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message 1: by James (new)

James Thompson (jamesthompson) | 228 comments It's ironic that we're having this discussion about what is noir. I was just asked to serve as editor for a noir collection set in Helsinki, so somebody thinks I know something about it. I won't go into more details until the deal is nailed down, but other editors from books in the same series include Joyce Carol Oates, Kathleen George, and Denis Lehane.


message 2: by Pam (new)

Pam This sounds pretty darn exciting!


message 3: by Martha (new)

Martha (marthas48) Yes, it does! Congrats!


message 4: by Naomi, the Sanity Check (new)

Naomi (nblackburn) | 932 comments Oh, wow..Congrats!


message 5: by James (new)

James Thompson (jamesthompson) | 228 comments Thanks folks!


message 6: by MARILYN (new)

MARILYN (MARILYNJ) | 80 comments That sounds great.


message 7: by Gyl (new)

Gyl (gylm) | 4 comments do we have a common defintion or understanding of what constitutes 'noir' ?


message 8: by Anna, the Enabler (new)

Anna (aetm) | 192 comments Yes we do, Gyl. :)
#000000 in French. There, #000000 on #FFFFFF.
Or as my dictionary app would put it,

noir |ˈnwɑː|
noun [ mass noun ]
a genre of crime film or fiction characterized by cynicism, fatalism, and moral ambiguity: his film proved that a Brit could do noir as darkly as any American.
• [ count noun ] a film or novel in the noir genre.

Which as itself would cover more procedurals and crime than I would count as purely noir, so let's expand it a bit.
Noir... from

film noir |ˌfilm ˈnwär|
noun
a style or genre of cinematographic film marked by a mood of pessimism, fatalism, and menace. The term was originally applied (by a group of French critics) to American thriller or detective films made in the period 1944–54 and to the work of directors such as Orson Welles, Fritz Lang, and Billy Wilder.
• a film of this genre.
ORIGIN mid 20th cent.: French, literally ‘black film.’


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