Breaking Dawn (The Twilight Saga, #4) Breaking Dawn discussion


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i hate reneseme !

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message 1: by Veronica (new)

Veronica Black i dont wanna see breaking dawn cuz i hate reneesme ! btw im teasm jACOB lolz . do you like reneseme?


rose Yes! I Adore her!!!!!!!


Jessica I feel like Renesme just ruins everything. All I wanted was for Bella and Edward to be together and their kid ruins it. It makes it too SciFi and causes too many problems for everyone.


Megan   Renesme's creepy, and the book didn't mention how Bella is going to explain to Charlie how she's growing so fast....


Tiff She explained it by saying she won't explain it. Weird but it worked. Charlie knows somethings differnt but doesn't ask questions and just accepts that things aren't normal.

I like Renesme and the story conflict that revolves around her. I don't think Breaking Dawn would've worked out so well if it was just Cullens vs. Quileute issues again.

I don't know. Maybe it would've been interesting to see where it would go without Renesme in the mix...


Cynthia I think Reneseme was a plus in Breaking Dawn. The whole, "Bella is Mine!", "No she's mine!", thing was getting old.

I also believe that Reneseme leaves the story open for a new series, which I hope one day we will eventually have.


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

I didn't like the whole... "I got pregnant by a vamp thing." The writing of it seemed forced and not very thought out. Meyer wanted a "fairytale happy ending." That's what she wrote. No one died. Bella didn't kill anyone in her bloodlust. Jacob imprinted, so he got over Bella in one second. I believe Disney will come out with an animation, at least they won't make it so... uh, perfect.


Gerri Tsaftarides i wouldn't mind seeing reseme grow up and the love story between her and jacob.


Alexanne Uhm... Jacob and Renesmee is just SICK


message 10: by Emm (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emm Annie wrote: "I didn't like the whole... "I got pregnant by a vamp thing." The writing of it seemed forced and not very thought out. Meyer wanted a "fairytale happy ending." That's what she wrote. No one died. B..."
^^
Yeah she kinder surprised us all by not doing all the things the characters said would happen which is annoying... including the fight... so disapointing... i dont hate resemee through, i just think its slightly cruel to just right at the last minute to pair jacob with the next girl he can see... its like SM did'nt want jacob alone so she made bella have a baby (which is not possible) and then make them two love each other...


message 11: by Tiff (last edited Sep 27, 2011 05:19PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tiff With how fast Renesmee matures and grows up and how Jacaob explained how imprinting is about being who the other person needs them to be, (babysitter, friend, boyfriend) I don't think it's sick. I can see how anyone would think that so I'm not trying to argue it. Just saying I think that it makes sense. (As much as vampires and shapeshifters can make sense lol)


Terrie Reaves To me, that child should have never existed, harsh, I know, but its the way I feel. 'Broken Down' was a deal breaker, and I have yet to get over the betrayal.


AlbertaJenn You guys do know that she had planned for Renesme before Twilight was even published right? (see her website, New Moon Q&A). Renesme was a part of the story even before Jacob was. He was the add in!

And Meyer has always been upfront about being a "happily-ever-after" author. That is just her. No reason to apologize for it or explain it.


Alexanne Hey Bella I used to be in love with you, but now I'm gonna fuck your daughter
That's just the way I see it! Argh!!


message 15: by Leah (new) - rated it 3 stars

Leah i hate her too she ruined everything. i think stephanie meyer ran out of things to write about


Alexanne Leah wrote: "i hate her too she ruined everything. i think stephanie meyer ran out of things to write about"

Agreed. That person, AlbertaJenn said that SM created Renesmee's character (I still think that name's dumb)even before Twilight was published but still. I don't think she fits. I think it's because the book wasn't written that well to have this character come in sort of at the last minute. If the writing style was maybe... better and maybe if the whole book was written differently? I think Renesmee (still a dumb name) wouldn't have made such an awkward ending. And argh I still can't get over the Jacob and Renesmee thing I honestly think it's gross. Like, having a pedofile uncle gross


Joanne I don't care about Renesmee but it is without a doubt to stupidest name I think I've ever seen in any book.


vasiliki i don't have issues with nessie..i wanted jacob to be happy even though it's a bit creepy that he used to be in love with her mother and now wants her daughter..but i hate the fact that bella says that she loves her more than edward-i understand all the bonding of maternity but i..wanted themn to be "addicted" to each other!!^-^


message 19: by Siam (new) - rated it 3 stars

Siam Campbell i like renesme but yes she does reck the story!!!! it was probably going to far!!!!!


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

I do not think SM planned on Renesme before she wrote twilight. There would have been some hint or clue to it... say for instance, it would have been mentioned in passing that vampire children were "taboo"... doesn't matter what it says on her Q&A... those things can be changed accordingly.

Nothing was mentioned before BD. If fact, I distinctly remember Twilight was only supposed to be a trilogy. I guessed that changed when it became mainstream, and was making the publisher lots of money. A lot had changed when it became very popular... for one it lost it's luster (for me anyway).

Do not get me wrong. I love SM. I think she is very talented. Anyone ever wonder why Stephanie hasn't written much since, or why she is not now? She is seriously wasting her talent because of what Twilight put onto her shoulders. My opinion.


Joanne It's possible SM is focused more on the movies than writing at the moment. I have to say I think The Host is much better than the Twilight books. I think it's because The Host is more adult.
I'm only hoping in the movie of that book, they cast an actress who has more than one facial expression. I apologize to those who are fans of Kristin Stewart but I think she's like a piece of wood on the screen. Just my opinion.


Joanne I think it's the fact that he imprinted on a baby it's kind of creepy. I thought the mention of Quill imprinting on a a 2 year old was kind of creepy. I realize it is made quite evident that they will be waiting until the girls are adults but the heebie jeebie factor is definitely there.


message 23: by Megan (new) - rated it 1 star

Megan   The idea of imprinting was a stupid thing to add, as no previous werewolf lore mentions it, it doesn't add anything to the plot, and it's an all too perfect way to tie Jacob to Bella and give everyone a happily ever after.


Joanne Stephenie Meyer admitted to writing a vampire story with absolutely zero knowledge of vampire mythology. Her vamps have a mouth full of fangs, have bodies like rocks and sparkle in the sun. Why would she research werewolf mythology? She was just making everything up as she went along.


Sierra RENESMEE! Learn how to spell. That is all.


Gerri Tsaftarides Alexanne Gerard Butler wrote: "Hey Bella I used to be in love with you, but now I'm gonna fuck your daughter
That's just the way I see it! Argh!!"


oooohh no bad image in my head :/ lol


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Mary frances Geraldine wrote: "Alexanne Gerard Butler wrote: "Hey Bella I used to be in love with you, but now I'm gonna fuck your daughter
That's just the way I see it! Argh!!"

oooohh no bad image in my head :/ lol"


really bad


message 28: by Jessica (last edited Sep 28, 2011 01:39PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jessica I feel like a lot of people don't understand what imprinting is. It's not that Jacob thinks that the baby is hot and that he wants to have sexually relations with her. It's like you have a best friend growing up (of opposite gender)and you don't see them in any other way other than just friends, but you still love them and want to protect them. And then all of sudden when you both grow up you realize that you are in love with them. So when Renesmee is a baby Jacob loves her, but when she gets older he's going to be IN love with her. Which are two different things. Plus Jacob even says that he realizes that he was never in love with Bella, he thought that he was and had a strong attraction to her but he realized that it was really that he was going to imprint on her daughter without even knowing it.Is the whole imprinting thing forced and silly? Yes, but that doesn't mean that I at least I know what it actually means, which is not an adult falling in love with a baby.


Corinne Yee Initially, I hated Renesmee, but I learned to accept her. I still hate her name, though.


message 30: by Mary frances (new) - added it

Mary frances i lov the name


Maggie 1). How can you hate a non exsisting person?
2). Renesmee totally brings Bella and Edward together, they never thought they couldve had a baby cuz hes a vamp, but technically, Renesmee is like every baby and a miracle to her parents.
3). This really shouldn't be something everyone is arguing over lol


Joanne Maggie, have you never disliked a character in a book? Wickham in Pride and Prejudice and Captain Jack Randall in Diana Gabaldon's Outlander series are two characters off the top of my head I can say I hate. If I sat down and thought about it, I could name plenty more. I think the sign of a good author is the ability to create characters who inspire strong emotional reactions from their readers. Would I put SM in that category? No but I don't think people 'hate' Renesmee. People who dislike her either still want Bella and Jacob to be together and her birth cemented the bond between Bella and Edward. Or they think the character is way to freakish and creepy.
As I said in earlier posts, I don't care one way or the other about Renesmee but her name is completely stupid. Also, I understand the whole imprinting concept but I still think imprinting on a baby is creepy. And I thought that when I read about Quill being imprinted on a small girl.


Maggie Joanne wrote: "Maggie, have you never disliked a character in a book? Wickham in Pride and Prejudice and Captain Jack Randall in Diana Gabaldon's Outlander series are two characters off the top of my head I can s..."

imprinting isnt like having sex though, its like, a connection type thing. i never really fully understood it


message 34: by Sam (VanillaFountain) (last edited Sep 29, 2011 02:36AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sam (VanillaFountain) I love her


Diana Townsend I love her, I think she makes the book exciting because Jacob and Edward were starting to bore me with all their bitchiness and I absolutely can't stand Bella so the baby is a great distraction for me :)


message 36: by Lisa (new) - added it

Lisa i like her :)
it thinks she's cute
and all the talk about its sick and stuff i can understand but still this book is a fiction,
anything can happen

and i was happy to see that jacob didn't end up alone and stuff

i respect the opinions you all but yeah thats what i think


Clara anyone who hates Renesme is so WRONG, she's cute, funny, and she clears up all Jacob's "issues" by him imprinting on her!


message 38: by Ali (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ali no renessme shes just reallly weird and kinda ruins the whole book. i think the whole cullen family was better without her plus the whole thing with jacob bein like a son in law is reallllly creepy


Sam (VanillaFountain) I disagree I think it makes complete sense for Jacob to imprint on Renesmee, It explains the reason why Jacob was always attracted to Bella in my opinion. She is part vampire she is bound to be a bit weird lol


Rachelle I just can't finish this book...I just hate where it is going this hole renesme thing...it is just sick and far fetched. I have read 3/4 of the book and have put it down for like 2 years UGG...now I can't find it.

Feel like the baby ruined everything


Rachelle agreed!


Andrea Wall At first i was like... ok baby cool that's cute.
Then Jacob imprinted and I hated her.
Why couldn't he find some WHO ISN'T BELLA'S DAUGHTER???????? It just gave me the feeling that Meyer was like "oh darn, where should I put Jacob??"
I still loved the book. Just not the baby.
But, I guess she needed something to drag the fourth book out.


message 43: by Alexanne (last edited Oct 01, 2011 05:36PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Alexanne The reason why I don't really want to watch Breaking Dawn part 2 when it comes out isn't because I didn't like how this saga ended but because I'm terrified to watch Kristen Stewart acting the birth scene. If you thought her nightmare screams for Edward in the New Moon movie were bad... prepare yourself for Kristen's childbirth cries.... oh god my ear are already bleeding...


Gerchia Joanne wrote: "It's possible SM is focused more on the movies than writing at the moment. I have to say I think The Host is much better than the Twilight books. I think it's because The Host is more adult.
I'm on..."


Soarise something- she's the lead in the movie Hanna and she was in city of ember- is going to play the lead in The Host.


Gerchia Alexanne Gerard Butler wrote: "The reason why I don't really want to watch Breaking Dawn part 2 when it comes out isn't because I didn't like how this saga ended but because I'm terrified to watch Kristen Stewart acting the birt..."

that's so funny; I actually think she acted the best in those scenes then in the other parts of the movie.


Gloria why do u guys hate her so much shes just a lil kid????


message 47: by Camile (last edited Oct 02, 2011 06:29AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Camile Clara wrote: "anyone who hates Renesme is so WRONG, she's cute, funny, and she clears up all Jacob's "issues" by him imprinting on her!"

Yea i totally agree i think she is so cute and fits perfectly into the story


message 48: by Camile (last edited Oct 02, 2011 06:31AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Camile Gloria wrote: "why do u guys hate her so much shes just a lil kid????"

I dont hate her i think shes adorable!LOL


message 49: by Camile (last edited Oct 02, 2011 06:37AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Camile "Joanne wrote: "It's possible SM is focused more on the movies than writing at the moment. I have to say I think The Host is much better than the Twilight books. I think it's because The Host is mor..."

i hate the host and much perfer the twilight books but thats just my opinion


message 50: by Sami (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sami i love renesmee , grow up she is just a little kid


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