Fair Game discussion

What do you think the Princes actions and proclamation of a having a 'Sovereign Nation that answers to no one' at the end of the book will mean in coming books?

Will it not be important because of Charles only dealing with werewolves?

Will it be important in Mercy's world or could this possibly mean an upcoming off shoot series or trilogy or maybe a novella?

I'm hoping for the best. For the ending of this book to correlate with the next Mercy book. Though I would not be a realist without acknowledging the problems that this will cause in the time line. Not many people read the alpha and omega series (not as much as Mercy anyways); there is going to be a lot of back story involved in the next Mercy book for it to work out. That is going to be disappointing and take up valuable new story time. Oh well, I will stick with hoping for the best.

I think Patricia Briggs is an excellent planner. She did not show how the wolves "came out" in the Mercy Thompson series, maybe coz it played such an important part in the Alpha and Omega. Considering that, I am gonna give her the benefit of the doubt.

This is gonna be important in Mercy's series. Mercy's walking stick was made by Lugh, who I think was this very Prince. So even tho Coyote now has the stick, there is definitely LOTS planned for the future and a bigger picture that's bound to be an awesome read :)

Arushi wrote: "I think Patricia Briggs is an excellent planner. She did not show how the wolves "came out" in the Mercy Thompson series, maybe coz it played such an important part in the Alpha and Omega. Consider..."

Ohhhh I never thought of the walkingstick being created by the same prince... clever

Charlotte wrote: "I'm hoping for the best. For the ending of this book to correlate with the next Mercy book. Though I would not be a realist without acknowledging the problems that this will cause in the time line...."

Patty needed to sync the timelines for both series - Frost Burned is going to pick up straight after Fair Game and it might even go back to Boston as the fallout over the ending is definitely going to affect Mercy and co. I don't think there will be any issues for those who didn't follow the A&O series because the announcement of the fae separating themselves from the Human world can be easily recapped.

I'm happy that Mercy and Alpha&Omega are finally on the same time line. Although I like A&O better than Mercy series (probably because I've started from A&O and have a soft spot for Charles and Anna) I really would like to read a book with all the characters from both series. I like Mercy but Anna is my favorite and I would like to read about the interaction between those two very different female characters :)

Margo wrote: "I'm happy that Mercy and Alpha&Omega are finally on the same time line. Although I like A&O better than Mercy series (probably because I've started from A&O and have a soft spot for Charles and Ann..."

I think that for the most part (generalizations are, of course, not always true) whoever read A&O first likes it more, and whoever read Mercy first likes that more. But Mercy has an advantage since it came out way before A&O.
Plus I guess by the time A&O came out PB had a reputation as an excellent UF author and so a lot of PNR fans might have taken some time to check out A&O.

Anyhow, I also think Mercy and Anna are completely different and it would be awesome to see them work on something together. I mean, they'd be a force of nature. God help anyone in their path. The poor soul won't even know what happened. lol

I know Mercy considers calling Anna in one of the books (Silver Borne) and they seem to have a decent relationship tho Mercy does not truly get what an Omega is. But then, most ppl don't.

Arushi wrote: "Anyhow, I also think Mercy and Anna are completely different and it would be awesome to see them work on something together. I mean, they'd be a force of nature. God help anyone in their path. The poor soul won't even know what happened. lol "

I don't think that calling Mercy and Anna "Force of nature" even begins to cover it :D

Margo wrote: I don't think that calling Mercy and Anna "Force of nature" even begins to cover it :D

LOL! true. We need new adjectives :)

Can you imagine the pained expressions both Adam and Charles will be wearing when these 2 go off to 'save the day'? Samuel will encourage them, and help them get into more trouble, and probably get yelled at by Adam, Charles and Bran.

I think we can have old/new great series if PB will do that (oh God I hope she will!)
I think when girls will be saving the world the husbands will have aneurysm :D

Margo wrote: "I think we can have old/new great series if PB will do that (oh God I hope she will!)
I think when girls will be saving the world the husbands will have aneurysm :D"

Hahaha.. oh yeah!!
Poor guys. No one can even say that they try to hold their wives back. They know better.. but they do worry. Even Bran worries, which is kinda sweet, especially coz he acts like he's above mortal things like worrying for his kids.

Actually as much as I don't like Bran (because I really don't) that part of him is admirable. Specially when it comes to Mercy I think she's his favorite. But Bran is a mix character. I don't know if his a good guy or bad, maybe a mix of both but I really can't find it in me to like him ;/
On the other hand husbands are great! I love Adam and Charles they are the real alphas but Adams seems more to earth kind of guy than Charles. Those two together would also be a grate combo :)

I have never thought of Bran in terms of like or dislike. To me, Bran is Bran, the rock around whom the werewolf world is balanced.
There are times when I wondered just how much of a cold hearted bastard he was, but then it shows through that he truly loves his family. And yeah, Mercy is probably his favorite. He chose her above Samuel, and he's very protective of her, tho most ppl (wolves included) don't (stupidly enough) realize that.

I think it also helps that Adam is younger, and has a teenage daughter. You just have to be more down to earth to deal with Jesse. But Adam is more of a believer in the "That which does not kill us, makes us stronger" compared to Charles. Charles does that for Anna, but he has to force himself. Adam does it coz he knows Mercy will kick his ass otherwise. (its not the only reason, but you know what I mean?)

Yup I know exactly what you mean but remember that Mercy and Adam know each other much longer than Anna and Charles an they were... friends... neighbors... associates... or whatever they were to each other before the whole mating thing happened to them. In their case it was a complicated process when Anna and Charles skipped that all together and actually the were mated before the knew nothing about each other. So maybe that's why Charles has so difficult time to lea Anna do what she needs to do and like you said Adam is younger (much younger) than Charles and has a daughter so he has no choice but to keep up with normal and real world. Plus Adam lives in a city and interacts with normal people not just werewolves all the time.

Now about Samuel, well Sam is "the glass is half empty" kind of guy but I think is also the most lovable character. He is depressed all the time the spite the fact that he's well loved by his father, brother and even Mercy, maybe not in a way he would like but he has a moral support of many people and still he thinks of death more often than not, but maybe now it will change thanks to that fea he reunited with (hopefully because it was starting to get on my nerves).

Thats actually really fair. How many years of dating did it take before Mercy married Adam? Or even actually accepted the mating?
And while it was a few months before Charles and Anna got married, they mated like instantly. Yeah the dynamics were different, and since they're different people, its working, but it shows that they really have not been together for all that long. (well not until the last book, when the timeline caught up, and their relationship still feels new)

Charles and Anna understand each other, but Adam and Mercy know each other more. But I guess comparing their relationships is a scary business. If there was a couple reversal, VERY HYPOTHETICALLY, Charles would have gone crazy dealing with Mercy even as a roommate. She's too chaotic. Of course, any wolf would love to have an Omega around, but Adam would probably only think of protecting Anna.

Yeah.. I have a morbid sense of humor, so I was amused when he was wondering just how badly Mercy was gonna yell at him for trying to go off that bridge. But the best was when she says that if he tries such stupid things, she might help him along.
He does have moral support, but its sometimes easy to see why he's grown so tired of life. Still, no wonder Bran sent him to Mercy. He needed to be smacked on the head, and she was willing to oblige.
I think he has changed. He was willing to prank mercy at her wedding. Aurelia (I think that's the fae's name) seems to have given him a reason to live, plus, she is not gonna die on him. Not easily anyways.

Oh damn... what'll be the repucussions of this fae retreating from the 'human world' on Sam's relationship???

Arushi wrote: "Oh damn... what'll be the repucussions of this fae retreating from the 'human world' on Sam's relationship??? "

I wonder about it myself. But however it ends Sam will have a difficult time with it. It will all depends how important of a fae Aurelia(?) is and if the Grey Lords order her to stay put or go with them. Either way Sam's screwed :)

And OMG Mercy and Charles??? Never, ever gonna happen! Not even in different reality! I don't know who would walked out first? Okay probably Mercy since I don't think Charles is capable of such a thing but still that certainly would be interesting to read (for example in a dream or rather nightmare :D) and laugh because there is no way those two would be capable to communicate with each other (Charles - man of few word, Mercy - a woman who causes chaos wherever she goes) :D

I know she's important, but she just might be strong enough to keep visiting Sam, or even stay outside since she's not 'out'.
But does this mean Zee will leave? God! He's actually 'out' as a fae.

Hahaha.. even in my wildest imagination I could only take them as far as roommates. It would be funny tho. Even in the current world, imagine them having to stay together for a while. Maybe coz Charles is on a case or something? Or heck, he and Anna come to visit Adam and Mercy? Even with Anna as a buffer, it'll be pretty funny :) and fairly chaotic.

That is something to look forward to - two alpha males living under the same roof ( 3 if you count Sam), a skinwalker coyote who brings chaos and an omega wolf who is supposed to kip everything under control. Hot and cold all year round :D

We forgot Jesse, and the usual visitors are a vampire, more wolves and the Coyote. Not to mention one next door teenager.
Oh boy!

the end of the world for sure :D:D:D

I have to admit I was more than a little stunned by the ending of Fair Game when the fae retreated to their reservations. I immediately wondered what this meant for Z and Sam's fae girlfriend. I can hardly wait to see what PB does with all this interesting potential for storylines. I also love the ideas mentioned for Mercy and A and O to have a crossover book--fabulous!

Jeanie wrote: "I have to admit I was more than a little stunned by the ending of Fair Game when the fae retreated to their reservations. I immediately wondered what this meant for Z and Sam's fae girlfriend. I ..."

Yep! Also I wonder if the "half-fae" like Thad, Zee's son, and that bookshop owner (forgot his name, but the one who's sorta Sam's girlfriend's grandson) will also leave or will they stay.

At the end of the book it just says that all the fae vanished. It does not specify if Lugh's daughter vanishes or not. I mean she probably does. After all, he would never leave her to deal with the fallout of his actions, but what does that mean for all the other 'kids'?

YOu can add your own idea for the cross over book. Its probably not gonna happen, but we can definitely amuse ourselves :) Poor Adam and Charles.

Oh, I think it should be poor Sam. Think about it if there is a cross over than Sam is going to want to keep his girlfriend and it probably the story would be focused on him add to it his brother who is VERY alpha male, Adam alpha of the pack, Mercy who does what she wants and Anna who will probably try to navigate between boys and make things work which with Sam who is also alpha and his feelings for his girlfriend and the need to keep her with him would not be easy.

After thinking about it I really don't know who would be more screwed with cross over. Maybe Adam because this would all happen on his territory. But whoever is the most screwed it still would be fun for us to read :D

Margo wrote: "Oh, I think it should be poor Sam. Think about it if there is a cross over than Sam is going to want to keep his girlfriend and it probably the story would be focused on him add to it his brother w..."

most definitely... super fun :]

:D

I think it was stated that Lugh's daughter didn't have any fae at all, making her kidnapping and torture all the more tragic. Also, didn't they say that the reservation in Adam's territory wasn't the only one? So there would be others across the US if not around the world. I guess the real question is what is the fae's ultimate goal? Do they want their seperate nation only or is it their staging ground for a broader take-over? And, yeah, I think Sam is the most screwed by the retreat of the fae, on an individual basis at least. Lugh seemed to indicate he was willing to treat with the US government... or was it just with the weres? So much potential!

Lugh's daughter was more 'human' than fae. She does not have any magic, but she still has the right genes.

That reservation is not the only one. I believe it was once described as being the same as Native American reservations that are also spread all over the country.

It is not said much about the fae in other countries but it is implied that the only surviving fae are in the USA coz 'cold iron' drove them out of their native Europe.

I dunno abt the ultimate goal, but I think the main thing was, they allowed someone who had murdered and tortured to go free just because his victims of choice were fae or rather not human. So since the human justice was not applying to them, the fae decided not to bow to the laws either. The only land they have is the reservations and so they took it, and threw humans out of it and hid it with their magic. Also, we know from the Mercy books that "faerie" has come back to them. So even if it seems geographically impossible, probably all the reservations are connected. No kidding they've kept it a secret.

I don't think they'll stage a take over. It'd be a bloodbath. And they have already taken their freedom and said that they are hostile.

Even I feel for Sam. It took him so long to find her, and now he might lose her coz of politics. I think it'll help that he's Bran's son, and pretty old himself, but no clue just what he might be able to pull of to keep his girlfriend. Also, just how strong she is and what are the Gray Lords plans for her will also matter a lot.

Arushi wrote: "Even I feel for Sam. It took him so long to find her, and now he might lose her coz of politics. I think it'll help that he's Bran's son, and pretty old himself, but no clue just what he might be able to pull of to keep his girlfriend. Also, just how strong she is and what are the Gray Lords plans for her will also matter a lot. "

As far as I can remember Sam's new/old girlfriend wasn't strong at all. She was scared of everything but she as a fae was very strong (magic) so I really don't think that Grey Lords let her stay behind, she is too valuable to them. Maybe because Sam is Bran's son they can have a "political" marriage and everything will sort out but who knows what PB is going to present in her next book but I'm totally for cross over :)

a 'political' marriage. That sounds plausible. Or even Ari (I finally remembered Sam's nickname for her) as an ambassador of the fae? Tho since she seems kinda timid that might not work. But then again, she's not that timid, only scared of the wolves and she's working on that.

You're right.. she does not have clout or political power, but she does have magic. So they might not let her stay behind, but they might also not want to piss of Bran, and the sure way to do so is to mess with his sons.

But PB does not believe in Love conquering all, immediately. It takes time and effort. So... who knows.

I also wonder how Coyote having Lugh's walking stick is going to figure in it. And the other "Native" American deities. If deity is the right word.

PB does not bring ppl in just for the hell of it. They all have serve many purposes.

I think the ending of fair game - has set the stage for another book in the future...I do not think there will be a BIG link between Mercy and A/O.
The black horses and the white horse with the fae prince was cool...it was an element of surprise I did not expect, a bit of a cliff hanger
This does make me wonder if Bram knew that the fae was a "gray lord prince" ... as he mentioned when he was on the phone that he knew him and that the fae owed him a favor

do you guys think the next mercy book will also be multiple POV??

im hoping Coyote will be popping up in the next Mercy book. im also worried about Zee, being that he's öut" and what about uncle Mike?? maybe they can still come out from the reservation?? they just dont have to follow the rules... so maybe the fae will start eating ppl again. O.o Mercy will no doubt get herself caught up in that mess, lol.

Well I'm pretty sure that Coyote from now on will be present in Mercy's books as her somewhat father or whatever the hell he is.

I actually forgot about Uncle Mike... damn you're right what will happen to who is Pub? One think for sure - it's gonna be one hell of a book :). So much potential :D

I think Coyote will be there too. And I am good with that. He's cool :) I loved it when he said Mercy was leaking when she started crying on seeing him alive. I dunno abt multiple POV tho. That would depend on the story way too much to speculate abt it.

Even I had forgotten abt Uncle Mike. Damn!

I don't think they'll start eating ppl again. I mean right now.. its "two hostile nations" but stuff like that will lead to "two nations at war"

I wonder of they can come out of the reservations. I mean right now, the US army can't even see the reservations even if they pass right above them. So.. the fae are safe inside, but if they are not inside, isn't it like being in enemy territory?

Glamour can hide them, but to what purpose? Unless they're spies, but then, being caught would be really really bad. Maybe someone would think Mercy is fae? That would lead to so much trouble!

Also all the fae we know are quite powerful. So.. they could come out of the reservation if they wanted to, but why would they chance something like that just for the hell of it? In the end, as the Gray Lords could order them around, Lugh as the Prince of the Gray Lords, can definitely order them around.

Arushi wrote: "Margo wrote: I don't think that calling Mercy and Anna "Force of nature" even begins to cover it :D

LOL! true. We need new adjectives :)

Can you imagine the pained expressions both Adam and Cha..."

Arushi wrote: "Margo wrote: "I'm happy that Mercy and Alpha&Omega are finally on the same time line. Although I like A&O better than Mercy series (probably because I've started from A&O and have a soft spot for C..."

I would love to see Anna and Mercy together. They would definately give the guys a run for there money.

I think Patty ws trying to bring those two together over the last couple of books in each series. Small mention of one or the other in each series to possibly bring them together once the time was right. And with the ending of A&O bringing in parts that's Mercy already was drawn into it seems the time is right.

Paris wrote: "I think the ending of fair game - has set the stage for another book in the future...I do not think there will be a BIG link between Mercy and A/O.
The black horses and the white horse with the fae..."

Arushi wrote: "Jeanie wrote: "I have to admit I was more than a little stunned by the ending of Fair Game when the fae retreated to their reservations. I immediately wondered what this meant for Z and Sam's
fae

I don't agree. I think PB set the stage for a crossover. Because what affect the far wll affect both books.

I trust PB. Whatever she writes is OK with me. This is a good development and will have repercussions for everyone in both series. Yay!

@Kristin - You're right. Anna was mentioned in the Mercy books and Mercy is in the A&O. So.. the stage is set. I worry for Adam and Charles if these two get together. But it will be fun. Can hardly wait for the next book.

@Jacey - Agree with you there. Definitely trust PB. I just wonder how much of a cross over will be there between the series'.

Margo wrote: "I'm happy that Mercy and Alpha&Omega are finally on the same time line. Although I like A&O better than Mercy series (probably because I've started from A&O and have a soft spot for Charles and Ann..."

I think Mercy and Anna would get along famously.

I think it would be great to see the Mercy books and Alpha&Omega books to come together it would be great to see how the charters will work together or if not plus I made the mistake of reading the Alpha & Omega books first and have about two books left in Mercy books I get lost sometimes and have to go back sometime the time lines dont match up like in this book Adam and Mercy are married but if Alpha & Omege books are set up before that how can this be?

If I have this complete wrong I dont mind been told so :-)

At the end of Fair Game, there was a sneak peek from the next Mercy book. Mercy mentioned that she didn't have any help in the garage anymore since Zee had been swept away with all the rest of the fae to the reservaion. It didn't mention Sam's girlfriend though.

Kristy wrote: "At the end of Fair Game, there was a sneak peek from the next Mercy book. Mercy mentioned that she didn't have any help in the garage anymore since Zee had been swept away with all the rest of the ..."

That's what I hate about not having the patience of waiting for the paperback. No extras in the hardbacks. I don't remember Sam's girlfriend. Was she mentioned in Silver Borne?

There is a snippet (actually two now) of Frost Burned (the next Mercy Book) out on Pat Briggs website. In them Mercy is with Sam's girlfriend. So I guess she does not go to the reservation. She is also a pretty powerful fey so she might not have.

Also, there will not be any more A&O books for now. The contract was for only three books :(

PB says that for now she might write about other people in the world rather than Charles and Anna. She might go back to them eventually but there are no plans for now.

Sam's girlfriend is the fae who created the Silver Born.

Kristy wrote: "Sam's girlfriend is the fae who created the Silver Born."

Yep, I just remembered her name: Arianna. Ari for short.
I do remember the scene where she gives out all of Samuel's names though and I really really liked her then :)

Wow, I guess I need to go back and read that one. It was one of my least favorites. Maybe it's because I napped most of it?

LOL, you hated Silver Borne? I am still not too sure how interested I was by the plot, but that book had some really good moments. I also adored Warren in it.