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message 1: by Kay (last edited Sep 10, 2011 01:44PM) (new)

Kay Causer (kaycauser) | 15 comments Sorry if this is the wrong place but I really want to discuss the pairings in the Warriors series.

Now, I'm only up to New Prophecy:Starlight (and will probably start Twilight soon. I wanted to read something else inbetween books but I have the boxset and I can't help myself when they're right there)

Anyway, I think some of the relationships are very realistic and easy to believe, but some are almost ridiculous to me. I don't know whether it's because one of the Erins is better at writing relationships than the other because I haven't checked who wrote what, but does anyone else agree?

For example:
Crowfeather/Feathertail - Slow build up over 'Midnight' of them spending more and more time
together. By 'Moonrise' they're admitting their feelings to each other and Crowfeather is heartbroken over her death.
Believable.

Crowfeather/Leafpool - She helps a windclan cat who is sick. He doesn't want her there and complains, but then keeps an eye on her working. They barely speak. He escorts her home in silence. She finds him at the gathering to briefly ask if the cat is alright. Later he stops her from falling over the cliff, then he's declaring his love. I'm sorry, what? Did I miss something? Am I meant to believe in this supposed love, because I really don't.

What does everyone else think?


message 2: by Sam, Silence is golden; duct tape is silver. ^^ (last edited Oct 30, 2011 03:42PM) (new)

Sam | 4849 comments Mod
Ever heard of 'love at first sight'? Well, it happens and Leafpool probably reminded Crowfeather of Feathertail. I think it's reasonble.


message 3: by Kay (new)

Kay Causer (kaycauser) | 15 comments I do agree that Leafpool taking care of other cats and her overall gentleness probably reminds him of Feathertail. That's perfectly sensible, but it just feels cheap to me to write it as "love at first sight." They could have easily made them have an actual conversation before Crowfeather saves her and have him, rather than saying he loves her, saying he likes her and maybe loves her but doesn't want to betray Feathertail.


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments I was stunned when I first figured it out, but then the second time I read the book I noticed that Leafpool was thinking about Crowfeather a lot. And when he takes her back to Thunderclan she says it's like there is a lightning storm between them....


message 5: by Kay (new)

Kay Causer (kaycauser) | 15 comments I noticed all that "lightning storm" stuff but that's just attraction. I don't deny they're attracted to each other but they don't know enough about each other and their compatability to really be in love.

I'm also sad that I know Ashfur and Squirrelflight won't get together. They're so good together right now


message 6: by Sam, Silence is golden; duct tape is silver. ^^ (new)

Sam | 4849 comments Mod
No but they can call it love. I mean, think of them like teenagers. Teenage couples say they love each other all the time. They think they're in love but then they break up later. Just because they say they are doesn't mean they are. If you think of it like that, it goes back to tbe Erins taking things from our lives into tje cat world. Does that make sense?


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments I think the warrior cats fall in love easier than humans..And I think Leafpool really loves Crowfeather. I don't know what Crowfeather thinks though...


message 8: by Kay (new)

Kay Causer (kaycauser) | 15 comments You have a point. It does come across like they're trying to write it like we're meant to believe it really is love but it makes sense, especially for Leafpool to just get caught up in the whole thing. She's never even thought about relationships before and they're both still young.

I'm happy for Sorreltail and Brackenfur having kits though. They're a nice, laid back couple. Like Dustpelt/Ferncloud or Brightheart/Cloudtail.


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments Me too! I've always loved Ferncloud and Dustpelt.


message 10: by Broadway (new)

Broadway | 165 comments Yeah, I agree with you. CrowxFeather actually has the makings of a good relationship, but CrowxLeaf seems to be founded on infatuation and lust...
What really threw me for a loop was when Erin compared Crowfeather and Feathertail to a high school romance while saying his relationship with Leafpool was a more serious adult one. I just have trouble believing this because infatuation seems to be the only explanation for her becoming his mate so quickly...


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments I feel so sorry for Nightcloud...I mean Crowfeather dosen't really love her.


message 12: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Why would you feel sorry for Nightcloud,she threated Leafpool for crossing the border with her son,Lionbaze.But Crowfeather is such a jerk,and she should forget about him.


message 13: by Broadway (last edited Sep 21, 2011 06:49PM) (new)

Broadway | 165 comments I still feel badly for her. Her mate doesn't love her and treats their son horribly. He's basically using her and her emotions to attain a better place in WindClan. No matter who you are, that's got to hurt. XP


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments I know. She is mean, but no one deserves how she is treated. But Leafpool doesn't deserve it either.


message 15: by Aoife (new)

Aoife (smiley223) | 8 comments I feel so sorry for leafpool, she's had a rough time!


HungerGamesAddict (ach45) | 1065 comments I think their relationship was necessary though for the three/2 to be born and it added a little drama


message 17: by Broadway (new)

Broadway | 165 comments HungerGamesAddict wrote: "I think their relationship was necessary though for the three/2 to be born and it added a little drama"

True, without Leaf and Crow the Three wouldn't exist, which would be kind of bad for the Clans... @_@


message 18: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Ikr,I believe Crowfeather don't deserve to have Leafpool's tears.And I bet she had a horrible kitting since she gave birth to her kits early in Leaf-bare.


message 19: by [deleted user] (new)

too bad about leafpool and brambleclaw though.


message 20: by Sam, Silence is golden; duct tape is silver. ^^ (last edited Nov 09, 2011 01:18PM) (new)

Sam | 4849 comments Mod
You mean Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw, right? Yeah, it was sad to see them split, but Brambleclaw had the right reasons.


HungerGamesAddict (ach45) | 1065 comments I loved them together!!


message 22: by Sam, Silence is golden; duct tape is silver. ^^ (new)

Sam | 4849 comments Mod
I did too, but you have to admit, Squirrelflight gave him good reasons to split....


HungerGamesAddict (ach45) | 1065 comments What were the reasons again??


message 24: by [deleted user] (new)

lol u really don't know?


message 25: by Broadway (last edited Nov 11, 2011 04:19PM) (new)

Broadway | 165 comments Lying to Brambleclaw about having kits didn't look very good for Squirrelflight. Brambleclaw understandably felt like she didn't trust him, but I think he failed to consider that she was also protecting him. Would he still be deputy if he had known along with Leafpool and Squirrelflight? Methinks not.
I think it was probably a mixture of the two reasons that she kept it from him. Squirrelflight was probably afraid that Brambleclaw might think it was better to tell someone. Being deputy put him in a rather awkward position. At the same time, she probably didn't want to drag him into the whole mess, because she knew the results wouldn't be pretty.


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments I kind of thought Brambleclaw knew..she should have told him...I think.


message 27: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Well I kinda agree with Witlea about Squirrelflight lying to Brambleclaw about the kits to protect so he don't have to get involved with the situation and problem.


message 28: by ๖ۣۜƧilverlight (last edited Nov 28, 2011 02:25PM) (new)

๖ۣۜƧilverlight Squirelflight had a rather good reason to lie, though i could understand that Brambleclaw felt betray,
Since the one cat he was supposed to trust lied to him.


message 29: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Well in my opinon he should of forget about Squrrielflight and had another mate(Ashfur) because it will never happen that way.


message 30: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Yes Ashfur is a guy but Squrrielflight thought that he would keep the secret safe but he didn't.But Squrrielflight is going through a hard time since the couple don't talk to each other like they used to be.


๖ۣۜƧilverlight I haven't read some books, and other's it's been a long while ^^


message 32: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Me too but I don't read Warriors anymore.I'm writing books about cats though but it's way different.


๖ۣۜƧilverlight Cool, i'm writing a book about wolves.


message 34: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Well my books are about cats,wolves,and big cats but it's way better than Warriors but it's going to be a love story.


๖ۣۜƧilverlight I'll be sure to read it XD, My book has foxes in it, and ghosts, and magic.


message 36: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Well I don't find if I read your books too.But mine is a series through 1 to 13.But not another like Warriors.I'm writing all 4 series of them but it's different species of animals.


๖ۣۜƧilverlight I'm getting my first book published this summer ^^, i have 3 series planned out,adds up to 15 books


๖ۣۜƧilverlight There's more than 1 main charcter in my book, but the one who's telling the story, had to go through the most. She looses more than anyone else, but she gains alot to.


message 39: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Well I'm doing my first series of whales,dolphins and other sea creatures first then the others.Can we be friends that will be cool to read each other's book. :)


message 40: by ๖ۣۜƧilverlight (last edited Dec 01, 2011 03:09PM) (new)

๖ۣۜƧilverlight Sure! i'll look forward to it, : D


message 41: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Well I explain the rest if I message you if you like?


๖ۣۜƧilverlight My computer is so slow, today. u can if u want to.


message 43: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Okay. :D


message 45: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Trust me you will LOVE my books! XD


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments I can't wait to read them!!


message 47: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments My books or Silverlight's?


Julia, a dog lover | 455 comments Both!!!


message 49: by Christina (new)

Christina | 21 comments Um thanks lol


message 50: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah me too!


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