The Clave discussion

So, I was thinking about what somebody had earlier posted with regards to the dress Isabelle was wearing the first night Clary met them, and I noticed something. Can't believe I didn't see it before, but the club Simon and Clary are going to and where Clary meets Jace, Alec and Isabelle for the first time is the Pandemonium Club. Anybody else find this to be an interesting tidbit? Coincidence or not?

I was thinking, we know that Cassie has mixed the two series in the past (having Tessa show up in CoG, which was published a year or so before Clockwork Angel) so maybe she is getting set to drop something really big in the last ID and last two MI books.

Thats what i was thinking too!
I really hope she does include the ID characters in the last MI books, that would honestly be a dream come true haha

yes i realised that too. i think there is something rather suspicious about the pandemonium club. actually i am quite positive it is the same one. it would be rather interesting if it all ties into this club. i would love it if any of the id characters appear in tmi! oh the possibilities...

p.s christian thanks for putting this discussion up :)

I realized this the moment i read clockwork angel. i was thinking why would clary and simon be at a club like this. it may be the same club. and maybe even the club in COLS. i agree with you Aycal it could all tie up into this club. very interesting...

i dont know about TID charactors appearing in TMI. Only the immortal charactors. in the end i believe the to series will connect. i am dieing to find out the connection between Will and Alec!

ooohhh i forgot about will and alec. i cannot wait till its out!

Since I read TMI before Infernal Devices, as soon as I read about the Pandemonium Club in Clockwork Angel, I realized right away the two shared the same nam. But I dont know why, they probably are connected in some way (besides the same name of coarse). I wish the other books would come out all ready! All this guessing is just about killin' me.

Why would simon and clary be at the pandemonium club in the first place!?

Rania wrote: "Why would simon and clary be at the pandemonium club in the first place!?"

hmm good question. i think simon dragged clary there. but i am not sure. i never thought about it. rania you are VERY good at anaylsing. seriously.

oh thank you Aycal! and you are a VERY good friend. :)

hmm,they never explained much about the pandemonium club in TMI. only in TID. and for all we know its a dangerous club.

and wats up with that demon in the begining of COB, the one that looked like a human. was he a shape shifter?

Rania wrote: "oh thank you Aycal! and you are a VERY good friend. :)

hmm,they never explained much about the pandemonium club in TMI. only in TID. and for all we know its a dangerous club.

and wats up with tha..."

:) thanks

yeh i think he was a shape shifter, for sure. i have never come across any demons in human form

I know... wait there was Mrs. Dark! she was a demon shape shifter right!?

I think ( referring to the main question) that the downworlders had a club there, but it soon came over run with mundanes so it became a human club, you know what I mean.... I could be completely wrong but still.... :)

Tallulah wrote: "I think ( referring to the main question) that the downworlders had a club there, but it soon came over run with mundanes so it became a human club, you know what I mean.... I could be completely w..."

yeh that could be right actually.

a human club with demons...

Rania wrote: "a human club with demons..."

freaky!

Christian wrote: "So, I was thinking about what somebody had earlier posted with regards to the dress Isabelle was wearing the first night Clary met them, and I noticed something. Can't believe I didn't see it befor..."

Yeah I realised that once I read the name in TID. I don't think it's a coincidence. I think we'll be told the reason in one of the last books in TMI or the last in TID.

๑ஜ๑ Jαѕмιиє ๑ஜ๑ wrote: "Christian wrote: "So, I was thinking about what somebody had earlier posted with regards to the dress Isabelle was wearing the first night Clary met them, and I noticed something. Can't believe I d..."

I'm totally with you. From some of the teaser quotes I have seen for City of Lost Souls, I think there may be an overarching story that connects TMI and TID. Something that connects Tessa and Clary. If you remember, the Seelie Queen mentioned something about Jocelyn not telling everything to Clary at the end of COG. I think that there is a lot more going on and we just don't know about it, but will find out when COLS comes out. Can't wait for May!

I think so to Christian. Jocelyn is hiding something. the story she told clary shes not telling all of it. there is so much more to it. have you guys read the long story jocelyn told? were she sees the angel and jace as a baby? i read it.

i dont trust jocelyn.

Rania wrote: "Why would simon and clary be at the pandemonium club in the first place!?"

There was I reason I remember reading... I can't remember it though. I think it said in COB.

Aycal Herondale wrote: "Rania wrote: "Why would simon and clary be at the pandemonium club in the first place!?"

hmm good question. i think simon dragged clary there. but i am not sure. i never thought about it. rania yo..."

I don't think so. Remember Simon always hated that club? It was Clary that wanted to go.

Christian wrote: "I'm totally with you. From some of the teaser quotes I have seen for City of Lost Souls, I think there may be an overarching story that connects TMI and TID. Something that connects Tessa and Clary. If you..."

Hmm yeah. I agree. Y'know I haven't read COFA yet (I'm kinda dreading it.. people say its not good & Jace does something shocking) but now I'm interested to solve this Pandemonium Club thing.. I think I'll read it once I finish 3 books I'm already reading. That way when COLS comes out, I can read it right away :P

๑ஜ๑ Jαѕмιиє ๑ஜ๑ wrote: "Rania wrote: "Why would simon and clary be at the pandemonium club in the first place!?"

There was I reason I remember reading... I can't remember it though. I think it said in COB."

clary joined and dragged simon with her. why tho...?

Idk.. Jocelyn said Clary might've been drawn to it cuz of all the downworlders & Shadow hunters that were there, even though she didn't know she was a shadow hunter.. But who knows if that's the real reason.

Christian wrote: "๑ஜ๑ Jαѕмιиє ๑ஜ๑ wrote: "Christian wrote: "So, I was thinking about what somebody had earlier posted with regards to the dress Isabelle was wearing the first night Clary met them, and I noticed some..."

oh i hadn't though of that. i'm with rania on this one too; i don't trust jocelyn

shes not a bad person she just knows more then shes telling. like Magnus.

Yeah I agree Rania

Rania wrote: "shes not a bad person she just knows more then shes telling. like Magnus."

yeh. thats true

Tell us your secrets Magnus bane!

we want to know everything >:)

or do we...? lol

No! His secrets might scar you for life!

They probably would xP

Still want to know them :)

I would rather know and be scared then be wondering for the rest of my life haha :)

well u knw wat they say. a shadowhunter has a scared life. so yea i want to knw.

Lol yeah I agree, I'd still wanna know

We will though.
Eventually

yes we will! :)

Or else! This is another reason to start that angry mob of fans! lmao :)

First we need to find out where she lives

Oh stalkers!! Jk

Or we could find her during one of her tuers for COLS and then start an Gary mob!

YES! i like the way you think lol

:)

no i have to know everything! i can't wait any longer, so when it is finally time to find out, i want my wait to be worthwhile.

btw i agree on the gary mob thing. can i join?

Not sure if anyone said this yet but on cassie faq page she talks about it and says that it doesn't really have anything to do woth the plot. But yeah when i first saw it i freaked out and thought the same thing!