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World Ocean Day
Hm, I don't live near the ocean, but I suppose I helped it by not eating tuna and washing my face with the kind that doesn't have plastic beads in it.
I live near the ocean and I love it! I so wish I could live on the beach....lol.
I live near the ocean but not near it if that makes any sense. Super close to a major river, though! And lots of streams and creeks.
Well....the county I live in...you cannot use the beach as it is closed due to "Gross stuff" in the water. I actually have to travel a bit to get to descent beach, but Clearwater Beach is nice and there are many others as well.
Oh no! Gross stuff! Yikes! Our coastline is really jagged so we have to drive a bit in order to get to real beaches on the ocean.
YES...very gross stuff....like septic gross....**shudder***
Interesting pictures...I just cannot believe these companies think it is okay to pollute that way. There needs to be a better way!
Maybe your beach is in the book! Ha! :/
Wow. Boaters? Really? ICK! Wel, I mean all of it is ick. And that beach is not lonely in this problem.
No unfortunately it is not....so many are contaminated nowadays. It is quite sad. I know there is a problem in The Florida Keys as well.
I want to read that book but I know it's going to really upset me.
Yes it would....I often have to limit what I see esp on the internet. It can be gruesome and heart wrenching.
The Internet is a powerful tool for spreading information, both good and bad. And any idiot can write something and publish it. At least with published books there is a little more of a filter (for the most part).
Hey! That's awesome. We need some of that around our shorelines.
Wow that is great! Everyone waterway should have that!
That is one thing about other cultures, they tend to have more of a stigma about wasting precious resources than we do. I think it's great!
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The UN has finally declared war on ocean plastic.
This page shows three clips, two short and one a half hour film in which a group of surfers, musicians etc. were taken out on a yacht to the Bahamas to pick microplastics out of the Garbage Patch.
Clare wrote: "http://www.ecowatch.com/microplastics......"Do you know about Social Plastic....http://socialplastic.org/
I think it is a good organization but I have not fully researched it yet.
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Kim Stanley Robinson and a London based architect debate how life will change with rising seas in 2080.
The sound quality is poor anytime we are not coming from the American studio so you may want to fast forward through the first few minutes of intro.
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Plastic microbeads washing out of cosmetics and sunscreen, and into the ocean, is a major issue. New Zealand is banning these microbeads from July 2018.
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http://www.rappler.com/science-nature...
Clare wrote: "Rather sad article on continued oil spills. http://www.ecowatch.com/exxon-valdez-......"
In the light of Trump's determination about DAPL and other future pipelines, this article is extremely important. Unfortunately, the protest, resistance, etc do not seem to change his mind. He, his advisors, his cabinet and his SC nomination all favor business profits over the environment. :-(
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This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate
Anyone who would like to contribute is welcome.
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The Narrow Edge: A Tiny Bird, an Ancient Crab, and an Epic Journey
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http://www.ecowatch.com/fast-fashion-...
In Ireland the legal requirement is for a factory's outflow pipe to be located upstream of its inflow pipe. Problem solved.
Clare wrote: "A trailer for 'River Blue' which shows how the fast-fashion industry is fouling rivers. The rivers feed into seas or lakes of course. http://www.ecowatch.com/fast-fashion-......"
That seems like a simple solution. I wonder (well, the non-cynical part of me wonders) why this is not a requirement everywhere.
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Interesting one - a marine research vessel is being built, to carry up to 100 people, with what looks like some great specs and it can burn ocean plastic for partial fuel.
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Interesting deep sea fish found off Australia, and rather sadly, 200 years of trash in the abyss.
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Thank you Sea Shepherd for some great drone footage these days. This clip shows rare Cuvier's beaked whales.
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Amazing to see what creatures are hidden in the ocean depths. Although this critter is a little "aesthetically challenged"; looks like something out of the Alien movies! ;-)
Thanks for sharing, Clare! Have to admit the Cuvier's beaked whales are a lot easier on the eyes... but the diversity of ocean life is endlessly fascinating!
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Sea Shepherd and Hollywood praise young film makers on this year's World Ocean Day.
Book GiveawayJunk Raft: An Ocean Voyage and a Rising Tide of Activism to Fight Plastic Pollution
Far from being a gloomy treatise on an environmental catastrophe, though, Junk Raft tells the exciting story of Eriksen's fight to raise awareness and solve the problem of plastic pollution, contributing to a fast-growing movement to stem the tide of trash.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
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Its a goodreads giveaway, its on the page listing the book.There is a little box halfway down the middle of the page. It's not very visible, just says, Enter Giveaway
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
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If you've entered I hope you win.
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Upstream: Searching for Wild Salmon, from River to Table
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How the Southern Ocean is getting more microplastics than expected.
"Antarctica is thought to be a highly isolated, pristine wilderness."That's too bad scientists haven't figured out what everything is connected means. They have to prove it before they believe it, in the meantime they err on the side of caution, like ostriches with their heads in the sand. It was know a decade ago that the polar bears had PCBs in their livers. so the waters couldn't have been that pristine as far as chemicals were concerned. You could look at the situation like the Earth has been struck by a huge plastic asteroid that has inflicted a great deal of damage and and has left a layer of plastic bits 10 feet deep. It already happened, so now scientists have to move off the debating platform and onto the cleanup operation.
Global sea level rise accelerates since 1990, study shows“It’s no longer a projection, it’s now an observation,” he said. “It’s not something that they can continue to put off into the future.”
Apparently according to the scientific paper the article is based on, it's still not an actual fact of climate change, being that an observation can have any number of reasons behind it, including illusions based on observable facts.
The percentage of water contributed by Greenland to account for the rising seal level has gone from under 5 percent to over 25 percent. It's melting faster than expected. I think they forgot to factor in all the water that got produced as the ice melts. Adding extra water makes the ice melt faster. It also lubricates the land underneath the glaciers so they slide into the water faster. I guess the climate change modeling programs need to go back to the drawing boards.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/e...
Once the ice coverage melts off of Greenland this will make big changes in the way the winds flow in the Arctic which will make big changes in the global weather patterns. Science is not talking much about these kinds of predictions, which is why Energy Secretary Perry is able to get away with the things he is saying. It is a fact that 20 years ago the NOAA would tell you via email that the melting sea ice would not put more water into the rain storms, that the planet would balance out the extra water as it balanced out everything so that we would continue to enjoy the same weather patterns for the foreseeable future. His information is probably 20 years old.
This is all about averages, which means in some places the sea level has risen slower than expected while it other places it has gone much higher than the average amount. Where that has happened, people are living the future now.
The coastlines are also changed by a number of factors besides just the rise in water levels.
As the ice melts, the weight on the land above and below water is diminished and the land rises. While Post-glacial rebound seems like a good thing at first, it is caused by faults that are now moving and moving the ground around them. Moving fault lines put pressure on other other fault lines. Speculation is that this means more earthquakes and volcanoes. Since we are here, the ice is melting, and some of the land is rising, we will be able to observe, along with the scientists what happens next.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/...
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Books mentioned in this topic
The Lighthouse Keeper’s Daughter (other topics)At Every Depth: Our Growing Knowledge of the Changing Oceans (other topics)
Eating to Extinction: The World's Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them (other topics)
The Ministry for Ignoring Climate Change (other topics)
Immortal North Two (other topics)
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Hazel Gaynor (other topics)Tessa Hill (other topics)
David Millar (other topics)
Tom Stewart (other topics)
Richard Fortey (other topics)
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This isn't specific to oceans, but it looks like an amazing book, The Day After Tomorrow: Images of Our Earth in Crisis.