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Did Congress really screw up now, or what?

Please discuss.

I don't even understand the reasoning, really. I mean, I understand that the 2 tablespoons of tomato sauce or whatever have sufficient nutrients to define a vegetable...but wouldn't that just define a tomato as a vegetable? I mean, then you could label anything containing any plant material as a fruit/vegetable. Pumpkin pie could be considered a fruit. It's ridiculous.

Tomato has the nutritional value of a vegetable, but in itself a tomato is a fruit, so .. double fail? :-P

Basically, people (schools federally funded for lunch foods) were butthurt that pizza was going away, so they decided to push it as a "vegetable" to make people happy and to keep on the menu. I think they also did this with French fries. At lest, this is what I sum up from it.

This whole thing makes me laugh! I mean, are they trying to make kids even fatter? Instead of eating real vegetables like salad or carrot sticks for lunch, kids will start to think " oh I'll just have a slice of pizza as my vegetable today!"

Our school re-vamped the whole menu. Instead of selling Doritos, they sell "reduced fat baked Doritos" .. and we know how good those are! *sarcasm*

And kids aren't limited on what other additional "snacks" they can buy during lunch. Not to stereotype, but I've seen some of the more obese kids buying like, a stack of ten cookies during the meal. I have a notably small appetite and even I think the portions should be larger. For crying out loud, you're feading 9th - 12th graders, not elementary kids.

This is why you're fat America...

Cody wrote: "This is why you're fat America..."

Exactly.

I mean I do prefer good food over healthy food, I don't eat ridiculously healthy, I'm picky and I like good food. But I don't put false pretenses on it by calling anything I eat a vegetable that's not... Except maybe mushrooms, but I also admit that they have little nutritional value... I love mushrooms.

Well, come on, they're mushrooms. They've got to be some kind of exception. Pizza, however, is just laughable. I mean, seriously? Seriously? Pizza? A vegetable? lolwutNO.

I love mushrooms too - especially in a cheesy or creamy sauce. Go figure x-P

Overall, this move is more political than anything else. But puh-lease ..

It can have veggies (too lazy to spell it correctly), but I don't think it really is. Tomatoes are supposevily fruit and cheese is dairy and crust is grains. Whaaaaaccchaaaa!

*sacasim* it is obviously a veggie! Duuuuh *sarcasm*

HAHAHAHAHAHA

;)

Niiicce

I mean, even salad isn't a vegetable. It just has vegetables (and/or fruits :P)

Well salad is a very broad thing...

Like, your typical salad with lots of green stuff and then maybe tomatoes and onions and dressing. :P

And isn't it true that a tablespoon (or was it teaspoon?) of (ranch?) salad dressing is equal to eight strips of bacon? Or something similar.

Bleh, I'm not surprised, and dressing tastes terrible anyway '-_- Olive oil ftw!

I don't mind dressing, but I hate it when someone drenches salad with it. I'm more of a French dressing person anyway. But my favorite salad part? CROUTONS. LOTS AND LOTS OF THEM. I even eat them plain as a snack .. lol ..

Well, yeah, I guess it depends on the dressing, I was talking about ranch >.<
Haha I love croutons!!! We rarely ever get them, though...I'm too lazy to really make a decent salad anyway xD

Tenebris In Lux wrote: "And isn't it true that a tablespoon (or was it teaspoon?) of (ranch?) salad dressing is equal to eight strips of bacon? Or something similar."

Eh no lol http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/p...
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/f...

About 2-3 though depending on what value you're looking at.

Yeahhh. Pizza may have vegetables on it but that doesn't make it a vegetable. I mean, that's like saying that a pizza is a cheese. Or a pizza is a pepperoni. It just makes no sense.

THE RATIO OF TOMATOES AND CHEESE WILL DO FOR NOW.

Brigid *Flying Kick-a-pow!* wrote: "Or a pizza is a pepperoni."

I say it's a pepperoni!!! For sure, especially the veggie kind!

kinda off topic, but- I just took a botany class and learned that a lot of "vegetables" and other things are actually fruits- cucumbers, green beans, walnuts...if it's got a seed, it's a fruit!

Walnuts are seeds, but other than that, yep.

well...perhaps you're thinking of only the part that we eat? I'm pretty sure that that part is a seed...but the entire "walnut" is a type of fruit called a drupe (surprisingly, in the same category as cherries and peaches)...and, oh yeah- a strawberry is not really a berry, but a banana is! I thought that was funny...

Peanut isn't a nut, it's a legume! (I think...)

Kirby - Well, yeah...I assumed we were talking about only the edible parts :P
What's the definition of a berry?

Cody - Yeah, that's true.

No, it isn't a vegetable. But you can have vegetables on it.

From the New World Encyclopedia: In botany, a berry is a fleshy or pulpy indehiscent fruit in which the entire ovary wall ripens into a relatively soft pericarp, the seeds are embedded in the common flesh of the ovary, and typically there is more than one seed. Examples of botanical berries include the tomato, grape, avocado, and persimmon.

*note- indehiscent means that the fruit does not spit open to release the seeds. a legume is a dehiscent fruit.

Ohh OK. Interestingful.