Teens Against Discrimination discussion

Hmmm.... I don't know yet, do you?

Yeahhh ... What exactly do we do in this topic? Just name books we don't like?

If you mean bad book, as in a book that promotes racist attitudes, I doubt, in our PC culture now that there are that many of those.

Anything by Hitler and the KKK... idk what goes here.

Book I didn't like persay: "If I Stay"

I liked If I Stay. But, not tremendously.

I think it was the dialogue and some of the stuff that happened that ruined it... The dialogue was TERRIBLE! It was also a pretty generic plot line...

Good Point: ...Told through an uncommon viewpoint.

EJ Luv Zombie wrote: "I think it was the dialogue and some of the stuff that happened that ruined it... The dialogue was TERRIBLE! It was also a pretty generic plot line...

Good Point: ...Told through an uncommon viewp..."

Yeah, some of the dialogue did feel rather forced. Her little brother talked like he was, like, 12. And he was supposed to be 7. Also the scenes between her and her boyfriend were kind of ... awkward. Like the whole "PLAY ME LIKE A CELLO" scene. I was like, "Haha... what?"

But yes, I did like the viewpoint. It was a cool premise. When I picked it up, I thought the whole thing was going to be a girl whining about how her family was dead, so I was pleasantly surprised that it was more original than that.

LOL! I LOVED THAT SCENE! IT WAS HILARIOUS!
"Now, play me like a guitar..."

Only slightly more original though. I found out they made a sequel that literally has like nothing to do with the first book. I was thinking WTF is this about... did she get in another car crash or something? I'd be freaked out by vehicles! No, it's from her boyfriend's point of view and guess what...

THEY BROKE UP AFTER THE LAST BOOK! She plays for an orchestra and he has a slut or something for a girlfriend. Then they meet by accident in New York... he can't get back... drama ensues...

(This sounds like every crappy comedy romance)

I have to admit, that I own and am going to read Mein Kampf one of these days:p

No, If I Stay #2 (Where she went) is completely brilliant! It focuses on the boyfriend's life after Mia disappears from it..

I liked the first one enough, and I agree, it wasn't a stunning work of fiction(especially the PLAY ME LIKE A CELLO scene-PWAHAHAHAHA! Seriously? Sometimes authors write the most ridiculous things because they seem poetic, but they forget that REAL people are reading the words, and which pimple-faced teenager can relate to such a hilariously over-wrought scene?!) but the second one really was incredible. One of my favourites of 2011 of the YA genre, that's for sure. Here's a nice quote from the book to whet your appetites:

“I know. So, I was angry with you. I didn't know why. I was angry with the world. I did know why. I hated all my therapists for being useless. I was this little ball of self-destructive fury, and none of them could do anything but tell me that I was a little ball of self-destructive fury. [...] I knew I was angry. Tell me what to do with that anger, please.”
― Gayle Forman, Where She Went

I liked the second book but not as much as the first. I thought it was interesting to know what happened after the tragedy, but it wasn't really necessary. The end of the first book was just so powerful that the second book kind of weakened its impact. I liked it better when the rest was open to interpretation...

Woolfie: Seriously? I think I couldn´t put up with that crap. And it would be hard to get, as I live in Germany. They´re pretty serious about that kind of thing still...
But I have to admit I don´t want to read it, so no problem for me.

What can I say Marlene, I like reading of rationalizations, even if it's irrational, I mean not everyone in Nazi Germany were mindless morons, they were people too, not monsters, they had to have had some reason, whether or not we are inclined to agree or otherwise, that persuaded them that what they did was the way to go.

Yeah, I agree; I've wanted to read Mein Kampf, too..

I mean, it'd be interesting to see how Hitler'd rationalise such irrational behaviour, right?

Who doesn't want to be inside the mind of such a bizarre man, a man who shaped history on such a MASSIVE scale?

HAs anyon read farenheit 450. I tried reading it, but I couldn't understand what was going on... :S

I've read Fahrenheit 451 several years ago. I don't remember it very well.

I have Fahrenheit 451 on my bookshelf, but it keeps getting put off:p

A book I suggest people stay away from because of offensive messages:

Why?
http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...

Horrid Book, forget the author it's called Monster.
Extremly racist to African Americans.
A african american male, 16 I beleive, is senested to court for a shooting he didn't do,
They keep saying he's being sentensed because he's
Black.
It's horrid.

Well I tend to stay away from books that have angels in them as a rule, I don't appreciate being preached at, although I really loved
Although that said, I succumbed to curiosity yesterday and did something I told myself I wouldn't; buy a copy of and , oh I am weak...:p

Am I the only one who hated ? I never finished the 2nd book because it was torture.

I used to hate them...
(view spoiler)[Becuase of that whole 'incest' bussiness...I read that spoiler before I read CoB and it skewed my perspective of it....but then I read CoG... (hide spoiler)]

I really hated becuase I got to this one scene that creeped me out and I was unable to continue.
I also dispised because whatever it promised, lied.

Oh yeah, Starcrossed. I've been very skeptical of that. Seen many many MANY negative reviews.

I also hated the WHOLE series. -_- God, I don't even know why I read through every single book.

Starcrossed...Basically Twilight with a slight Greek Mythology spin. My 12yo self would have adored it(which just goes to show how much my tastes have improved in the last few years).

Immortals. For so long I had a love-hate thing going on there(one day I'd LOVE it, the next, I'd HATE it) until it turned to all out hate.

Yeah. xD If I were still young or new to YA, I might love most of the books I now hate. I've learned my lesson now. I truly do realize that no book out there can compete with the gem that is Angelfall. <3

Anyways, EVER BLOOM. MY GOD. Have you noticed that she makes absolutely horrible decisions? Ugh, I almost went bald reading those books cause I was pulling my hair out in frustration. ._.

Hmm yeah...
A lot of the books I hate have these stupid tropes that I might have liked if I were still 12.
Haven't read Angelfall. I hear it's really good, though.

Ever Bloom. That name was stupid in itself. Even I, totally sleep deprived, could thing of a better name.
I jus

Also, I was reaaally dissapointed with In the Arms of Stone Angels becuase it had sosososososoooo much potential...but it failed.

Really good is an understatement. See my review for a look at how I was a few seconds after I finished it.

And really? D: Dang, I just got that book recently. ._.

I saw it. The book's been on my to-read list for a few weeks.
I just don't own a kindle/ebook reader (I'm somewhat morally against them) and I'm lazy.

Hmm yeah...
It just didn't really work for me.
Brenna(I had to look up her name....) just annoyed me and....eh. The small town dynamic for the 'evil' part(did that make sense?) of it could've been done better.

Other books I didn't like were Elixir (becuase it was such a joke of a book) and Wake which was awful. Reaaaally awful. Chopy and rather stupidly plotted.

I agree with you about Elixir. And Wake was actually one of the first YA novels I've ever read, so at the moment, I liked it. I'm not sure I would now.

I also hate the Hush Hush series. -_- All because of Patch Fricking Cipriano. He's exactly like Jace. Only good for his godly good looks. I couldn't find anything remotely sweet in either of those two. As for Patch, I decided I hated him after I read the craptastrophe that is Crescendo.

fαuzαn | wιld нearт ♥ wrote: "Am I the only one who hated ? I never finished the 2nd book because it was torture."

Yes it is rather a slog, but I read it more for the understanding of the Nephilim world, I wasn't expecting much, and so it turned out.

fαuzαn | wιld нearт ♥ wrote: "I agree with you about Elixir. And Wake was actually one of the first YA novels I've ever read, so at the moment, I liked it. I'm not sure I would now.

I also hate the Hush Hush series. -_- All be..."

Elixir was just that kind of book that I could never take seriously. Cursed Vengance is not a good name for an evil group. I mean really.

Wake frustrated me. It seemed too rushed and the ending was a total let down.

I liked Hush, Hush and I might be one of the few people in the world who did. I'm not saying it's the best, but it is pretty good to me anyway.

A book I'm going to be forever frustrated with is The Host. Stephenie Meyer cannot write well and the whole damn plot...*mutters*

I agree with you on two points and I can calm you: I liked Hush Hush too. It´s not really one of my favorites, but I liked to read it. Happy now? ;)

I also didn´t like The Host. Oh please, more than half of the story was about wandring around in a dark cave, going to toilet in a dark cave and being hated by everyone living there. Umh, have I forgotten anything? No? Right.

Good to know I'm not alone. XP
(It isn't my favourite either, but I did like it).

There were many things I had issues about.
(view spoiler)[WHY DIDN'T WANDA DIE? SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE SO IT COULD BE BEAUTIFUL AND TRAGIC. I have a lot of feelings on this subject. (hide spoiler)]

Beat me too it...

Frankenstein...

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I agree with one of those...

Frankenstein?!?!?! Right?

Yeah! Screw Mary Shelley, that whore!

@EJ

YES!

@Brandon

NOO!! Why would you read that disturbing book!

It's a book about mob psychology and persecuting those that are different physically and mentally from you.

Brandon... Think of someone calling the Bible a great piece of LITERATURE...

Moral Guide: Ten Commandments.
Don't kill, steal, or be jealous. :)

What do you have against Frankenstein? It's not one of my favorites, but I liked it.
But you're right about "Mein Kampf". It's still forbidden to read it in Germany and even if it wasn't, I certainly wouldn't want to read it.

What do I have against Frankenstein!?!?!?

I don't. I was joking. :P
Mein Kampf is the bad one. :)

I just read what you thought of Frankenstein...
WTF is with that book.

Exactly! It was terrible...

I quite liked Frankenstein, alright it was written for it's time, so it might not be a riveting read with the sort of writing that readers nowadays would love, but the fact that the 'monster' is human and very flawed makes it worth reading, just as is one of my favourite books The Invisible Man

One other book, that I found much easier to read, but equally insightful, was The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde loved it.

No it is terrible even for 200 years ago.

Jekyll and Hyde; AWESOME!

I think the worst books are the ones you read because other people say it's good, and it's hyped up to the point where a mediocre read skyrockets to the top of a popular books list, which by definition is an indication of poor taste, public opinion encompasses the lower common denominator, and there's no argument for discerning good taste.

Case in point, Fifty Shades of Grey, a decidedly mediocre book, where every other activity is, I hink you'll have guessed. While I tend to take book recommendations from bestseller lists with a pinch of irony, I do reach in to see what the fuss is about.

I think the excruciating process of reading Tiganahas put me off Guy Gavriel Kay, perhaps I might try reading him again at some point, but not anytime soon.

At the end of the day, what makes a bad book is bad writing, a lack of imagination and credulous storytelling, but more often than not it's down to unmet expectations, mismatch between reader and book, and the impossible to win situation that is subjectivity, one man's meat is another man's vegetable, or something...

Woolfie wrote: "I think the worst books are the ones you read because other people say it's good, and it's hyped up to the point where a mediocre read skyrockets to the top of a popular books list, which by defini..."

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