Jane Austen discussion

Lucy and Anne

All I remember of Anne was that she spoke of her beau, a doctor from home. She talked of "beaus" a lot. She may have thought a little highly of herself that she ought. She did break the engagement news of Lucy and Edward to Fanny and recieved the worse for wear abuse she from Fanny ever given. Bless her heart! as we say down south. She make the most of who she was. She even took care of Fannys little boy. She thought Fanny was being nice but in reality, she was using Anne and Lucy for free.
Lucy. Well...She was uncomfortable to be around. I say this because of Elinore. She confessed her dirty little secret and expected Elinore to be all ears and comforting about it, to give advice to her, all the time rubbing salt in the wound of Elinore. I think Lucy knew just what she was doing. She wanted to rub it in her face about Edward's choice. She talked of the great love they had and telling his mother. When he came to Norland, he had left it all behind to come to see his sister's new house. He saw a Lucy free life with Elinore in that time but he had made commitments. Lucy knew by the way he spoke of the Dashwoods that he may have special feelings towards Elinore. She made sure that that hope would be abandoned. When Edward lost his money, Lucy entangled herself with his brother who had the money, she never told them she had married Robert. She let them go on thinking they were married. Just to stick it to them.

It's true, Anne doesn't really make an impression, she's just a fly in the ointment - annoying, but bearable.

It's Lucy that I despise! That girl is evil to the BONE. You are totally right, Denisa, Lucy knew exactly what was going on. She so willfully made Elinore go through that pain and even after she DITCHED Edward despite her deep love for him, she lets Elinore go on believing that Edward has married her. She is such an evil cow and I really hope she gets what's coming to her.

I do not believe that Lucy "allowed" Elinore to believe that she had married Edward. She simply thought so little of Elinore's feelings that she did not bother to inform her or her family. She probably thought of Elinore and her family as beneath her in station now that she had married up, so to speak. It was not her responsibility to inform her rival of anything. Not that I'm excusing Lucy of her poor behavior, but you have to remember that in those times everything that a woman had for her future rested on the choice she made in marriage. A far cry from the lives of women today. Perhaps that is why we are so fascinated by their culture now.

In the new 3 hour version I can't help but love Anne, she's so blonde, poor girl!!! "It just POPPED out!!!" "Your not the only one to be cast aside like an old shoe!"

^ Haha, I know! Whoever plays her does it brilliantly!!

yes she is done really well in that version!! she's so funny bless her - well unintentionally!!!

LadyDisdain wrote: "^ Haha, I know! Whoever plays her does it brilliantly!!"

she does an amazing job!

In the book, Austen writes: "That Lucy had certainly meant to deceive, to go off with a flourish of malice against [Edward] in her message by Thomas was perfectly clear to Elinor". Even though she has gotten the brother whom she supposes will have their mother's favor, she can't resist that final jab at Edward's chosen one by sending the regards of Mrs. Ferrars - not "Lucy Ferrars" or "Mrs. Robert Ferrars".
When you think about it, there really is not much but education and importance in her community that separates Lucy from Emma - Emma is self-centered and manipulative as well, but she has had just enough importance and positive influence to keep her from allowing her ignorance to degrade into malice.

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J. wrote: "In the book, Austen writes: "That Lucy had certainly meant to deceive, to go off with a flourish of malice against [Edward] in her message by Thomas was perfectly clear to Elinor". Even though she ..."

I agree about Lucy vs. Emma. :)

J wrote - 'Even though she has gotten the brother whom she supposes will have their mother's favor, she can't resist that final jab at Edward's chosen one by sending the regards of Mrs. Ferrars - not "Lucy Ferrars" or "Mrs. Robert Ferrars".'
Of course - it never quite clicked with me!!! thanks :)

and i know what you mean about Lucy V Emma, but i prefer Emma a lot more as i don't think Emma is purposley being horrible at any stage whereas Lucy is just soo annoying and i pity Elinor when she just cannot stop talking about Edward to her... poor poor Elinor...

Soph wrote: "J wrote - 'Even though she has gotten the brother whom she supposes will have their mother's favor, she can't resist that final jab at Edward's chosen one by sending the regards of Mrs. Ferrars - n..."

Elinor is the perfect fictionalized picture of an older sister. lol

Agree there Alice!! :)