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Elizabeth (ezepeze11) | 582 comments what is this?? Amazon says it comes out September 27th, but I have heard nothing about it....it looks like a regular ID book, but could it possibly be a "half-and-half" or something around those lines??


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
It's a novella that will be included in the book anthology, The Unquiet.

Celebrity in Death can now be added to your shelf.


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Elizabeth (ezepeze11) | 582 comments oh okay thanks!!


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Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 1070 comments So what is Chaos and for that matter what is celebrity about.


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Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
Here's the book blurb for Chaos in Death. We don't have one yet for Celebrity.

New York, 2060. A psychotic killer roams the city with a satchel of scalpels, fresh off a triple kill. A mysterious drug pumps through his veins, making him dance in the streetlight and twirl his cape like Jack the Ripper. Eve Dallas is the tough Lieutenant hot on his trail, but this is unlike any case take she’s ever been assigned - or any killer she’s ever pursued. A police sketch based on eye-witness testimony reveals the killer has green skin, swollen red eyes, goblin ears, and a dislocated jaw-structure that defies the human form. Is it a mask? Is it makeup? Or is the explanation more sinister? Dallas faces off against multiple suspects - all of them students of medicine capable of the precise slicing of the ears, noses, and eyes removed from which the three victims received. But who had the motive? More importantly, what form of rogue science are these healers practicing?


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Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 1070 comments thanks. Can't believe someone is up as late as I am


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
I was sleep and woke up. Going back to bed now. G'night:)


Cher (sharpei) | 61 comments This is what I found on Amazon pertaing to the new short story, Chaos in Death.
From J.D. Robb: Eve and Rourke return to investigate a series of murders connected to a brilliant young surgeon in Chaos in Death.


Cher (sharpei) | 61 comments I found this for Celebrity in Death.
Lieutenant Eve Dallas is no party girl, but she’s managing to have a reasonably good time at the celebrity-packed bash celebrating The Icove Agenda, a film based on one of her famous cases. It’s a little spooky seeing the actress playing her, who looks almost like her long-lost twin. Not as unsettling, though, as seeing the actress who plays Peabody—drowned in the lap pool on the roof of the director’s luxury building. Talented but rude, and widely disliked, K. T. Harris had made an embarrassing scene during dinner. Now she’s at the center of a crime scene—and Eve is more than ready to get out of her high heels and strap on her holster, to step into the role she was born to play: cop. --


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
Cheri wrote: "I found this for Celebrity in Death.
Lieutenant Eve Dallas is no party girl, but she’s managing to have a reasonably good time at the celebrity-packed bash celebrating The Icove Agenda, a film ba..."


It's posted in the Celebrity in Death book discussion thread.


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Cher (sharpei) | 61 comments I must have missed it, couldn't find it earlier. Thanks Jonetta. :)


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
Cheri wrote: "I must have missed it, couldn't find it earlier. Thanks Jonetta. :)"

I almost missed it, too. You have to go to the 2nd page of the book discussions.


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Cher (sharpei) | 61 comments Lol, I did and the third but I didn't get much sleep and my eyes were watering. In between all that I missed it when I scaned the bajillion In Death threads. He he


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
Were you up late reading?


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Cher (sharpei) | 61 comments Yep, till about 2am and then got up at 7:30am. Duh, what a dummy. I am so brain dead today. Thinking about re-reading Indulgence and then Treachery again. I have to keep occupied till Chaos comes out.


Sara ♥ (saranicole) | 1038 comments What did everyone think of Chaos in Death, anyway?

I didn't guess who did it, although the (view spoiler) thing was REALLY obvious.


Sara ♥ (saranicole) | 1038 comments I LOVED Treachery!


TinaNoir | 106 comments I really enjoyed this one. I read it immediately after NY2D and it felt more familiar to me. Loved having the gang all back together again and Peabody with the snarky comments. The scene in Dickie's office was laugh-out-loud. I also didn't guess the 'Who' at all but I copped to the 'How' (view spoiler) very quickly.


Rosemary (rsolvang) November 26, 2012
Wow, I guess I'm really behind; last notes on this title are a year old.

Well, I'm just finishing up. The advantage of reading them more slowly than they are written is I don't spend months in baited anticipation.

Realizing I've about 10 or 15 minutes left to reach the end of the audio version, I'm just wondering, for anyone who might be interested in discussing OR anyone, who like me, is behind the curve... did this title "FIT" the story? I think this is the first time I haven't thought the title truly fit the story.
Thanks.r.


Ren Puspita (renpuspita) Hi Rosemary! I just finish Chaos in Death few days ago. From what I know, its more like re-telling of Dr Jekyll-Mr Hyde. As for the title fit the story, I think "chaos" is prefer to the culprit's name "Dr Chaos". And the antho's title "Unquiet" refers to the experiment's name Dr Justin created.


Rosemary (rsolvang) December 10, 2012

Hi Ren.
I didn’t intend it to take this long to respond to your message, my computer crashed.

Thank you for taking the time to consider what I wrote and for responding to my question.

For my part, I truly did not like this book and am disappointed to have spent the time and money to listen to it (I do audio books).

I understand the concept of “Dr. Jekle and Mr. Hyde”; for me that doesn’t “excuse” the story or the quality (somewhat lacking) of the writing.

In the “In Death” series, the reader agrees to suspend disbelief for much of what is considered “normal” in 2060. The biggest agreement to not question too deeply is the idea of the “auto-chef”. This idea is taken straight from Star Trek; a machine that, with the push of a button, offers a fully cooked dinner in a vast array of options, presented on the plate, ready to eat, within minutes. As readers, as we continue through the series, we agree to accept this fancy as possible. There is an intricate list of ideas of fancy that we agree to accept, as not only possible, but as reality in these characters lives.

J.D. Robb pushed her own envelope with the story of the woman who was dead, but managed to interact with, communicate with and give a “vision” to Eve. That was a stretch for the fancy of the “In Death” series. Why was I able to take that story without a negative reaction? I think the writing was better; that story didn’t feel “rushed” and “forced.”

AND/but, a “bug eyed, green monster” that looks normal one moment and inhuman the next? For me that is just a bridge too far.

I don’t know, maybe if the writing had been better, the story more fully flushed out, maybe I would feel and think differently. This story felt like, as Bilbo Baggins says, “butter spread on too much bread.”

Given that this is number, what? #40? of the “In Death” series and it is the first time I’ve been annoyed with the book, that is a mighty record and one dude can be forgiven.

That is my experience of this book.
I’m into the next title and happy to be back to the standard I’ve come to expect and appreciate.

Thanks. r.


Maggie | 1579 comments Was enjoying this book till the end. The guy turns into a green skinned, red eyed monster in the interrogation room? What? I get he was taking a drug, but how did it literally turn him into a monster?? Nope, the ending blew it for me : /


Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11255 comments Mod
That's a bit hard to swallow, isn't it? Pushing just a bit too far.


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
A little too much of the woo woo.


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yeah a real eye-roller


Maggie | 1579 comments I might have been able to tolerate more if there had been some explanation other then simply, he was taking the serum.


Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11255 comments Mod
lol! I buy that "change" when I'm reading a pnr book...I know going in that characters are going to shift into different beings/animals or whatever. I think this is different.


Maggie | 1579 comments And goodness know I LOVE Roarke, but the monster is being stunned by Eve, Peabody and several other cops and he doesn't go down, but Roarke runs in gives him 1 punch and the guy drops!?


Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11255 comments Mod
LMBO Maggie...now that's a real super hero!! lol Our man, Roarke! Kinda comic when you think about it!


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I think she pushed or rushed the Jekyll & Hyde parallel too hard. Now granted I'm am English teacher, but I knew exactly where this was going very early on. Her novellas always push the super natural envelope, but the J&H concept is hard to sell unless there is a lot of time spent getting the readers disbelief suspended and I just don't think she pulled it off.
She's not alone in not being able to pull it off, there are very few "remakes" of the story concept that manage to be at all convincing.


Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11255 comments Mod
I agree, Beth...none of the remakes or other "versions" of it hold a candle to the original. And it only works when it is developed slowly drawing the reader in bit by bit until they can at least conceive that it could happen, or might be possible.


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Sara ♥ (saranicole) | 1038 comments Jonetta wrote: "A little too much of the woo woo."

Exactly how I'd put it!

Maggie wrote: "And goodness know I LOVE Roarke, but the monster is being stunned by Eve, Peabody and several other cops and he doesn't go down, but Roarke runs in gives him 1 punch and the guy drops!?"

Now I'm trying to figure out who'd win: Roarke or Chuck Norris. Because everyone knows Chuck Norris could have pulled off that one punch thing, too. ;)


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Chuck would win. Roarke took three shots.


Sara ♥ (saranicole) | 1038 comments Hahaha! :)


Maggie | 1579 comments I don't mind a supernatural aspect but this wasn't supernatural, he turned into the monster because of the serum. It bothered me that there was no explanation as to how the serum worked. He took the serum, turned into a green skinned, red eyed monster, killed people, the end. WHAT????
PS- Love me some Roarke but Chuck would take him ;)


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
Cast List (view spoiler)

There are no spoilers in the list. It's only set up this way because of its length and for easy reference.


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Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 1070 comments I think I could have understood it better if his personality would change, you know superhuman strength, maybe the personality of a monster. His eyes could get red (bloodshot). If his looks changed a little that could be explained it would be easier to swallow. For instance, ruddy skin or blue nails and lips (not enough oxygen). But the way he changed so much it didn't make sense.


Belles | 156 comments I thought the premise of this one was kind of stupid. I made a note to myself to skip this one whenever I get around to a reread of the series.


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
Yeah, this was one of the weaker ones. Lots of woo woo.


Kirsten  (kmcripn) Most of the novellas have woo-woo... aren't they all released for Halloween? Ghosts, vampires, and this one was Hyde.


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15114 comments Mod
Didn't say there wasn't. Just a little too much in this one.


Kirsten  (kmcripn) Problem with the In Death novellas is they're always packaged in a collection with a Halloween theme... so, Nora has to make it fit.

Best one in a long time was the Hansel & Gretel themed one.


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