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message 1: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments well this is to talk about the brothers.....


message 2: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments oh for those who want to follow and add their 2 cents ill cut and paste the start of this discussion!


message 3: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments [rjsmommy says]
I think we've had this discussion before Rayna...I just don't like Rhevenge. He's a drug-dealing, pimp blackmailer who is so over-protective of his sister it's almost abusive. Please explain to me why you can't like a "nice" brother like Vishous? Or try to convince me of why I should change my opinion of him...what did I miss?


message 31: by Rayna (last edited 6 minutes ago) 13 minutes ago
oh yes we did...lol

Well for starters honor, courage, love and devotion. He may have had to delve into the dark things like dealing and prostitution....but he always protected his own (and treated those in his employ with respect even if that was the profession they chose).....he loved his mother and sister and did pretty much anything to see them protected, and that goes for xhex and trez and iam! He loved Ehlena so completely that to save her from the evil witch he faked his own death. For a man who had to give up everything even his pride an self worth to protect those he loves, now thats a male of worth! i will overlook the way he had to get the finances for the honor and courage and love he expressed! Im not a big V fan ill tell you why in a tread on vamps r us instead of clogging up Anges page.....will start it shortly!


message 4: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments okay so in continuation on the whole Rhev vs V discussion.....

You know how i feel about Rhev, but V to me is lacking. Here is a brother that yes has been abused as a child and really that can be devistating. But not to truly open up even to the woman in your life about what is you says alot about this brother! There has to be a time that one must overcome the past and move onto a better future......V still isnt there yet and may not be even after 2 books.....because realistically Payne's book was more about V than anyone else!


message 5: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy Rayna wrote: "okay so in continuation on the whole Rhev vs V discussion.....

You know how i feel about Rhev, but V to me is lacking. Here is a brother that yes has been abused as a child and really that can ..."


I think V's reaction to his childhood is definitely understandable...come on this was abuse to the ultimate. His father abused him verbally, emotionally, and physically...to the point of almost castrating him,then tattooing him with a warning for others to stay away from him and finally exiling him to the wilderness. He was left with no-one but himself. And then add on his powers of prognasticationwhere he can see how all those close to him dies but doesn't know when or how to stop it...that would also force him to try to distance himself.

Rhevenge at least had a mother and sister to help him emotionally before/during/ and after his father's abuse. He also had the catharsis of avenging his abuse. And Rhevenge wasn't very forthcoming about his secrets with his family or Ehlena. Didn't it disturb you when he kept trying to get Phury to upgrade to heroin/cocaine? Even after he realized who he was?

As to opening up, you have to remember how quickly his romance was...just to admit he loved her was a major breakthrough. And Jane had issues to deal with too. I think there finally was healing in Payne's book. The ending seemed to leave this impression to me.


message 6: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
She had to write Rhevenge that way. It was in his very nature! And that is EXACTLY what drug dealers do, try to entice u into trying something more.


message 7: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments haters.....im surrounded by haters....lol Im a glass half full kindof girl! lol


message 8: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy Rayna wrote: "haters.....im surrounded by haters....lol Im a glass half full kindof girl! lol"

I think Tiff was atually trying to defend Rhevenge. I can see he has some good points but they just don't cancel out enough ..at least for me. We will have to agree to disagree on this one I think.


message 9: by Rjsmommy (last edited Jan 16, 2012 07:20PM) (new)

Rjsmommy I'm listing my favorite Brothers here:

V, Qhuinn (if we count John we have to be able to count Qhuinn), John Matthew, Rhage, Blay, (He's down on my list because of the Saxton situation), Tohr, Butch, Wrath, Z, Rhevenge,then if they count (which they really don't in my head) Manny/Payne and finally Phury (he's just such a whiny, depressing male).

You must know how much I dislike Phury if Rhevenge, Manny and Payne are before him.


message 10: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments i updated mine......i put in quinn and blay too


message 11: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments I have to say they would rank like so for me...

Rhevenge, John Matthew, Quinn, Rhage, Z, Wrath, V, Thor, Butch, Blay(because of saxton), Phury


message 12: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments mind you i kinda like Manny too!He'd probably be between Butch and Blay for me


message 13: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments Rjsmommy wrote: "Rayna wrote: "haters.....im surrounded by haters....lol Im a glass half full kindof girl! lol"

I think Tiff was atually trying to defend Rhevenge. I can see he has some good points but they ju..."


i read it again.....yeah i dont know what i was thinking....anyway Rhev's my fav......also cause he has a very good supporting lead! Which makes him better....the love og a good female of worth!!!lol


message 14: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
Lmfao!!! Y y'all hatin on Blay?!


message 15: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy Tiffany wrote: "Lmfao!!! Y y'all hatin on Blay?!"

Only because he's hurting my Qhuinn ...OK...Qhuinn has brought it on himself... but still. They both better get their acts together SOON!


message 16: by Rayna (last edited Jan 17, 2012 07:10PM) (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments I think Blay should have pushed Quinn a bit harder.....Quinn is all messed up and i think a little too immature and needed that extra ummmph to stop being such an ass! Its all about protecting Quinn ;)


message 17: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy Rayna wrote: "I think Blay should have pushed Quinn a bit harder.....Quinn is all messed up and i think a little too immature and needed that extra ummmph to stop being such an ass! Its all about protecting Quin..."

Yay...we agree on someone!!! :) Though aren't we really using a double standard here? I mean, Qhuinn was basically a whore and here we condemn Blay for finally getting some after Qhuinn kept on refusing him...Bleck...what am I talking about? Of course, Blay should have waited for Qhuinn!


message 18: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments too funny! too many double standards


message 19: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
Oh bull!!! Quinn kept throwing ppl all in Blays face. Literrally screwing chics in front of him!!! Soooooooooo not fair. :-P


message 20: by Rayna (last edited Jan 18, 2012 09:35PM) (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments i agree....Quinn's an ass! but a fine one at that! but i will remind you that at that time Blay never told Quinn how he felt!


message 21: by Rjsmommy (last edited Jan 19, 2012 04:39AM) (new)

Rjsmommy Rayna wrote: "i agree....Quinn's an ass! but a fine one at that! but i will remind you that at that time Blay never told Quinn how he felt!"

I have to disagree with that. Yeah, initially Blay didn't admit how he felt and they even shared partners in their clandestine bathroom rendevous (which Blay admitted he did just to be with Qhuinn). But by the time that kiss happened in the infirmary...which was what... gotta be at 4-5 books ago, Blay told Qhuinn how he felt...hence the kiss. Yet Qhuinn continued to whore around in front of Blay, probably subconsciously hoping that it cause Blay to stop loving him because Qhuinn doesn't feel worthy of love. His family and the glymera society have branded him "defective" and he believes them.


message 22: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments yup...sorry, got my trimelie screwed up! Quinn's just an ass...lol but still a fine one! Theres something about Ward's men that just get me no matter how bad boy they are....im willing to overlook ALOT!


message 23: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy Rayna wrote: "yup...sorry, got my trimelie screwed up! Quinn's just an ass...lol but still a fine one! Theres something about Ward's men that just get me no matter how bad boy they are....im willing to overloo..."

Obviously, I am too! Gotta love Qhuinn...as Blay too clearly realizes...even if he is with Saxton. God, even Saxton realizes that they love each other (which gets me mad...how could he do that to his cousin?)!


message 24: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments Saxton DRIVES ME NUTS....and if they stay together for much of the next book i may throw it!!!


message 25: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy Totally agree...but I'm hoping they don't last through it. Ward posted a clip from the book on her Facebook page and it shows just how jealous and over Saxton Qhuinn is. So I'm hoping he finally mans up and tells Blay how he feels.


message 26: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments one can dream.....authors tend to drag things ot though!


message 27: by Angela (new)

Angela McPherson | 180 comments Hey, I was looking this series up and I notice there were quite a few Novella. Have any of you read those too? Just wondered, thanks
~A


message 28: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
Quite a few!!!!! Ah crap, I musta missed some! :-(

Lol, I have read The Black Dagger Brotherhood An Insider's Guide by J.R. Ward Father Mine Zsadist and Bella's Story (Black Dagger Brotherhood, #6.5) by J.R. Ward I thought those were the only ones!!! Have I missed something? Speak now woman!


message 29: by Rjsmommy (last edited Jan 22, 2012 06:55AM) (new)

Rjsmommy The only other novella I know is "The Story of Son" which appears in the guide and in the the anthology Dead After Dark (Includes Dark-Hunter, #16.1) by Sherrilyn Kenyon

And this is just a story that takes place in the BDB universe; doesn't contain any Brothers.


message 30: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
*phew* Ok. As u c Ang, we're kinda die hard fans. LMFAO!!!!


message 31: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments i actually hvent read the novellas....been meaning to but had yet to pick them up! one day....added to the long list of 'to reads' sigh. sorry i did read Story of Son...my bad!


message 32: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
How could u not have read Z's short?!?!?!?!?!?!


message 33: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments TIME! I have very little! lol


message 34: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
Excuses excuses!!!


message 35: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments mt life is full of excuses.....its an addiction! Falls into the category of procrastination....which my life is also full of! lol


message 36: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
LOL!


message 37: by Angela (new)

Angela McPherson | 180 comments Tiffany wrote: "*phew* Ok. As u c Ang, we're kinda die hard fans. LMFAO!!!!"

LOL! Sorry to scare ya;)


message 38: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
Ur forgiven, this time. LOL :-P


message 39: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments Okay, ive been trying to answer a question and can't! Does anyone know how many books will be in the BDB series???? Got me ive tried about 10 sites to find the answer but come up empty! Most say 10 but we are at that already and she still hasnt got to Quinn and Blay! PLEASE HELP inquiring minds would like to know?


message 40: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy I don't know how many either...I had heard 10 and then 11 but like you I just want to know when Qhuinn and Blay's book / novella/ HEA is happening!


message 41: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments did you know that you can find out everything about the BDB on that website EXCEPT for how many books are in the series!!!! SO annoying!


message 42: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy I love the website but I only go every few months because I tend to get consumed with reading everything.


message 43: by Jeanne (new)

Jeanne (jedkmd) | 1 comments The series was originally only contracted for 10 books (that mean through the one coming out in late March), but J.R. Ward has said on her facebook page and website that she is now "open-ended" without a specific number of books and will continue to write the Brothers as long as the readers and her publisher will let her (and as long as the guys "keep talking to her"). She has also said that she already knows who is next (after Tohr) but can't announce it yet...


message 44: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


message 45: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments Jeanne...you are my most favoritest person right now! My biggest pet peeve of authors is not tellinng you how many books they will be putting out in a series.....at least give a person a ball park as well as an update here and there!

TY


message 46: by Rjsmommy (last edited Feb 06, 2012 04:59PM) (new)

Rjsmommy For ALL US Qhuinn & Blay Lovers:

JR Ward posted this on her FaceBook page last night:

‎"So you've taken out your piercings," Blay said.
"Not all of them."
"Why? I mean... they were always, like, you, you know?"
"Guess I don't want to be defined that way anymore."
As Blay's brows popped, Qhuinn's kind of wanted to do the same. He'd expected something else to come out of his piehole. Something like, "Meh." Or, "Whatever." Or, "I still got 'em where it counts, don't you worry."
After which he could honk his package, and snort like he had balls the size of his head.
No wonder Saxton seemed attractive.
-Lover Reborn, pg. 140-141 (This is number two for the Super Bowl quotes, thanks to Yvonne!)

Poor , mixed-up, sad Qhuinn.......


message 47: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments you just had to go and post this.......now i really want to read that friggin book and we have a bit to wait still....argggg


message 48: by Tiffany, *nIGHT mISTRESS* on a MisSiOn! (new)

Tiffany (vampoholic) | 3255 comments Mod
Do u hate her as much as I do right now? LOL


message 49: by Rayna (new)

Rayna  | 1785 comments oh yeah! big time, when does that damn book come out???


message 50: by Rjsmommy (new)

Rjsmommy MARCH 24TH!!!!!!!!! It seems like ages from now!


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