Born This Way discussion

Let me say this now.
I AM A CHRISTIAN
I am also gay.

Now:


I just want people to be okay with me being gay.
I mean, I've made my dad cry a lot.
He was the South African equivalent to a Marine.

I was christian.
but now,
i'm not.
i don't have a religion.
i'm not atheist....but at the same time,
i guess i am.
it's not that i don't believe in anything,
it's just that i believe in everything.

So you're agnostic?

Ima catholic.

I didn't know that?

Guess there's a few things you dont know about me too.

Well, does your church. Mind gay people.

The hardcore cathoilics dont accept it, but my family does, and my friends/

That's cool.

I suppose... I mean, I really find it unfair and all, and I have nothing against people who are attracted to the same sex or both.

But they dont accept it for the simple fact that in the bible, it was always between man and woman, so the believe he didn't apreciate it.


I'm not making you feel worse... am I?

No. And it never said that.
If you'd like, I could show you a really good website?

I know. I was just making sure..
Yeah sure, that be cool :)

http://wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/bib...

^
Best website.
Ever.

I'll check it out.
Thanks.

Please do.
It's so helpful.
Well, for me, obviously.

I'm reading it now :)

Awesome.
:)

Wow, so far this IS a really good web

It is! I love it!

I just read the page, it is REALLY good. Puts a lot of things into perspective. Must be really helpful to people like yourself.

I shall save it to fave's

It is.
I makes it... Easier.
I highlighted all those stories in my bible.

Or I'm going to, for this Ek didn't already.

Good on ya Francois

All I can do.

There may be more.. once you can tell your family.

Once.
Not now, though.

I'm not gonna force you.
You do it when you want.
No pressure :)

Yeah, I know.
But I don't know when...

When it feels right, it will happen.
Just relax and give it time.
Playing the convo in your head always helps -try to be positive about it though... otherwise it kinda defeats the purpose of helping you...-

I CAN'T!!

Then there's nothing more I can say that can help you here....

sorry...

No, I'm sorry. I just can't stay positive.
No matter how I say it.
My mum will cry.
My dad will cry.
It'll all be the same.

Dont be, I dont understand what you're going through.

You cant blame them if they cry.
It has to be hard for them too.
To hear your child is gay... it has to be tough on them aswell.
But they wont disown you.

You don't know them.
Nice on the outside.
Nice enough on the inside.
Butt fuck (See what I did there?), it's scary.

I know I dont know them... thats what makes this harder.

With what? your little outburst? It wasnt that bad... I have them all the time. I'm just being stubborn.

I know.

xD

And it's not a little ouburst anymore.

Can you honestly blame yourself for it?
This is one of the most hardest things in life.
It cant be that surpising...

And I'm going to be so busy this year...
And then this..
Ugh.

Your in year 10 this year right?
That must be hard... See? you cant blame yourself for yellin at people. It happeneds.

Year 8 is like a slack year for us.

And I'm Headboy. And I'm in Cadets. And I need to get a job. And I have like, a ton of exams. And...

Wow! You have a lot of things... exams suck. D:

Maybe it means something... like... you should focus on this before you go back to school, so you wont have to worry about hiding you whoa re on top of everything else?

Now, Francois, since when did you find out you were gay?

Oh, and by the way, since this thread is about religion, I'm a Muslim.

I've always known. I've tried to change. I went out with tons of girls. But I never felt... Anything. I... I was born this way. I can't help it.

And... Well... What does the Quran say about this?

Francois wrote: "I've always known. I've tried to change. I went out with tons of girls. But I never felt... Anything. I... I was born this way. I can't help it.

And... Well... What does the Quran say about this?"

I think........I'm afraid.........the Quran doesn't exactly support gay people.

And well...that is surprising........you had always known it?

I was born this way.
I've been like this for a long Time, just not knowing how to cope with these feelings.


Maybe that's just some poeple's interpretation of the Quran?
Or...?

Francois wrote: "So you're agnostic?"

i guess,
i don't know what agnostic is

You haven't made up your mind about anything for sure.

oh,
then i guess i'm
agnostic

So, you read my two new bits I added to "Coming out" and my post on "Steriotypes"?