the fact that so many guys are interested in her. I know that’s really stupid, but it just felt…a little unrealistic (which I suppose is the point). Also, this is a pet peeve that goes far beyond Twilight, but I wish Stephenie Meyer hadn’t made Bella as thin. Someone argued with me that she is about the average, healthy weight for her height, but… *shrug* And with so much pressure on thinness in our society, I just wish that Bella, who gets these vampire that most people are obsessed with, were a little closer to “average” weight. But look, that’s not something I have any right to be criticizing Stephenie Meyer on. Weight is an issue that goes way beyond Twilight. It’s just a pet peeve I have in general.

The bottom line is, in many ways, Twilight is a fairytale. It’s an escape. It’s more of how people would like their life to be (chased by two boys, one who is a really handsome vampire with a supposedly cool family) than actually…real (another reason why Bella’s personality maybe isn’t that developed). Okay, I know that all fantasy is this to some extent. But I personally am more interested in books that aren’t necessarily about “the perfect life” and that do have defined characters than the “Twilight” series. And even if I was reading about the perfect life, Twilight isn’t MY perfect life. My perfect life is different. So Twilight wasn’t the same escape for me as it was for a lot of other girls my age, because my life would be…different.

Anyway, that’s that. I AM going to reread the Twilight books again before Breaking Dawn comes out because I’m still skeptical that I am missing something about them, because a part of me is sure that they are popular for some reason. Although then again, like I said…I might just have different standards in guys and real life that everyone else, who knows? It’s not an insult to the Twilight fans. I envy you guys, actually. It’s not always fun being the “different” one.

Anyway, Ashley I just noticed your comment, and I read Twilight 1 year ago, far before the “hype” started. In fact, I didn’t even realize they WERE so popular until Eclipse passed Harry Potter 7 on the Bestseller’s list for a little while. I can’t speak for other people who don’t like Twilight, but I didn’t like the series because it wasn’t my cup of tea. Not because I’m down on things in pop culture (I happen to love the HP series and Wicked, which is probably one of the most commercial musicals there is right now!). And no, I’m not “bitter” that some people like them better than the Harry Potter books. I honestly could not care. I wish I did like them better, because it would be something to talk to my friends about. And I’m 14 years ago, so I’m very much in the “intended” audience for the Twilight series (yes, not all people my age are obsessed with guys). But whatever. They just aren’t my thing. And that’s that.'
-Anonymous94

'Finally! I have only met one other person who has read those books that hates them too, which I find horribly sad. They are horribly written, and I hated all of the characters by the end of every book (well, Alice wasn’t too bad, but that’s about it). What makes it worse is that the only reasons I’ve heard for people liking are Edward is hot and the romance between him and Bella is so cute. Edward is given no description whatsoever, so how on earth can he be hot? And the Bella-Edward thing is so cliche it’s not even funny.'
-Medea

'i think you have every right to hate the book and the characters. Personally, i HATE Bella because of the exact same reasons as yourself, i also agree that there is little description PLUS the fact that nothing really happens! The only bit of action happens right at the end of eclipse with the fight scene and even that is lack luster. Pathetic! Its all too gooey gooey.
….
meh, i’ve said my peace.'
-gabrielle

'Bella and Edward aggravate me to no end! I don’t understand how people want an Edward Cullen of their own when he is overprotective to the point where he controls Bella’s entire life, and she’s too ‘dazzled’ by his good looks to seize it back. I also think it’s rather pathetic of the both of them that they spend one day together and are like ‘OHH I LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND WILL DIE FOR YOU’ and then when Edward leaves her, Bella acts like her entire life is ruined. If you are depending THAT much on one person, you’re probably better off to live without them-at least for a while so you can sort out your lost independence. They’re both two-dimensional idiots.'
-Karen

'Isabella (Bella) Swann moves from sunny Phoenix, Arizona to the gloomy town of Forks in Washington DC. Although Bella isn’t the most popular girl back home in Arizona, on her arrival in Forks she is surprised to learn that she has almost immediately attracted a crowd of loyal male admirers. But Bella’s attentions are captured by only one, the intriguingly beautiful Edward Cullen. Almost immediately, Edward and Bella fall deeply in love. Their foremost problem is Bella’s “alluring scent”, a fact that will initially see Edward struggle perilously to resist. Living harmoniously for a while, eventually throughout the story Edward and Bella’s relationship is thrown into chaos when they encounter more than one party determined to destroy their seemingly perfect world…thank god that’s out of the way. ‘Twilight’ I’m ashamed to say, is probably the single most wretched piece of writing I’ve EVER had the misfortune to encounter. I find it almost impossible to start, for there is so great a multitude of flaws in this book it almost defies logic. But enough of that. Let’s cut to the chase. ‘Twilight’ I fear, has few redeeming features and is in my opinion almost unforgivable. To begin with, the writing alone is at a completely unacceptable standard, and I consider it an insult to all of us out there who not only adore books, but those who are hoping one day to write one, that something so substandard could ever be published. Meyer’s poor, unintelligent prose didn’t strike me as “dreamy” nor “enticing” as one ill-equipped reviewer puts it - in fact I found it an absolute pain in the backside trying to stagger through the utter bullshit that Meyer postulates in this septic tank of a novel. On the flip side, perhaps we should take Twilight’s success as a good omen. If this piece of crap can get published and become a best-seller, those of us with even a gnat’s wing of talent should have nothing to worry about! But anyhow, let us move on to what really is the key issue here. Meyer’s (boring) characters. Let us begin with the protagonist, the grotesquely (and dare I say it, inaccurately) named “Bella Swann”, which literally translated means “beautiful swan”. Oh how far from the truth a name can be. Beautiful swan? Beautiful swan? Throughout the book I frequently had the urge, whilst sitting quietly on my couch in rural Australia, to leap through the page and bash her face in - those of us who are familiar with the term “Mary Sue” should have no trouble identifying with my rage. Mary Sue, the most hated character in the history of fiction (for those of you unfamiliar with the term, I must direct you to Pat Pflieger’s wonderful and informative essay: “Too Good To Be True - 150 years of Mary Sue”). Mary Sue is the embodiment of everything a true literature lover hates. She’s a stand-in, an avatar if you will, whose sole purpose is to fulfill every wish and desire of the author. Mary Sue is perfect, and if she does have any flaws at all (for example, Bella’s incessant and completely unrealistic, gravity-defying clumsiness) are created only to endear her more to the readers and to her fellow characters. Mary Sue gets to have all the fun, while us the readers, gawk on in disgust. Well I’m sorry to say it Steph, but you’re transparent and feeble attempt to make your character in any way likable completely backfired. Bella Swann is the ultimate Mary Sue, she completely dominates every page, and even when she’s not the sole narrator every other character is thinking about her! Whilst reading Twilight, one gets the uncomfortable feeling they’re reading some thirteen year old’s first attempt at fan fiction on livejournal.com. Awful. Word to the wise Steph, next time you even think of churning out something as utterly burnable as Twilight remember - an enjoyable book allows the reader to slip into the character, to see what he/she sees, feel what he/she feels. A skilled author will create a character who is realistic, or at the very least, believable. When reading Twilight I was most aware of the fact (and made quite ill by it) that this story wasn’t written to take the reader on an awesome adventure where Werewolves and Vampires rule the night - it was merely an opportunity for YOU, the AUTHOR to play out YOUR fantasies, YOUR wish-fulfillment. I’m aware that all fiction contains a certain degree of self-insertion, but please, next time (if there is one, although I’m sure there will be) have at least some consideration for your audience and don’t make it so blatantly and nauseatingly OBVIOUS! You are writing for your audience after all. If you wanted to play out some wicked child-hood fantasy you could have at least saved us a good $25 dollars and kept Twilight on your home PC. Stephanie Meyer acknowledges herself that Bella Swann is a nobody. She’s described as plain, she doesn’t think (unless it has something to do with how “perfect” and “completely flawless” Edward is. Yeah, we get it, you think he’s hot!) In fact, she is so bland and limp I, as the reader, didn’t WANT to slip into her character. Forgive me Bella, but there simply isn’t any room in our world for you. Of course this review would not be complete unless I spill my thoughts on the dull, lifeless and utterly revolting Edward Cullen. Now, as soon as I turned the second page of Twilight I knew that I disliked Bella Swann (as evidenced above). However, I pressed on, determined to get to the part everyone was talking about – the dark and mysterious Edward Cullen. Whoa! Rewind! Dark and mysterious? Edward Cullen is anything but. He acts, dresses and talks like a complete and total girl. I felt nothing toward him from the very start, and struggled to find anything, anything in this book at all that I could possibly like. Twilight was hyped so much that I desperately wanted to like it. I often enjoy teen fiction as I’m in my late teens myself, but as soon as Edward Cullen entered the scene, my stomach dropped. No. It couldn’t possibly be, I thought. Two in one book? Yes, that’s right people. Edward Cullen is a Gary Stu. Reader beware: buy ‘Twilight’ at your own peril, for this book should have been called not ‘Twilight’, but ‘Mary Sue & Gary Stu’s Excellent Adventures’. Basically, if you’re looking for a fictional vampire to fall in love with, Eddie’s not your man – he’s boring and totally unrealistic. I am totally aware that throughout the duration of this review I have relentlessly and mercilessly bashed what’s obviously Stephanie Meyer’s pride and joy, but what it boils down to is the right to be informed. For all of ‘Twilight’s’ hype and success, what it really is is ‘The Bella Swann Show’. Do not buy this book expecting troubled romance, suspense or darkness. But what you certainly CAN expect is to read all about how much every one in the entire world loves Bella Swann. Sound exciting? Didn’t think so.'
-Corinne

Hahaha!, nice one Mallie.

And to Ashley for starting this topic...*headdesk*

'Twilight fans are not your average fans. No, Stephanie Meyer has a trained army that, when commanded, will lash out at you viciously with all the ferocity of a million vampires. Which is basically whenever you say one little thing against the book.
Why?
I just don’t understand it. The book itself is…*breathing deeply* terrible. Bella is a whiny mary sue who cannot do anything for herself - edward has to save her for everything, including her clumsiness. Which is not a fault, by the way - clumsiness is just how you are. Somehow this pathetic loser gets two hot guys after her, one being team werewolf, the other being team vampire. Edward. Oh, Edward. How much do I hate thee? Only words filling the space of years and years could profess my profound hatred. I don’t think he’s abusive - I think he’s obsessive and stupid, as well as obsessively stupid. Well, he’s not stupid, excuse me, he’s perfect (HOW could I have forgotten???). THAT’S THE PROBLEM. No one wants a partner - or even friend - who’s PERFECT. I think it would have been so cute if he had a few flaws that Bella complemented. Sure there’s some romantic tension between them - at least the author got that right - but wait. Why DO they like each other? Oh, yeah, because Bella needs a guy to save her butt and Edward needs a girl who boosts his self-confidence just by tripping over everything so he feels…oh, I don’t know, perfect.
Most of my friends like the books. I read the first two for them. They squeed over Eclipse. I gave up. I was sick of the characters and losers and all the attention the books were getting. Geez, you write a book about the perfect, ungettable guy and half the teen girls in the world flip out. ?!?!??!
But I could’ve gotten past that. I could have. Sure, she was rumored to come out with a book about Twilight from Edward’s pov (idiotic, i don’t want to read the same crap again), but I could have trained myself to ignore it.
Until the Comparison.
HOW, I fumed one day when i heard the news, could the respected readers of the world compare STEPHANIE MEYER to JKR?!?!? How do you compare BELLA AND EDWARD to HARRY, RON, AND HERMIONE??? Oh yeah - you DON’T. JKR created a whole new WORLD with Harry Potter - say what you like against it, I know some people don’t care for it. But you have to respect Rowling’s imagination and talented writing skills, even if you don’t care for dragons, wands, wizards, etc.
But who had the imbecilic idea to compare that WORLD to…sparkly skin?!?!
There are so many moronic plot holes - that are gaping, let me add - that I’m surprised the books got published in the first place.

I’m sorry, Stephanie Meyer. I don’t mean to criticize you - I really don’t hate you. Perhaps I don’t even hate your books. I just hate your fan base and how it’s taking over the world. I will die (by my own hand) before joining the EdwardxBella worshippers.

-ChalkxDino

P.S. The movie casting is surprisingly accurate. I hated Cedric Diggory in the HP movies (not the book character). In fact, you could say I hate Robert Pattinson, despite my friends’ sighes of delight. So good job - the movie got one thing right - a disgustingly perfect boy in a disgustingly perfect movie role. Although I must say, what a shame Kristen Stewart is Bella. I saw her other movies when she was younger, and I did expect better from her.'
-ChalkxDino

Thanks, Ellie. I actually googled 'Twilight Haters', and we're second on the list :) This is, like the fifth I think :) I'm still goin' strong though!

'I googled ‘Twilight sucks’ and this came up XD

I honestly tried to read the first book this summer when I had nothing to do, but I got so ridiculously bored that I just stopped. I don’t think I’ve ever put a book down so fast after reading only three chapters.

Why are these books so popular? There’s better YA lit. out there that gives teens a good message. I’ve even read the author being compared to Emily Bronte (because Edward and Bella’s ‘love’ is so similar to Heathcliff and Cathy’s) and Jane Austen! JANE AUSTEN, practically the mother of romance for young women! I’ve even heard her call Edward a Mr.Darcy (!) And Wuthering Heights is my favorite book ever– At least Bronte got the point across that Heathcliff and Cathy’s all-consuming relationship was unhealthy, self-abusive, and abusive to others around them. Meyer glorifies it and says it’s the stuff of fairytales. Really Meyer? REALLY?

I remember reading an interview with Meyer where, in order to not make Bella seem utterly pathetic for becoming a zombie after her man leaves her in New Moon, she names male characters from great novels (Wuthering Height, Anne of Green Gables, Sense and Sensibility, Gone With The Wind) who abandoned their lovers and yet the women got over it. Then Meyer says that the female protagonists were strong enough to get over the pain because they’d “Never lost an Edward.”

This woman honestly thinks she’s better than these classic writers.'
-Laura

'- Bella and Edward = Mary-Sue and Gary-Stu respectively

- Being clumsy is not a character flaw!

- Ms. Meyer's vampires are perfect. We respect her attempt to do away with the classical image of vampires, however, she made them super fast, strong, beautiful, etc.... She also did away with their weaknesses. And they shine, that speaks for itself.

- If the first 200 pages of your book rely on the mystery of a character's identity, don't slap "First, Edward was a vampire" on the back cover. (We realize this is not Ms. Meyer's fault, and the choice was made by the publishers. However, this isn't a "Why we hate Stephenie Meyer" list, it's why we hate Twilight. So I would consider this a legitimate reason.)

- The author constantly repeats certain things that she's already described in full detail. (Bella's extremely noisy truck, Edwards 'perfectness', how bad she was at volleyball, etc.)

- Ms. Meyer's first-person POV sucks. She just can't pull it off. Why is that? Because she doesn't find a way to explain anything but Bella. We never get to know how Edward works because Bella never thinks it, of course, and Ms. Meyer shows no other way of expressing it.
(NOTE: We all know about Midnight Sun, so please don't bring it up as you're sole argument for this point. We've heard it all before, but the fact is that, Ms. Meyer shouldn't have to write another book to explain things that should have been shown in the original.)

- Much too little actual conflict in the story. But this probably stems from having flawless main character.

- She threw away the best part! The actual falling in love! It's supposed to happen slowly... there's supposed to be intimacy and sweetness and awkwardness. But no. It's right-off-the-bat in love. They both know it instantly. From then on it's just fighting to stop his species from keeping them apart.

- Why do they love each other anyway? She smells good and he’s hot… what?

- It's just not healthy to teach young girls that True Love involves the guy watching you while you sleep. Not to mention the messes in New Moon, omitted for spoiler reasons.

- Edward is HOT. We get it. Good for you.'
-Ane the Panther

'Edward and Bella need to stop being so perfect. Yes, Bella, I know you trip a lot, but you're still a Mary-Sue.

As stated before, I'm only about half way done, but I've already read, like, 8 or so conversations like this...

Edward: Bella, I love you!
Bella: How can you love me? You're perfect and beautiful. And I trip on stuff!
Edward: You smell good, obviously... Let's cuddle!
Bella: OK!

... *pukes a little*'
-Ane the Panther

'Bella: *Can't speak because he's so beautiful*
Edward: Oh Bella, I can't stay away from you...
Bella: [Insert fangirly Edward = Angel, too-hot-for-your-eyes comparison here]
Edward: But no! I'm a monster!
Bella: Eh, I'd die for you, so whatever. Kiss meh!'
-Minari

I know Mallie, that's exactly how I found this group. I was sick of the Twi-love (GAG) so I just googled Twilight Haters. Haha, its funny how much there is though- not that that's a bad thing...

Yeah, tell me about it. Ugh. Well, Ashley's gone for good...

Is she? Haha, she seemed like a bat spit crazy fan girl...*shudders*

She was...no, the group is private now, and Khloe deleted her. So, she's gone for good (yes!).

wtf is she doing trying to come back in?!!?!

lemme tell you she is awfully lucky that i wasn't here when she came back. i would of had a couple choice (probably commandment breaking) words for her.

Lol, yeah... ugh, she's annoying.

i mean really!! lol i saw the title of this thread and i about had a cow lol

thank god mallie got ahold of it!